Lost - The Full Series Thread

[Broker]

I can't get the sneak peeks to work, wanna PM me with what it is?

[Blu3Flame]

I hope when the show is finally over they do a few specials explaining everything

[dr_lha]

Just a word of warning - The sneak peaks for tonight's episode on AICN give away a pretty cool revelation. You're going to want to avoid it like the motherfucking plague.

So what was it (spoiler it if necessary)? I just watched the episode, and wonder what revelation you're referring to?

[Capwn]

Me too!

Damn, was not wanting it to end at all. I think it's the only show where I'm praying for extra minutes.

CGI SUB SCENE!

[Goose]

So what was it (spoiler it if necessary)? I just watched the episode, and wonder what revelation you're referring to?

The part were Alpert revealed to Sun that he watched them all die

Even if it amounts to nothing it seemed a pretty cool moment spoilt.

[letsbook]

Can anyone confirm that this was a double or a single episode?

[zxcvbnm]

Perhaps talking rubbish here (perhaps?!) but I wonder if him going to the island wasn't the only thing she was trying to get him to do? What if she kept on pushing him not only to go to the island but also to become the scientist/physicist because she'd need him to eventually find the island to allow Jack et al to return?

The way I see it she knew that there was nothing SHE could do to change her killing her son - it will always happen. But it just so happens her son is a frickin' genius so she's been pushing him since she was a child (along with funding from his dad) so maybe HE could learn how to change time and stop it from happening? She knew he'd have to be on the island to find the answer, so she made sure he was there even though it was the place of his death.

[JohnC]

Can anyone confirm that this was a double or a single episode?

Single. Next week is the season finale double episode.

I loved Locke baffling both Richard and Ben.

[Capwn]

I loved Locke baffling both Richard and Ben.

but IS he?? There was that one moment Richard and Ben had together where they admit he is becoming a problem. Doesn't this suggest that they are still the leaders with a hidden agenda?

[Pob]

Exciting ep! Classic Lost pre-finale build-up.

When Locke says to Ben at the end "I'm going to kill Jacob", do you reckon he was just bullshitting him? Locke is wise to Ben now, and can see that he's trying to stir up trouble.

The compass bit was cool - interesting that Richard said it had gone rusty - does that mean that when he gave it back to Locke, it was sill rusty, and thus got even more rusty in the intervening decades?? Or did it clean itself up when Locke jumped back to the fifties?

And imagine spending years stuck down the hatch with Radzinski - I'm starting to wonder who actually blew his head off.

Oh, and "okay, I'm from the future. Sorry dude."

[Goose]

The way I see it she knew that there was nothing SHE could do to change her killing her son - it will always happen. But it just so happens her son is a frickin' genius so she's been pushing him since she was a child (along with funding from his dad) so maybe HE could learn how to change time and stop it from happening? She knew he'd have to be on the island to find the answer, so she made sure he was there even though it was the place of his death.

This exactly! If she knew he was going to die anyway, why not have him solve/achieve/do something that will help the bigger picture. Perhaps, had he not been the ninja genius he was, he would have still ended up on the island - but by being that ninja genius that he was pushed to be, he was able to help pinpoint the location of the island for Jack, Kate etc to get back and perhaps do something else.

[Pob]

I wonder if we'll ever find out what Daniel did during his three years at Ann Arbor? It's got to be important.

I also wonder if we'll see [very very slight spoiler for something that doesn't happen in the latest ep]

the two new characters introduced on the Arija Airlines crash again this season, or whether they are being set up as a part of a third faction for the final season? We still haven't seen who was shooting at Sawyer and Juliet when they were on the canoes.

[mercenarri]

What caused the pregnant women to stop carrying to full term?

I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but does radiation have anything to do with stopping fertility? Maybe setting off the H-bomb is what stops women from giving birth.

[dr_lha]

I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but does radiation have anything to do with stopping fertility? Maybe setting off the H-bomb is what stops women from giving birth.

That wouldn't be that much of a mystery though would it? Any doctor worth his salt should be able to figure out a case of radiation poisoning.

[zxcvbnm]

This exactly! If she knew he was going to die anyway, why not have him solve/achieve/do something that will help the bigger picture. Perhaps, had he not been the ninja genius he was, he would have still ended up on the island - but by being that ninja genius that he was pushed to be, he was able to help pinpoint the location of the island for Jack, Kate etc to get back and perhaps do something else.

And this exactly!

Now we know that she knows she needs Jack's help, so Faraday had to locate the island to get jack back, to blow up the bomb to stop him being there in the first place, stopping Faraday being there, stopping her killing him....phew.

And a good set up episode this one - nothing major happening, but enough to make the finale well worth looking forward too. Can Jacob be killed?!?!

[MechE]

No, I like Jack - it's just that in terms of 'fave status' he's competing with Sawyer, Ben, Locke and Desmond (plus Faraday), so he's on to a loser.

My favourite character is Frank Lapidus, although I'm still holding out hope that Mr Eko will return and usurp his top stop.

[connerfitzgerald]

I love the bit where Hurley is being tested about if he was from the future, unable to answer the questions he has to admit that he is from the future.

