Luther Fallen Sun

[Strafe]

The film from the hit tv show, following a short theatrical run it had hit Netflix as of today.

 

I’m only halfway through and it is…not very good. Like, hardly any of it makes sense and it’s full of unbelievable and illogical events.

 

Characters are quite good, though.

[ZOK]

10 minutes ago, Strafe said:

hardly any of it makes sense and it’s full of unbelievable and illogical events.

 

Characters are quite good, though.

Kind of sums up most mainstream movies these days.

[Steve McQueef]

Sounds like Luther.

[footle]

2 hours ago, Steve McQueef said:

Sounds like Luther.

beat me to it.

[Monkeyboy]

Watched it last night. If you liked the telly show, you should get a kick out of this telly film. I know I did. And yeah, there is stuff that doesn’t make sense. But, as said above, that’s Luther!

[Strafe]

Luther generally had issues with character motivation (the snap change of the vigilante dude at the end of season 3 being a prime example), and the villain of the week format meaning crimes had to be solved quickly to fit the run time. This is why Luther’s first hypothesis of a killer is always correct and no time is dedicated to exploring other options.

 

Fallen Sun, however, is riddled with factual implausibilities and non-sensical explanations as well as being filled with more gaffs than a very big bag of gaffs (sorry, run out of metaphors today)

[Uncle Mike]

I don't remember it being a villain of the week show, I remember it being a season arc show. Was it both?

 

But yeah, the show's always been a hot mess of (what I assumed was knowing) trash. Just sort of charismatic trash.

[footle]

I think my favourite non-sensical bit was at the end.

 

Spoiler

So you are pulled, freezing, from a frozen lake. Half drowned, you are able to stand while wearing a light blanket for warmth. But no-one has taken off your giant woollen coat which still appears to be perfectly dry?

 

Just as well our villain never selected a candidate for blackmail who wasn't susceptible (to the point of irrationality) to it.

[Strafe]

37 minutes ago, footle said:

I think my favourite non-sensical bit was at the end.

 

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So you are pulled, freezing, from a frozen lake. Half drowned, you are able to stand while wearing a light blanket for warmth. But no-one has taken off your giant woollen coat which still appears to be perfectly dry?

 

Just as well our villain never selected a candidate for blackmail who wasn't susceptible (to the point of irrationality) to it.

Well

 

Spoiler

It clearly wasn’t that cold in artic tundra Norway, as despite being in a frozen hotel where the walls had literally iced over there was not a single instance of condensation on anyone’s breath whilst inside.

 

[footle]

🙂

[Monkeyspill]

6 hours ago, footle said:

I think my favourite non-sensical bit was at the end.

 

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So you are pulled, freezing, from a frozen lake. Half drowned, you are able to stand while wearing a light blanket for warmth. But no-one has taken off your giant woollen coat which still appears to be perfectly dry?

 

Just as well our villain never selected a candidate for blackmail who wasn't susceptible (to the point of irrationality) to it.

Also,

Spoiler

he was lying on a gurney thing, then he got up, they handcuffed him and marched him to a helicopter, (presumably, he was still hypothermic, drowned and stabbed) then he was on a gurney again in the helicopter.

 

[glb]

Spoiler

No Alice, no bueno.

 

[Madness]

Absolutely dreadful. Biggest standout moment for me 

 

Spoiler

The whole prison sequence. Reducing Luther’s whole “will he get rumbled for being a bit of a bad copper” arc down to him getting caught and sentenced off screen was shit anyway. 
 

then he somehow smuggles in a top of the line smartphone - I dread to think how he got that in. 
 

and the guard just agrees to help Luther organise an actual prison riot in which people die, for no real reason or benefit to himself besides “I have to stop a murderer, honest.” 

 

[Girth Certificate]

the series storylines varied from 1 to a few eps each, which would be the length of a movie. I've no idea how they managed to fuck this up so badly.

[neoELITE]

I watched this last night.

 

 

The Luther talking to people bits were fine and well acted and dramatic.  The conversations with the Mum were fine.  The action scenes were just silly.  The ending was 

 

Spoiler

He's under the water and the helicopter pilot knows exactly where and divers actually dive in - presumably from a hovering helicopter - lift him out and he's OK enough to stand up.  Meanwhile, Andy Serkis drowns at least two or three minutes before.

 

That strange wig probably deserves an Oscar is they start doing best comedy supporting actor. 

 

I'm very anti-action movie usually but thought I'd watch it.  Mrs neoELITE was even pulling this apart and she loves action movies and will happily tell me to stfu when I start picking plot holes up.  She didn't yesterday.  She burst out laughing at the end when poor Andy and his strange wig were floating under the ice.  

 

It was fairly awful to be fair. 

[Monkeyboy]

To be honest, all the bad stuff people are mentioning is why I enjoyed it. I do wonder sometimes if Neil Cross takes himself really seriously as a writer. He seems to win awards or get nominated but I’m not sure why. He reminds me of Shaun Hutson.

[ckny]

What a load of shite.

 

Spoiler

What was the third act all about? All of a sudden we're at a frozen mansion in Norway and Andy Serkis is Jigsaw hosting an online game show? Why? Who was he? What was his motivation? Why did he hate Luther?