Lost - The Full Series Thread

[John0]

Episode 17 was amazing!

Episode 18 was shit.

How many times can they end an episode on a cliffhanger and not explain it? I seriously want to stop watching this now but I know I won't, I feel like it doesn't deserve to be watched anymore. I'd love someone to make a list of all the things that haven't been explained, but wouldn't wish the task on anyone.

[Popo]

Not moving the story on!? Locke stops pusing the button! (since you see him on his back looking at the map in the computer room). Jack finally goes to see 'zeke'. Henry has said that 'zeke' is a nobody compared to 'him'. Hurley officially has a stalker.

Loads happening. Love it.

You just know the episode will end with Jack actually meeting the bearded guy and the timer counting down, with the entire episode comprised of them lounging about and doing nothing...

[futureshock]

Episode 17 was amazing!

Episode 18 was shit.

How many times can they end an episode on a cliffhanger and not explain it? I seriously want to stop watching this now but I know I won't, I feel like it doesn't deserve to be watched anymore. I'd love someone to make a list of all the things that haven't been explained, but wouldn't wish the task on anyone.

I love Lost because it doesn't explain things. I love that the plot is so scatered that it's almost impossible to get closure on any given topic. I love the way it'll excite me and the girlfriend, making us shout "oh my god!" at the TV over and over, and yet it casually forgets about that important point the following week, only to bring it up 18 months later. You never know what to expect (other than even more stuff that's unexpected.)

Lost goes up and down and round and round and just keeps on giving - if it carries on like this for another twenty years I'll still love it.

You want answers? Watch a different show, because what you want is the total opposite of what Lost is all about.

[DarhkFox]

some people are saying Lost (and 24) are bordering on "jumping the shark".

I do agree somewhat about Lost - Hurly was just throwing the food away at one point (even i was surprised when he did that) and Sawyer did the same because his cookie broke. Have they not forgetton they are on a desert island?

Also - i thought Jack had "won" all the medical stuff back?

The bit with libby turning out to be a mentalist. I think perhaps thats streteched things a little too far. Not only were they in the same hospital - she must have known hurly, although he didnt know her. Was she really a stalker?!

[Straps]

I love Lost because it doesn't explain things. I love that the plot is so scatered that it's almost impossible to get closure on any given topic. I love the way it'll excite me and the girlfriend, making us shout "oh my god!" at the TV over and over, and yet it casually forgets about that important point the following week, only to bring it up 18 months later. You never know what to expect (other than even more stuff that's unexpected.)

Lost goes up and down and round and round and just keeps on giving - if it carries on like this for another twenty years I'll still love it.

You want answers? Watch a different show, because what you want is the total opposite of what Lost is all about.

WORD.

Just summed up the exact reasons I heart Lost so much. When I heard there was going to be a second season, I was a bit annoyed - the idea of season cliffhangers seems fucking cheap to me, but that's what Lost is all about. When they 'wrap it up' there'll be loads of unanswered questions, but that's no bad thing.

[mdn2]

Am I the only person who noticed that Libby looked really fucked off after snogging Hurley? She looked like she wanted to throw him off the cliff herself.

Great episode. Probably the strongest 'character' based ep this season.

[Goose]

I used to post a set of mini-rules each week with the synopsis.

For the current ep, we should at least keep discussion in spoiler tags until 8-9pm on the next day to give people chance to watch it. Furthermore it does give people chance to enter the thread and see if version.X is out of sync or has the end missing.

Posting the link for the preview is ok but often it then generates spoiler discussion (naturally) so I tend not to post links to them for that reason. Best to keep them out of this thread where possible.

As others have said, if someone is really so hard against spoilers for the current ep then you really are best staying out of the thread until you've seen the episode.

[Droo]

Just to go back to someone's point before in asking if 'it was all a dream', in the last shots of the previous ep, we see libby watching hurley put his arm around nothing. Thus showing us that libby is watching Hurleys delusion and not a part of it.

