Lost - The Full Series Thread

[angel]

Why did jacob taunt ben then accept a knifing. Makes no damn sense.

[Pob]

So, just to confirm, was the apparition we saw in the cabin (the one who said "help me" to Locke) Smokey posing as Jacob? He was pretty fucking scary.

[rubberducker]

the BLACK ROCK is crucial to this whole thing i think. it being in the opening, and that we know so little about it are things that must surely lead to the solution of the LOST puzzle.

are the multiple connections between the losties past lives and the island, because they are all descendants of the black rock crew - and have a destiny to live out there?

when ben meets richard for the first time as a child he is dressed in black rock era clothes and has long hair. was that richard or smokey?

From the opening chat its sounds like this situation has occured many times before, only now its different (the loophole) - which as someone pointed out must be that only the leader (still ben) can kill jacob.

[roskelld]

So, just to confirm, was the apparition we saw in the cabin (the one who said "help me" to Locke) Smokey posing as Jacob? He was pretty fucking scary.

That dude?

Well they did say he's not been at the cabin for a long time, or quite some time.

[connerfitzgerald]

Interesting that Widmore said he couldn't kill Ben (or was it vice versa?), when put into the perspective of the Jacob/Easu conflict.

[Kramer]

Can't quote cos I'm on iphone but

Jacob visited and touched them all at the defining moment, or just after, in each of their lives. Locke's fall, Sawyer's father's death, Jin being accepted into Korean high society, Jack's first operation and Kate's first time of being a bad'un.

Except Hurley. He was visited after he'd already been on the Island.

[hoot]

Didn't Hurley come across the Dharma camper van in an earlier series which had a skeleton inside wearing the same clothes that Sayid was disguised in this last episode?

[Anne Summers]

I'm sure there's a massive clue in Jacob's line on the beach where he said something along the lines of "There's only one ending, everything else is just events" or something that meant that.

He's saying they can change things in the past as much as they want ... so Jack, Sawyer etc will still be on the island after the explosion of the atom bomb... but they were never going to magically appear at LA X just because they changed things so the plane wouldn't crash - the plane will still crash, otherwise they couldn't have been sent back to the past to stop it happening in the first place. They are stuck in that timeline now, until they find another way of time travelling.

It's basically like the time-travel duelling in Bill and Ted.

[cassidy]

I'm sure there's a massive clue in Jacob's line on the beach where he said something along the lines of "There's only one ending, everything else is just events" or something that meant that.

"everything else is just progress" IIRC

[squirtle]

Didn't Hurley come across the Dharma camper van in an earlier series which had a skeleton inside wearing the same clothes that Sayid was disguised in this last episode?

That was Ben's dad.

[Rayn]

There was a detail that caught my interest when Jacob was waiting for Locke to be killed by his father. He was reading a book, and the cover of the book was in focus for a really long time. I just Wikied the book, and the summary was kinda interesting, and might be connected to what happened between Ben, Jacob and Evil Locke:

In the story, human weaknesses are exposed and important moral questions are explored through everyday situations. Critics view the story as a prime example of O’Connor’s literary skills and moral views. In the story an arrogant young man takes a fateful bus trip with his bigoted mother. The mother doesn’t like to ride the recently racially integrated bus alone. Their relationship shows tensions when a black mother and son enters the bus. Through irony, the blindness and ignorance of the characters are exposed. The title Everything That Rises Must Converge refers to an underlying religious message central to her work: aiming to expose the sinful nature of humanity that often goes unrecognized in the modern, secular world

[squirtle]

By the way, the guitar that Jacob gives Hurley. It was Charlie's I presume.

[Venice Cull]

listen again, there is no actual explosive noise.

[squirtle]

I see your picture and raise you:

There isn't. We've just watched it again. There is a musical blast, but no explosion.

My other half just said that she thinks they've gone through time again - the white flash was the signifier of that. That never occurred to me, but the thought has possibilities.

[dr_lha]

There isn't. We've just watched it again. There is a musical blast, but no explosion.

My other half just said that she thinks they've gone through time again - the white flash was the signifier of that. That never occurred to me, but the thought has possibilities.

Or else, a flash of white indicates a nuclear explosion, which you'd see before you heard any "bang". Lets face it, the bomb exploded. Arguing against that is an exercise in denial.

[squirtle]

Or else, a flash of white indicates a nuclear explosion, which you'd see before you heard any "bang". Lets face it, the bomb exploded. Arguing against that is an exercise in denial.

Like I said earlier, 95% of me agrees with you. But 5% remains to be convinced. I just don't see where they can go if the bomb went off. It would simply do too much damage, take out half the cast etc etc. It either went off and changed everything which seems to go against everything they have built up this season, or it hasn't gone off as it never did in the past. I can't see another way out of it.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

My take is that the bomb went off and catapulted them forward to their 'real' time.

[Venice Cull]

"A musical blast"

[squirtle]

Oh, shush. There is no BOOOM! just the musical crescendo.

[roskelld]

My other half just said that she thinks they've gone through time again - the white flash was the signifier of that. That never occurred to me, but the thought has possibilities.

I thought that as the scene was happening. I was half expecting a Quantum Leap style jump from the place. I think it was the audio that was triggering that, there was something in the sound effects that sounded like the time leap noise.

[Straps]

Someone on a fan site discovered that if you play the final noise backwards and apply some filters, it says:

"Let it go, Squirtle."

[Kramer]

The white Lost title is the most important thing, people.

Also, I think we're gonna be seeing Jack's bleedin' eye again first thing, next season.

[toonfool]

It was a hydrogen crescendo.

[Venice Cull]

Oh, shush. There is no BOOOM! just the musical crescendo.

Well, I'm convinced you've not got the version everyone else has. So much so I've recorded the audio and uploaded.

http://rapidshare.com/files/233362854/boooom.mp3.html

Listen to it... is this the audio from what you watched?

[Pob]

Damn, I thought that was going to a hilarious joke.

[Kramer]

Well, I'm convinced you've not got the version everyone else has. So much so I've recorded the audio and uploaded.

http://rapidshare.com/files/233362854/boooom.mp3.html

Listen to it... is this the audio from what you watched?

That is quite some interent-arguing winning.

[Venice Cull]

Damn, I thought that was going to a hilarious joke.

Actually, I was tempted to add the Eastender's ending drum beats in.

[hereticboy]

Emmerdale cymbal-roll.

[Venice Cull]

Aw, sod it...

http://rapidshare.com/files/233381519/boomenders.wav.html

[Elliott]

If Hurley is in any way central to the big picture of Lost after six seasons, I will never commit myself to a series like this again. I'll cry.