Long AAA dev cycles make games already out of date when they chase trends... discuss!

[mushashi]

Well bad news then, Bungie love Service Games longtime. All their known future in development games are also Service Games.

[Kevvy Metal]

20 minutes ago, JPL said:

Apologies for keeping this off topic, but I really wish Bungie would move on from Destiny now. They lost me years ago and I’d much rather them go back to just making a solid shooter, go open world even, just leave the GaaS bullshit behind. It feels like they’re totally wasted.

Have you actually played Destiny 2? It has a free & very enjoyable campaign then a whole bunch of further ones on top of that.

It’s a whole series of games basically that are excellent, and you can really easy just not engage with the hamster wheel. 

[JPL]

Just now, Kevvy Metal said:

Have you actually played Destiny 2? It has a free enjoyable campaign than a whole bunch of further ones on top of that. It’s a whole series of games basically that are excellent, and you can really easy just not engage with the hamster wheel. 

Erm, of course I have. It’s just not a patch on their earlier stuff for me. The problem is they’ve been at this so long now, I just want them to do something new.

[Kevvy Metal]

Just now, JPL said:

Erm, of course I have. It’s just not a patch on their earlier stuff for me. The problem is they’ve been at this so long now, I just want them to do something new.

I literally would not know if you had played Destiny 2, hence the question. As Destiny is so heavily based on Halo Reach, I don’t really know where they would even go with something new.  

[JPL]

22 minutes ago, mushashi said:

Well bad news then, Bungie love Service Games longtime. All their known future in development games are also Service Games.

Oh, what’s on their future slate?

[Thor]

1 hour ago, JPL said:

Oh, what’s on their future slate?

Destiny 3. 🤣

[JPL]

4 minutes ago, Thor said:

Destiny 3. 🤣

Really? I thought that had been canned a long time ago.

[Thor]

3 minutes ago, JPL said:

Really? I thought that had been canned a long time ago.

I was taking the piss. No-one knows what they're working on next, but it's a good bet it'll be something akin to Destiny. 

[JPL]

Just now, Thor said:

I was taking the piss. No-one knows what they're working on next, but it's a good bet it'll be something akin to Destiny. 

What the fuck is mushashi on about then?! 😂

[Thor]

2 minutes ago, JPL said:

What the fuck is mushashi on about then?! 😂

Well, I meant akin to Destiny as in it'll be similar in terms of structure and will likely be another GaaS game with seasons, expansions etc. 

[Lying Cat]

2 hours ago, JPL said:

Erm, of course I have. It’s just not a patch on their earlier stuff for me.

 

I dunno. I reckon it's probably better than Pathways into Darkness, mechanically at least. Although having said that, interrogating dead Nazis with magic alien crystals isn't actually a gameplay loop I've seen since.

[JPL]

Just now, Thor said:

Well, I meant akin to Destiny as in it'll be similar in terms of structure and will likely be another GaaS game with seasons, expansions etc. 

Sorry, I meant mushashi said ‘all their known future games’, but you’re saying nobody knows what they are.

 

I don’t doubt it’ll be akin to Destiny as that was akin to Halo in some ways. I’m also not massively against a GaaS game, as long as they do something different to Destiny’s structure. I just think that formula is tired, so I’d like to see something new.

[Thor]

To my knowledge, they have nothing confirmed that we know about. 

[dreamylittledream]

I think all that’s confirmed is that they are working on at least one new IP (this was after the Netease investment prior to Sony buying them) and that Destiny will continue after The Final Shape.

 

As to what the new IP is, don’t think there are any details as to whether it will be a GAAS.

[Uncle Mike]

There's whatever happens to Destiny after Final Shape, which isn't announced at all, but it's 100% announced that Final Shape isn't the end of Destiny. And there's a new IP that's untitled and unannounced, but will definitely be a live service game. That's what Bungie wants to do now, these games that blend best-in-class action games with long-term persistent service games.

 

So JPL is probably shit out of luck on this front, I'm afraid. And Destiny, for all its myriad issues we all cry about, is a better game for its live service aspects and also an astonishingly good shooter.

[JPL]

2 minutes ago, Uncle Mike said:

There's whatever happens to Destiny after Final Shape, which isn't announced at all, but it's 100% announced that Final Shape isn't the end of Destiny. And there's a new IP that's untitled and unannounced, but will definitely be a live service game. That's what Bungie wants to do now, these games that blend best-in-class action games with long-term persistent service games.

 

So JPL is probably shit out of luck on this front, I'm afraid. And Destiny, for all its myriad issues we all cry about, is a better game for its live service aspects and also an astonishingly good shooter.

Oh yeah, no doubt I am. It was just my selfish ramblings wanting them to get back to the good old Bungie. That ceased to exist many years ago.

[Uncle Mike]

I dunno. They're still making a great, great shooter, with amazing guns, great places to shoot them, enticing enemies to pepper with those bullets and also cool space magic etc. I think if you liked the Bungie Halos, there's loads to enjoy in their current work.

[JPL]

13 minutes ago, Uncle Mike said:

I dunno. They're still making a great, great shooter, with amazing guns, great places to shoot them, enticing enemies to pepper with those bullets and also cool space magic etc. I think if you liked the Bungie Halos, there's loads to enjoy in their current work.

It’s just a personal thing, but I just don’t care for Destiny the way I did for Halo, or even Marathon before that.

 

Like I said, it’s just me being selfish wanting them the move on from Destiny. I’ll still be interested to see where they go next and hopefully it catches my imagination better.

[Thor]

The actual moment to moment shooting gameplay in Destiny 2 is the yardstick by which all FPS games should be measured. @JPL there's been some stuff in Destiny 2 this year that has been very reminiscent of the Bungie of old.

[JPL]

1 minute ago, Thor said:

The actual moment to moment shooting gameplay in Destiny 2 is the yardstick by which all FPS games should be measured. @JPL there's been some stuff in Destiny 2 this year that has been very reminiscent of the Bungie of old.

Maybe I should give it another look. I can’t remember the last expansion I played, but it was a while back now.

[mushashi]

2 hours ago, JPL said:

What the fuck is mushashi on about then?! 😂

 

Their job listings give enough clues as to what they are working on, and it ain't single player.

[mr twig]

13 hours ago, mushashi said:

 

Their job listings give enough clues as to what they are working on, and it ain't single player.

No no no, the job advert was for a multi platter server technician, not 'multiplayer'.

 

They're advertising for someone to work in the canteen.