As for libby, Im not entirely sure what her motives are. I dont have the older episodes on file anymore to go back, but does she have anything to do with the short haired tailie disappearing when they are carrying sawyer?

As for the show itself, there is something mildly predictable about it. When your watching you can almost see whats coming because of the first 10 minutes. I knew Dave was going to be fake, I knew Libby was going to be in the mental home (albeit, I thought as a nurse!), you know sawyer will lose, jack will win and locke will be a part of something unseen but infinately intriguing.

[Reynard]

As others have said, if someone is really so hard against spoilers for the current ep then you really are best staying out of the thread until you've seen the episode.

It's a fair enough point to make - it's just that my point was that we've managed to get by fine for the whole series. Last Thursday was the only instance we've had of people openly discussing the new ep.

[angel]

some people are saying Lost (and 24) are bordering on "jumping the shark".

I do agree somewhat about Lost - Hurly was just throwing the food away at one point (even i was surprised when he did that) and Sawyer did the same because his cookie broke. Have they not forgetton they are on a desert island?

Also - i thought Jack had "won" all the medical stuff back?

The bit with libby turning out to be a mentalist. I think perhaps thats streteched things a little too far. Not only were they in the same hospital - she must have known hurly, although he didnt know her. Was she really a stalker?!

I think the throwing food away is a deliberate point, that the losties are getting too comfortable on the island. Too complacent. Like Ana Lucia says, none of them are scared enough.

Am I the only person who noticed that Libby looked really fucked off after snogging Hurley? She looked like she wanted to throw him off the cliff herself.

Great episode. Probably the strongest 'character' based ep this season.

Um, that was the entire point of the ending mate..did you miss the next scene?

[mdn2]

Um, that was the entire point of the ending mate..did you miss the next scene?

No, I saw that. So she knew Hurley in the mental institute and she doesn't want him to know that. So why does she look like she's mightly pissed off?

Poor Hurley.

[Straps]

No, I saw that. So she knew Hurley in the mental institute and she doesn't want him to know that. So why does she look like she's mightly pissed off?

Poor Hurley.

She's after his money, but is starting to realise she might have to suck his fat wrinkly chod a few times before she gets near any of it.

[Monkeyboy]

I liked that episode. It was much, much better than Hurley's last dismal flashback story. I sort of went off Lost about 4 episodes ago and stopped downloading. Then d/loaded 4 eps this weekend and feel totally back in the groove. Can't wait for the season finale now.

Quite a few of the characters -- not just Hurley -- seem as though the screws are coming loose and that life on the island is finally tipping them over the edge. Things are getting more confrontational.

[Tom*]

I hope libby doesn't turn out evil or something, I don't think I'd like that at all. She helped out Claire before. There could be some other explanation for her being in the mental hospital and on the plane too. Loads of other survivors met before the crash.

Also, her wanting his money would be an odd plotline, seeing as all his money is at home, not on the island, and there's no way they are leaving any time soon so it wouldn't be that exciting. She wouldn't get at the money for months/years.

I hope it was either just a coincidence, or something else to do with the numbers.

[mdn2]

Yeah, I don't completely buy this 'Libby is in it for the money' thing either. I hope it turns out to be something else, probably involving nanobots.

[Mr Spew]

There is a trailer for Ep 19 around if anyone is interested...and the synopsis is on the ABC site.

Could set up a really good episode by the look of it:

S2 Ep19 Trailer

Looks like Jack & Kate go to find The Others to try and trade 'Henry'. I guess for Walt.

Preview spoiler:

Well it's a bit obvious they want Walt, since they ask for him in the preview video.

Episode 18:

Very good episode, funny, knew Dave was imaginary from the very start though, and could also tell that either him or Hurley were going to jump off the cliff, as the exact same effect was shown where something 'unreal' happens (look at the visual style comparing just before the cliff to Eko's smoke scene). The Henry interrogation was brilliant also. Can't wait for next week.

