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IcEBuRN

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I still find it a bit puzzling that Lost was supposed to be an 8 episode mini series. I wonder what that script looked like...

Hmm. well, similar to how a 2 hour movie, is generally the plot of a whole 16 hour series compressed down. They still work.

You don't miss what you don't know...

EDIT: though i'd love to see what their plan was for it, and also the "graphic novel"

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Yeah, but WHO was shooting at the Losties on the boat when they were flashing through time a few episodes back?

Hard one to answer that as we need to know when in time it happens. The camp's trashed, Ajira bottled water is in the boat... It's clearly something yet to happen in the timeline from 2007 onwards.

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Hard one to answer that as we need to know when in time it happens. The camp's trashed, Ajira bottled water is in the boat... It's clearly something yet to happen in the timeline from 2007 onwards.

Maybe it is Ilana and the rest of the Ajira peeps.

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Maybe it is Ilana and the rest of the Ajira peeps.

Well, that's the obvious answer, isn't it. But maybe, as was posited before, it's the losties themselves shooting at themselves. Maybe it's Jack and some of the others trying to kill their past selves in an effort to stop everything happening the way it did.

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Well, that's the obvious answer, isn't it.

Yes I guess so.

I forgot we were discussing Lost so this...

But maybe, as was posited before, it's the losties themselves shooting at themselves. Maybe it's Jack and some of the others trying to kill their past selves in an effort to stop everything happening the way it did.

or something insane like this is probably more likely.

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Aye. It would be amusing if the incident unhinges the other losties in time like before, and the whole of season six is just Jack's wacky adventures trying to prevent them from ever landing on the island, but all he does is just make things happen.

Every episode woul just end on a close up of Jack going, "FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-!"

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Aye. It would be amusing if the incident unhinges the other losties in time like before, and the whole of season six is just Jack's wacky adventures trying to prevent them from ever landing on the island, but all he does is just make things happen.

So are we pretty set on "what happened happened" being the rules in the Lost universe? I guess Daniel's death and "you knew" to Eloise after she shot him confirms this? So Jack, whatever he does is doomed to failure? They always land on the island no matter what?

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I think so. What happened, happened. There's no other way it would work. As Spongeman pointed above, if they stop the plane crashing, then they never land on the island to go back in time to stop the plane crashing, so the plane would then crash ad infinitum... Although, thinking back, remember the first time jumping episode with Desmond and what Eloise said about course correction... It is possible to alter time, but it will find a way back to its initial course at some point. Like with Charlie's death. But then, Charlie had to stay alive to recognise the Good Vibrations tune and put that in the underwater computer place... Hmmm...

So yes, I'm sticking with whatever happened, happened.

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Aye. It would be amusing if the incident unhinges the other losties in time like before, and the whole of season six is just Jack's wacky adventures trying to prevent them from ever landing on the island, but all he does is just make things happen.

Every episode woul just end on a close up of Jack going, "FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-!"

That would be an awesome spin-off series, I'd watch that :lol:

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Did we ever get to know who Henry Gale really was, and how he found the island by travelling by a hot airballoon?

Nope. Qutie a lot of the earlier stuff (50s - 70s) seems patchy still. How did Charles Widmore's group find the island, how did Dharma get started (Hanso from the Black rock being another immortal maybe). Exactly why it's "complicated" between Eloise and Charles and why the latter couldn't have sent his goon squad of mercs round to see Eloise to get the details of the next flight over the island, why he hand picked a science team who all had prior connectioins to the island...

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I think so. What happened, happened. There's no other way it would work. As Spongeman pointed above, if they stop the plane crashing, then they never land on the island to go back in time to stop the plane crashing, so the plane would then crash ad infinitum... Although, thinking back, remember the first time jumping episode with Desmond and what Eloise said about course correction... It is possible to alter time, but it will find a way back to its initial course at some point. Like with Charlie's death. But then, Charlie had to stay alive to recognise the Good Vibrations tune and put that in the underwater computer place... Hmmm...

So yes, I'm sticking with whatever happened, happened.

I think the Desmond factor and Eloise's obsession with everyone following their path casts enough doubt onto the 'whatever happeend, happened' theory to allow them to do anything at the start of the next season. Desmond can make minor changes, which means that bigger changes could theoretically be made, leading to some kind of alternate timeline.

Saying that, I don't think Jack and co changed anything during the incident.

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I'm trying to understand, I really am.

But in (possibly) causing the incident, we're now saying that the Losties are going to crash land as we saw in Season 1 and these events happen forever, in some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy loop type thing? And in that case surely they can change time, otherwise they're in a loop forever?

So what we are watching now is this event happening for the first time as it were? Otherwise, how do we account for them having been children and having lives before the crash? If that makes sense. It doesn't does it?

Christ this is hurting me head; it's more complicated that Total Recall.

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I'm trying to understand, I really am.

But in (possibly) causing the incident, we're now saying that the Losties are going to crash land as we saw in Season 1 and these events happen forever, in some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy loop type thing? And in that case surely they can change time, otherwise they're in a loop forever?

So what we are watching now is this event happening for the first time as it were? Otherwise, how do we account for them having been children and having lives before the crash? If that makes sense. It doesn't does it?

Christ this is hurting me head; it's more complicated that Total Recall.

You're Hurley aren't you? :(

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Present day Richard said he watched all the 70s Losties die, this leads to to think that they won't do what we all think they'll do (having the nuke transport Jack and co to the present day), and instead what will happen is we will see the Jack and co die in the 70s after the nuke, then Desmond (presumably) will somehow alter the timeline and prevent them being killed. Oh, I don't fucking know!

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Richard said he saw them die, but he was presumably nowhere near the Swan and the bomb when it went off. So could he be referring to a later occasion, or alternate timeline, or something? Hmmm....

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I'm trying to understand, I really am.

But in (possibly) causing the incident, we're now saying that the Losties are going to crash land as we saw in Season 1 and these events happen forever, in some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy loop type thing? And in that case surely they can change time, otherwise they're in a loop forever?

So what we are watching now is this event happening for the first time as it were? Otherwise, how do we account for them having been children and having lives before the crash? If that makes sense. It doesn't does it?

Christ this is hurting me head; it's more complicated that Total Recall.

They're not in a loop forever.

Easiest way to describe it as follows.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (this line is time for most people - a straight line)

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			----								-------------------

The second two lines are, say, Jack's lifetime. The first line is his life up until he jumps back to 1977. He spends a little bit of time there before jumping back to 2007.

Does that make sense. Time, the top line, stays the same, but Jack's life, his place in time, just doesn't follow the same linear path. However, nothing he can do can alter the path of the main time line as it all already happened.

Does that make sense?

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dr_lha

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In that I'm fat?

Or that I'm the constant?

It's the other one, isn't it? :(

I still don't get it.

You don't get the concept of time travel in Lost! I'm referencing the whole Hurley/Miles conversation a few episodes ago.

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