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At the risk of sounding like a mental, can no spoilers include people saying whether it was awesome or rubbish? Ok, thanks. :wub:

Good question, I'm sure this was ok in the Lost thread last season. Personally even that is just too much for me, yep, I'm a tool I know.

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The rips normally go up early morning here, I just set uTorrent up with a Lost RSS feed and by the time I'm up (7am), it has downloaded. I guess it would be even sooner for newsgroups.

Help me Obi Wan:

Right, where should I point my uTorrent RSS feed to? What do I have to do to get it to dl it automatically?

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Anne Summers

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Massively excited about this and furiously re-watching season 5 in an effort to fill in the wait. I don't remember being this excited about a TV show since, ooh, early X-Files.

I just watched 3x5 This Place is Death and am about to watch 3x6 316. Really noticing a lot of clever little pointers about the way things were heading - such as when Charlotte is lying, dying from time-travel sickness, in the jungle, how she is able to tell Locke and Sawyer, etc, to "look for the well..." while they are searching for the Orchid. Obviously, this is smoky/Jacobs nemesis, speaking through Charlotte - as he is seemingly able to do with lots of people who have died on the island. Charlotte is near to death, so smoky is able to take some sort of control of her - particularly as Charlotte seems to be dying of some strange illness that is very much related to the strangeness of the island (and smoky himself).

It's fun realising that a lot of events, that we had probably all assumed were part of Jacob's plan, were really the enemy's doing.

One thing that I can't quite remember/ work out - the whole "because you left" thing. Am I right to think that, it was Locke's disobeying of Smoky/Christian's instructions to turn the donkey wheel (by allowing Ben to do it instead) somehow led to the Oceanic 6 being able to escape? Would they not have escaped if Locke had turned the wheel himself? Christian/smoky certainly seemed pissed off that they had escaped, when he comes to Locke in the Orchid and tells him again to move the island again. So is bringing the Oceanic 6 back part of Smoky's plan? We know (or think we know) that bringing Locke back was the key part of the scheme, but was it vital to smoky/Jacob's enemy, that they ALL came back?

On to 316 ...

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Help me Obi Wan:

Right, where should I point my uTorrent RSS feed to? What do I have to do to get it to dl it automatically?

http://ezrss.it/search/index.php?show_name...ue&mode=rss should work as a feed, they've changed the site around a bit so I'll have to report back on that. Failing that, there's a tutorial here: link. It looks like they do it a slightly different way, I would just use a Lost feed (hopefully as per the link above), then basically each week just change the filter to download a specific episode and away you go. If you get stuck, let me know, I've not set mine up for this series yet, if needs be I'll knock up a quick guide.

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http://ezrss.it/search/index.php?show_name...ue&mode=rss should work as a feed, they've changed the site around a bit so I'll have to report back on that. Failing that, there's a tutorial here: link. It looks like they do it a slightly different way, I would just use a Lost feed (hopefully as per the link above), then basically each week just change the filter to download a specific episode and away you go. If you get stuck, let me know, I've not set mine up for this series yet, if needs be I'll knock up a quick guide.

Cheers oboe: think I've set it up ok, but not a massive stress if not-saves some time as I dl the HD and then convert to watch on the 360.

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Anne Summers

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Ended up watching season 5 up till the end of Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham last night. Really interested to find out how the whole of Locke's story pans out. Is everything he had been fed about him being "special" all just smoke and mirrors to get him to play along with Jacob's enemy's plan? But if so, then why would it be so important to smoky that it is locke, specifically, that leaves the island to bring back the others?

Whose side are widmore and eloise on?

why the hell does Ben change his mind and kill locke as soon as he mentions Eloise's name?

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It's fun realising that a lot of events, that we had probably all assumed were part of Jacob's plan, were really the enemy's doing.

One thing that I can't quite remember/ work out - the whole "because you left" thing. Am I right to think that, it was Locke's disobeying of Smoky/Christian's instructions to turn the donkey wheel (by allowing Ben to do it instead) somehow led to the Oceanic 6 being able to escape? Would they not have escaped if Locke had turned the wheel himself? Christian/smoky certainly seemed pissed off that they had escaped, when he comes to Locke in the Orchid and tells him again to move the island again. So is bringing the Oceanic 6 back part of Smoky's plan? We know (or think we know) that bringing Locke back was the key part of the scheme, but was it vital to smoky/Jacob's enemy, that they ALL came back?

On to 316 ...

Isn't it Jacob's plan that they return to the island? Jacob specifically tells Hurley he ought to go back, and that scene where you see him talking to Ilana might be something to do with getting Sayid on the plane.

The evil dude just wants Locke to turn the wheel, so he gets ejected from the island and is able to die. I think. Then, I guess it must have been in his plan to have the body brought back so that he can inhabit Locke's body, and thus become leader of the Others (something which had been set up since Locke stormed into the Other's camp in the 1950s).