She's after his money, but is starting to realise she might have to suck his fat wrinkly chod a few times before she gets near any of it.

What? They're on a desert island, what would that help?

[John0]

I love Lost because it doesn't explain things. I love that the plot is so scatered that it's almost impossible to get closure on any given topic. I love the way it'll excite me and the girlfriend, making us shout "oh my god!" at the TV over and over, and yet it casually forgets about that important point the following week, only to bring it up 18 months later. You never know what to expect (other than even more stuff that's unexpected.)

Lost goes up and down and round and round and just keeps on giving - if it carries on like this for another twenty years I'll still love it.

You want answers? Watch a different show, because what you want is the total opposite of what Lost is all about.

Yeah, you're right. Problem is, I already know I should stop watching, but I won't, probably just in case they explain something.

I knew Dave was going to be fake, I knew Libby was going to be in the mental home (albeit, I thought as a nurse!), you know sawyer will lose, jack will win and locke will be a part of something unseen but infinately intriguing.

The Dave being fake thing was pretty bloody obvious! I couldn't believe they actually tried to surprise us with that. How many times has this been done in films/tv?... I didn't predict all the other stuff though.

On the Libby thing, I'm going to watch the end of ep 18 right now because I obviously missed the whole point...

Hmm, I'm not sure she looks pissed off after kissing him. Still not got a clue what's going on.

[tyler]

What? They're on a desert island, what would that help?

Or ARE they!?

...

Well I think the writers forget that fact sometimes.

[villenium]

Spew, I know you are on a one man mission to post something negative in response to every post on here but I hadn't actually watched the preview...I just read some conjecture on another forum.

[kamrantaz]

I don't want to start banging on about spoilers again but are they not even being used for next weeks preview anymore? That seems like perfect spoiler material.

Have a bit of courtesy please.

next weeks preview isnt really a spoiler, is it though? why the hell do they miss them out, its there to hype us up for next week, im sure the makers know best, not a bunch of pirating geekz on a forum?

some people are saying Lost (and 24) are bordering on "jumping the shark".

I do agree somewhat about Lost - Hurly was just throwing the food away at one point (even i was surprised when he did that) and Sawyer did the same because his cookie broke. Have they not forgetton they are on a desert island?

Also - i thought Jack had "won" all the medical stuff back?

The bit with libby turning out to be a mentalist. I think perhaps thats streteched things a little too far. Not only were they in the same hospital - she must have known hurly, although he didnt know her. Was she really a stalker?!

The libby bit makes sense. She looked spazzed out in the shots so wouldnt know whats going on, and not being nasty but if your a semi hot chick on desert island, you'd have to be loopy to go with Hurley. Even Zeke would come higher on the pecking order. Dave got that bit right

[Straps]

What? They're on a desert island, what would that help?

Like, for when they get rescued. Or something.

[angel]

Javi (senior writer) says that you dont need to understand quantum physics to understand lost, but it helps. Its a real island, its all about the magnetism deep inside the island. How the island is in a pocket which is only reachable by the rest of the world at certain rare times.

Or something anyway, search for the ultimate theory on tinternet.

[Mr Spew]

Spew, I know you are on a one man mission to post something negative in response to every post on here but I hadn't actually watched the preview...I just read some conjecture on another forum.

You posted a link to it and spoke as if you'd watched it - so I presumed you'd actually watched the trailer you posted a link to.

[angel]

New podcast everyone!

[angel]

and its worse than last week!

[angel]

Actually theres something that (for me) is completely brilliant and tucked away in it..

cue massive theorising..