Faraday really is dead How sad.

[Goose]

Can anyone explain how the perpetual loop works?

Locke told Alpert to tell Injured Locke that he had to die to get back to the island. But Locke only knew he had to die because Alpert told him he had to. But Alpert only told injured Locke he had to die because Locke told him too.....? It's like the compass thing all over again.

I'm pretty convinced now that we're no longer looking at the John Locke we know, but surely something inhabiting his body. Does Locke want Jacob dead or is it actually the creature inside/became Locke who wants him dead?

Either way, Locke fucking owned this week.

And what Jeebus posted makes such perfect sense that it must be correct. She did all that she did so that Jack would one day return and perhaps save her from killing her own son.

[zxcvbnm]

And what Jeebus posted makes such perfect sense that it must be correct. She did all that she did so that Jack would one day return and perhaps save her from killing her own son.

Yeah, but it's such a mind fuck - she needs people from the future to come to the past to prevent their future selves (-3 years) crashing on the island, therefore stopping them from existing in the past, stopping her from killing her son.....

And I agree - I don't think that's Locke. I think Smokie is playing tricks - maybe Smokie is controlled by Jacob and he's had enough?

[hereticboy]

And I agree - I don't think that's Locke. I think Smokie is playing tricks - maybe Smokie is controlled by Jacob and he's had enough?

I think there's been enough hints, subtle and not so subtle, for us to assume that Locke is smokey. Richard's "there's something different about you" line, combined with Locke disappearing whenever the smoke monster appears, definitely feel like a clumsy way of saying it without explicitly revealing it. I like your last point. I'd like it if he controlled smokey and was having a fuck about.

[Super Lurker]

I think there's been enough hints, subtle and not so subtle, for us to assume that Locke is smokey. Richard's "there's something different about you" line, combined with Locke disappearing whenever the smoke monster appears, definitely feel like a clumsy way of saying it without explicitly revealing it. I like your last point. I'd like it if he controlled smokey and was having a fuck about.

I think Jacob is smokey's enemy - hence Locke wanting to go kill him/it, judging by the picture in the temple.

[hereticboy]

I think Jacob is smokey's enemy - hence Locke wanting to go kill him/it, judging by the picture in the temple.

Are we looking at a Godzilla-style showdown?

[Goose]

Are we looking at a Godzilla-style showdown?

Make It SO!

[murray]

Brilliant episode, can't wait for the two-hour finale!

[Tony]

So I was thinking that they wouldn't dare end Lost with the plane landing safely - and in a way none of it ever really happened?

Obviously, I know that it would mean that it did happen and that they changed the future but I can't help but get the feeling it's going to end in a way where they'll all have no-recollection of it ever happening. I was really enjoying Lost until that kind of dawned on me as a possibility about ten minutes ago.

Please reassure me.

[Goose]

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ended as it had begun, with Jack opening his eyes on the beach....btw, did we ever figure out why his body was so far from the plane??

We're not looking at a time jumped Jack in that first ep are we? That the real Jack was killed on the plane but this one jumped back or forward to help everyone?

I'm going to bed.

[Anne Summers]

So we have a dead (or undead) Locke being controlled by smokey on a mission to assassinate Jacob?

Or if not... then we have a resurrected Locke on a mission to kill Jacob. If this is it, then its a bit weird because there aren't any gaps left in John's story, are there? We've seen everything that happens to him, but we have no idea where this "purpose" has come from ... it must have been something that happened to him while he was dead??

But the fact they keep repeating Ben's "dead is dead" line in all the recaps makes me think the chances are pretty slim that he is alive.

Arg. I really don't have a clue where they are going, I keep thinking I've put it all together finally, but then I realise that that, whatever theory I come up with, something totally opposite is just as likely to be true.

[Geo]

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ended as it had begun, with Jack opening his eyes on the beach....btw, did we ever figure out why his body was so far from the plane??

We're not looking at a time jumped Jack in that first ep are we? That the real Jack was killed on the plane but this one jumped back or forward to help everyone?

I'm going to bed.

Maybe Jack died on the plane crash but was resurrected Locke style?

[JohnC]

I think Jacob is smokey's enemy - hence Locke wanting to go kill him/it, judging by the picture in the temple.

You've gone and made me even more excited now.

[Kramer]

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ended as it had begun, with Jack opening his eyes on the beach....btw, did we ever figure out why his body was so far from the plane??

We've already had that this season, they can't do Jack-waking-up-in-bamboo a third time, surely.

That was a MEGA episode.

From small detail like the Hurley/Chang chat, the awkward Kate/Sawyer/Juliet scene, the absolutely shit CGI sub(!) to Miles watching baby Miles/Chang and Locke setting up Richard/Locke to the Locke/Richard/Ben/gang and Jack/Sayid/Richard/Eloise set ups for the finale.

Awesome.

Maybe the ash around Jacob's cabin is similar to the sonic fence - to keep smokey out. (OR, it's to keep Jacob in, as he's a prisoner of the Hostiles hence the 'Help me' to Locke, originally).

Can't wait for next Thursday - however, we then have the slight problem of waiting for nearly a year for the next season!