Ended up watching season 5 up till the end of Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham last night. Really interested to find out how the whole of Locke's story pans out. Is everything he had been fed about him being "special" all just smoke and mirrors to get him to play along with Jacob's enemy's plan? But if so, then why would it be so important to smoky that it is locke, specifically, that leaves the island to bring back the others?

Locke is just a pawn throughout the whole series. Just as he was before he crashed on the island. Jacob's nemesis makes him think he's special (perhaps he fixes his legs and shit), then makes use of the time travelling to convince the Others (specifically, Richard) that he's destined to be the leader of the Others. I dunno why Jacob doesn't put a stop to this :wub:

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Locke is just a pawn throughout the whole series. Just as he was before he crashed on the island. Jacob's nemesis makes him think he's special (perhaps he fixes his legs and shit), then makes use of the time travelling to convince the Others (specifically, Richard) that he's destined to be the leader of the Others. I dunno why Jacob doesn't put a stop to this :wub:

Which doesn't explain this...

800px-LockeDrawingSmokey.jpg

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Ended up watching season 5 up till the end of Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham last night. Really interested to find out how the whole of Locke's story pans out. Is everything he had been fed about him being "special" all just smoke and mirrors to get him to play along with Jacob's enemy's plan? But if so, then why would it be so important to smoky that it is locke, specifically, that leaves the island to bring back the others?

Whose side are widmore and eloise on?

why the hell does Ben change his mind and kill locke as soon as he mentions Eloise's name?

Locke has to leave the Island to die and then be brought back so that Ole Smokey can use his body and manipulate Ben and Richard into getting him into Jacob's statue. He was also the only person that Ben was jealous of, jealous enough to make him kill Jacob. I think bringing the others back was just the only way Smokey could make sure Locke's body came back. And yes, everything about him being special was all set in place by Smokey acting as Locke and the information he gave Richard Alpert and Widmore in the past.

Widmore and Eloise? Not sure.

Why does Ben change his mind? Ben wanted to get back to the island but he didn't have a clue how to do it. When Locke mentioned Eloise, he realised that was a way back, and so he no longer needed Locke, hence why he could kill him (again. Remember it wasn't the first time Ben had tried to kill Locke).

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Which doesn't explain this...

800px-LockeDrawingSmokey.jpg

I know it's Lost and everything has a meaning, but I used to draw shit like that when I was a kid. I think that picture is a red herring.

The stranger thing with pictures that will probably never be explained is what happened to those photos on the wall when Mile went into that kids bedroom when he first entered the show.

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Anne Summers

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Locke has to leave the Island to die and then be brought back so that Ole Smokey can use his body and manipulate Ben and Richard into getting him into Jacob's statue. He was also the only person that Ben was jealous of, jealous enough to make him kill Jacob. I think bringing the others back was just the only way Smokey could make sure Locke's body came back. And yes, everything about him being special was all set in place by Smokey acting as Locke and the information he gave Richard Alpert and Widmore in the past.

But ... when Locke gave Richard Alpert and Widmore the information in the past - he was still alive - and therefore, probably not under the control of smokey?

It was also weird how, at the end of the Jeremy Benson episode, when 316 crashes, Locke acts as if he remembers dying, but is genuinely confused about where he is and how he has got back to the island. If this is smoky inhabiting a dead John Locke's body, why is he confused? It's too late in the show for them to be doing stuff like that without it being significant.

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But ... when Locke gave Richard Alpert and Widmore the information in the past - he was still alive - and therefore, probably not under the control of smokey?

It was also weird how, at the end of the Jeremy Benson episode, when 316 crashes, Locke acts as if he remembers dying, but is genuinely confused about where he is and how he has got back to the island. If this is smoky inhabiting a dead John Locke's body, why is he confused? It's too late in the show for them to be doing stuff like that without it being significant.

Locke tells Alpert and Widmore the information in the past - and gives him the compass - because Alpert in the future tells him to. And who leads Alpert to the real Locke who is lying there with a bullet wound in his leg? Smokey Locke.

As for the other stuff, Smokey is putting it on for the other people around him, to convince them that he really is Locke. Watch the rest of the episodes from the Bentham one again, knowing that Locke in the present is Smokey and you will see how he is manipulating everything to get Ben to kill Jacob.

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Anne Summers

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Locke tells Alpert and Widmore the information in the past - and gives him the compass - because Alpert in the future tells him to. And who leads Alpert to the real Locke who is lying there with a bullet wound in his leg? Smokey Locke.

As for the other stuff, Smokey is putting it on for the other people around him, to convince them that he really is Locke. Watch the rest of the episodes from the Bentham one again, knowing that Locke in the present is Smokey and you will see how he is manipulating everything to get Ben to kill Jacob.

Funnily enough, that's my plan for tonight.

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It's going to be torturous, but I have to save this until Thursday. That said, I have a morning off on Friday so I can just get a bit toasted and totty, then revel in geeking out over everyone freaking out in the thread for a while. I love Lost, it really brings out the saddo in me.

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