Lost - The Full Series Thread

[Anne Summers]

Does this help?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXVfaqGd14 (not embedded for spoiler reasons).

Helps me understand the Japanese but not a lot else about wtf is going on. One interesting line was "When does Jacob get here?" - interesting because if I remember the episode rightly, they know he is dead by this point don't they?

[Capwn]

I really can't get enough of Lost these days. I just sit there loving every second.

Me too. I'm constantly worrying about how long is left. If I could physically survive while waiting for a season to finish I reckon I could easily watch it in one or two sittings. Though as some say, the fun is in talking about it inbetween.

[CGMF]

haha great

[Blu3Flame]

Will there be a mid season break this time, or are they planning on an uninterrupted run?

[Comrade]

Like how the hatch still got built?

How does Dr Chang joining the Others at some point explain that? And where's the mystery anyway? After whatever happened with the bomb happened, obviously there was no nuclear explosion (in that universe, at least) and the Losties were gone, so they could carry on building the hatch uninterrupted.

[Goose]

Will there be a mid season break this time, or are they planning on an uninterrupted run?

Uninterrupted!

[squirtle]

Are you still not buying into the Christian is Smokey theory? As far as I can see, there is nothing to disprove that ... smokey is either appearing in the form of Christian, or controlling him ... and the same for Claire, as well. As I was reminded in an earlier post, Claire could easily have died when the mercenaries from the freighter attacked the village - she hasn't been seen alive since...

We saw Claire a fair bit after the Mercs attacked the village. She was rescued by Sawyer, still alive and brought back to the hut with Ben, Locke and Jurley in it. She then went off with Swayer and Miles before disappearing with her "Dad".

However, now I come to think of it, didn't Sawyer put her in the back bedroom when he got into the hut and when she came out she was all groggy and a bit messed up like Sayid was when he woke up... Hmmm... May need to watch that bit again tonight.

[whizzo]

OK, but still I don't possibly see how saying it's a nice character based episode will in any way spoil the episode. Why would you come in this thread having not seen the episode anyways?

You dont need to see how it would spoil it for some.

The reason to come here before seeing the ep is mainly if there is an issue with torrents nzb's etc but as the thread is spoiler free until 8 pm the day after it airs there shouldnt be any issue.

having said that I do try not to come here before Ive seen the ep because even after 6 years of this people still get it wrong.

[Mr Cochese]

It was good to see Claire again and I enjoyed the hints at the greater things going on - the temple guy saying that Jin was one of them, and should not be killed. The mention that Sawyer must return, unharmed. It feels like they themselves have been through all this before and they know that to get the outcome they need (have always had?), everything must be in place. Either that or somehow they know the names of the people who will in some way defeat the smoke monster/man in black.

Remember when they opened Hurley's guitar case, and then found the piece of paper in the ankh? After that, the temple guy asked each of the main characters their names. I reckon the piece of paper was a list of names from Jacob.

[incapable hulk]

Im not struck on season 6 so far. It reminds me of season 3, with the main characters being held against thier will and only recieving very cryptic answers from thier captors.

Then again thats a running trend throughout the shows run, but I was hoping this series would move more quickly.

I really hope it picks up soon

[GwiDan]

The piece of paper was the list that was compiled in season 1 I think.

[mercenarri]

Im not struck on season 6 so far. It reminds me of season 3, with the main characters being held against thier will and only recieving very cryptic answers from thier captors.

Then again thats a running trend throughout the shows run, but I was hoping this series would move more quickly.

I really hope it picks up soon

Agree.

Regarding the alternate time line in conjunction with the Island time line, remember time on the Island runs much slower (or was it faster?) than off Island. So it would make sense if Claire gives birth around the same "time" as she did on Island, I think. Gah.

Where do we think this alternate time is leading up to? This is my biggest problem with this season, and my fear that it will ultimately be pointless.

I also think being claimed by Smokey is nothing more than being a necessary factor in him "going home". I think so far these people are Claire, Christian, Rousseau and potentially Sayid (Jacob has a list, surely the evil guy does too). I think Christian isn't an apparition but his real claimed self, it would explain why his body was missing from the coffin.

[Dom B]

Agree.

Regarding the alternate time line in conjunction with the Island time line, remember time on the Island runs much slower (or was it faster?) than off Island. So it would make sense if Claire gives birth around the same "time" as she did on Island, I think. Gah.

Where do we think this alternate time is leading up to? This is my biggest problem with this season, and my fear that it will ultimately be pointless.

I also think being claimed by Smokey is nothing more than being a necessary factor in him "going home". I think so far these people are Claire, Christian, Rousseau and potentially Sayid (Jacob has a list, surely the evil guy does too). I think Christian isn't an apparition but his real claimed self, it would explain why his body was missing from the coffin.