They state that some people on the internet have got as close as they need to be to the 100% right theory behind lost...before shooting off on a crazy tangent. Now iv read most of these theories and the main points across them all:

quantum physics related japery,

the magnetic field on the isand,

the losties having had their memories of the plane crash implanted and waking up on a constructed 'set' of a crash

the 'others' being the team of workers behind the goings on, keeping up an illusion of being dirty island dwellers

the losties presense on the island being pre-engineered by dharma for years to fulfill specific roles on the island...so they would create a civilisation amongst themselves organically (bad people like sawyer, a doctor, a fisherman etc)

Im so pleased by that little statement that im content to just let it unfold now. The story arc will be the resolving of the number input, slow discovery of its implications, slow occasional contact with the others, the eventual recovery of walt, finding out what theyre doing with the children, finding out the master plan behind it all, finding out the reason the scientists are doing what theyre doing. breathe. questioning the morality behind such events...attempting to escape from the situation...some casualties and suprises along the way.

Then eventually a select few of the losties using their accumulated knowledge to thwart their use as pawns in the plan and escape. cue select survivors finding the islands escape facilities (boat, plane, whatever) and leaving. shot of the island in the background either exploding, or seeing the magnetic activity.

final scene: maybe a couple of survivors reading about a plane going missing while sitting in their home many years later and realising that 'they' are doing it again...

[hobo]

Actually theres something that (for me) is completely brilliant and tucked away in it..

cue massive theorising..

They state that some people on the internet have got as close as they need to be to the 100% right theory behind lost...before shooting off on a crazy tangent. Now iv read most of these theories and the main points across them all:

quantum physics related japery,

the magnetic field on the isand,

the losties having had their memories of the plane crash implanted and waking up on a constructed 'set' of a crash

the 'others' being the team of workers behind the goings on, keeping up an illusion of being dirty island dwellers

the losties presense on the island being pre-engineered by dharma for years to fulfill specific roles on the island...so they would create a civilisation amongst themselves organically (bad people like sawyer, a doctor, a fisherman etc)

Im so pleased by that little statement that im content to just let it unfold now. The story arc will be the resolving of the number input, slow discovery of its implications, slow occasional contact with the others, the eventual recovery of walt, finding out what theyre doing with the children, finding out the master plan behind it all, finding out the reason the scientists are doing what theyre doing. breathe. questioning the morality behind such events...attempting to escape from the situation...some casualties and suprises along the way.

Then eventually a select few of the losties using their accumulated knowledge to thwart their use as pawns in the plan and escape. cue select survivors finding the islands escape facilities (boat, plane, whatever) and leaving. shot of the island in the background either exploding, or seeing the magnetic activity.

final scene: maybe a couple of survivors reading about a plane going missing while sitting in their home many years later and realising that 'they' are doing it again...

Sweet! dont think ill bother watching any more now I know whats going on

[Atari]

They state that some people on the internet have got as close as they need to be to the 100% right theory behind lost...before shooting off on a crazy tangent.

The actual quote is:

"There are a lot of different theories out there, many of which incorporate some parts of what's actually going on, but then sort of spin off into crazyville".

Your paraphrase is a little misleading, I think.

[angel]

Ok its out of context, i missed out the other evidence assuming people had read it

over at the fuselage, javi (lost writer) admitted to a theorist that knowing quantum physics would help understand the theory. theres loads of other little titbits been mentioned there too. also in the podcasts they always act dumb, and only reveal things by pretending theyre posing questions. they say 'hmm well, i guess i would like to see what happens with the countdown' and that means we will find out this season.

Theyv done it on all the podcasts. explained all the major events by playing dumb and saying 'hmm, maybe this was the case'. (like the smoke monster, carlton said 'yeah id guess id kinda think it was reading ekos thoughts or something')... so we can take that as cast iron now.

so no theyre saying 'hmm yeah a lot of internet theories are hitting the mark and then going off into crazyville'. all the main theories are saying magnets, quotong the hanso foundation website (alvar hanso is 2 researchers of magnetism's names put together).

People are cracking it, but then adding "and the polar bears are created by walts imagination" at the end of it, which is the crazy bit.

[rmg]

The centre of the island = Infinite Improbability Drive.