What? Christian is definitely an apparition, surely? That's why he never makes physical contact with anyone or anything - remember when Original Locke fell down the well and broke his leg? Christian somehow appeared there at the bottom of the well and when Locke asked him to help him up, he said he couldn't.

I'm now trying to recall whether Evil Locke has touched anyone... he basically talked Ben into doing everything for him, including killing Jacob and killing the chap from the Ajira flight who wouldn't let them take a boat.

All this makes me wonder why Richard Alpert didn't bother to test Evil Locke before letting him in the statue to see Jacob.

Sayid is different - I think he's claimed like Rouseau's french friends. Not sure the same applies to Rouseau herself or the recently re-appeared Claire - have I forgotten something here?

[mercenarri]

Why aren't the Smokey apparitions allowed to touch anyone?

[whizzo]

Apart from beating Richard up?

[makkuwata]

The thought occurred to me that maybe Christian wasn't an apparition, and I got all excited. Then I remembered about him being on the freighter with Michael.

[Dom B]

Apart from beating Richard up?

Maybe things changed once Jacob was dead? Maybe that was why he really wanted to kill Jacob, and went to extraordinary lengths (without touching anyone) to do so. Christian has always behaved like an apparition - never touches anyone and can jump around through time and space at will. Not so certain about Evil Locke though... did he touch anyone before Jacob was dead?

[Pob]

Regarding the alternate time line in conjunction with the Island time line, remember time on the Island runs much slower (or was it faster?) than off Island. So it would make sense if Claire gives birth around the same "time" as she did on Island, I think. Gah.

This isn't true is it? When the Oceanic survivors returned to civilization, they'd been away for 100 days hadn't they?

There is some time dilation coming to and from the island, however, as proved during season 4 when the people on the chopper experienced less time than people on the island, and by Faraday's test rocket.

[makkuwata]

Maybe things changed once Jacob was dead? Maybe that was why he really wanted to kill Jacob, and went to extraordinary lengths (without touching anyone) to do so. Christian has always behaved like an apparition - never touches anyone and can jump around through time and space at will. Not so certain about Evil Locke though... did he touch anyone before Jacob was dead?

Offhand, I remember him carrying the boar into Richard's camp. He was also carrying the compass that he gave to Richard to give back to Locke. I'd have to go back and check if he actually touched anyone but it'd be a weird/messy law of the show for him to be able to do those things and not interact with people.

Edit: He shook Richard's hand after setting down the boar.

[Dom B]

Offhand, I remember him carrying the boar into Richard's camp. He was also carrying the compass that he gave to Richard to give back to Locke. I'd have to go back and check if he actually touched anyone but it'd be a weird/messy law of the show for him to be able to do those things and not interact with people.

Edit: He shook Richard's hand after setting down the boar.

Wasn't all that when he was alive, before he left the island to be killed by Ben?

[makkuwata]

Wasn't all that when he was alive, before he left the island to be killed by Ben?

Nope. Episode before the finale last season. Smokey, Ben and Sun went to Richard's camp. Smokey, Ben and Richard went into the jungle and Smokey told Richard to give Locke the compass and tell him he needed to die, setting the plan in motion or whatever. Then they returned to camp and set off to see Jacob.

[Dom B]

Nope. Episode before the finale last season. Smokey, Ben and Sun went to Richard's camp. Smokey, Ben and Richard went into the jungle and Smokey told Richard to give Locke the compass and tell him he needed to die, setting the plan in motion or whatever. Then they returned to camp and set off to see Jacob.

Oh. I thought Richard already had the compass from when Locke gave it to him in the 50's, Smokey just told him to give it back to Locke (who then took it back to the 50's and gave it to Richard...). Smokey never carried the compass. Can't remember for sure though.

[makkuwata]

Oh. I thought Richard already had the compass from when Locke gave it to him in the 50's, Smokey just told him to give it back to Locke (who then took it back to the 50's and gave it to Richard...). Smokey never carried the compass. Can't remember for sure though.

Ah, yeah you're right of course. My brain is scrambled thinking about different timelines and realities! Guess I was skimming through the episode a little too quickly.

Still though, he could interact with people before Jacob died. Just had another look and he also gave Sun a reassuring pat when telling her he was going to find Jin.

[Dom B]

Yeah and I've just remembered Smokey appearing as Alex and beating the shit out of Ben, so I'll shut up now.

[makkuwata]

Now that you've got me thinking about the compass, I wonder if it'll somehow bleed into the reality we know, from the weird sideways one. I don't have any thoughts beyond that. Just weird that it exists in this infinite loop without an origin, and now they've introduced this new element into the show...

[CGMF]

haha great

[the_debaser]

Claire looked really pretty. I've missed her.

[Goose]

Filler you say?

[joeplus]

Filler you say?

What a twat. I wouldn't bitch at the guy on twitter, but if you've got a huge fanbase, don't respond to disappointed criticism by being a condescending prick. As if Lost is fucking Das Boot or something.

[Tom*]

(@Damon)