Will you cancel Netflix if they stop Password Sharing?

[Hitcher]

But you can't watch anything on the Apple TV itself.

[mushashi]

On 21/02/2023 at 14:51, elyuw said:

Agreed, but a Netflix account already has such a limitation with number concurrent streams depending on which tier you're on.

 

However suggestions in the past few weeks have been that they want you to define a "home" and then using the service outside of that will require a device to be "authorised" in some way. Which is why is seems odd that if you don't use the service on a TV they won't bother enforcing that.

 

This is kind of the "all you can eat" restaurant business model, they don't literally expect every customer to eat shitloads, just pay for the freedom to do so but not actually max it out in practice, much like "unlimited" monthly internet service then 😉. 2 or more households using streams from one account will likely eat more than a single household using multiple streams would do, unless people in the same household watch entirely different programmes.

 

Bandwidth and the infrastructure to supply it costs money, the inherent downside of whoever was the idiot who thought IPTV was a good idea as the primary delivery platform for recorded content.

 

Using technological methods of enforcement can be circumvented, unless they become draconian in nature, but then you'd annoy the vast majority of paying subscribers who aren't apparently moving home location every other minute like some of their customers apparently do.

[Sarlaccfood]

So the d-day for this has come and gone in Canada and so far the account we’re sharing with the brother-in-law is still working.
 

Maybe they’ve had second thoughts? I certainly won’t be paying for it. Unless they release a package that comes with more free time for me included, I just don’t get enough time to watch more than a couple of episodes of something a week, so I’ll stick with HBO. 

[Capwn]

Yeah I set my primary address a week or so ago , neither my sister or dad have has issues using it so far.

[Gabe]

I imagine it will just be collecting and interrogating data for a period before they start enforcing things. 

[Hitcher]

 

[The Disco]

That's way to complicated for 99.99% of those who are password sharing though.

[Hitcher]

Rolling out this week in America.

 

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1290583-netflix-sharing-password-crackdown-detailed-cost-for-buying-extra-members-set

[JohnC]

The UK too. About a quarter of their UK customers are deemed to be sharing and are getting notice of it. 

[Alex W.]

So your “Household” location can be set by a TV or TV-connected device, or a location will be selected automatically for you based on usage. Physical location is determined by the usual device snooping techniques like IP address and network device, but not GPS. You can add additional users for other geographic locations but each only gets one device. 
 

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/128339

 

[Sabreman]

It says if you don't use it with a TV you don't have to set a 'Netflix Household'. Is that a dodge? I don't use any apps on actual TVs, it's all tablets and Apple TV devices.

[pastry]

Was sharing with my Mum in NZ (account is AUS), and she was kicked off at least 6 weeks ago - so it is happening.

Possibly easier to detect across different countries, of course.

She didn't get her own account.

[Alex W.]

8 hours ago, Sabreman said:

It says if you don't use it with a TV you don't have to set a 'Netflix Household'. Is that a dodge? I don't use any apps on actual TVs, it's all tablets and Apple TV devices.

No, if you scroll down and open the bottom questions it says your Household location will be set automatically and you won’t be able to edit it unless you use a TV app.

 

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If a Netflix Household hasn’t been set, we will automatically set one for you based on IP address, device IDs, and account activity. 

You can always update your Netflix Household from a TV by connecting to your internet and following the steps above.

 

[ZOK]

9 hours ago, Alex W. said:

So your “Household” location can be set by a TV or TV-connected device, or a location will be selected automatically for you based on usage. Physical location is determined by the usual device snooping techniques like IP address and network device, but not GPS. You can add additional users for other geographic locations but each only gets one device. 
 

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/128339

 

Hmm…we don’t currently share with any other users, but are about to give my partner’s mom an iPad (she lives up North, we’re down South). If I set it up with Netflix at home from our account, will that work or will it get nixed when she uses it?

[Alex W.]

I think they’re being purposefully vague on that to avoid people figuring out work-arounds.

[ZOK]

Okay, worth a try then I guess!

[Darwock]

I thought this had quietly gone away because it was so unpopular. When is it Japan’s turn for the crackdown?

[Huz]

Did they only send the "An update on sharing between households" email to people they reckon are sharing? It's written as if it isn't accusing you of anything, but as I'm blatantly sharing I assume it's actually targeted - or did everyone get it?

[Mogster]

I didn't get anything and I'm not sharing, so maybe.

[JohnC]

39 minutes ago, Huz said:

Did they only send the "An update on sharing between households" email to people they reckon are sharing? It's written as if it isn't accusing you of anything, but as I'm blatantly sharing I assume it's actually targeted - or did everyone get it?

It is targeted, from what I read. 

[PaB]

23 minutes ago, Huz said:

Did they only send the "An update on sharing between households" email to people they reckon are sharing? It's written as if it isn't accusing you of anything, but as I'm blatantly sharing I assume it's actually targeted - or did everyone get it?

I’m sharing with a couple of family members  but no email. I presume it’s going to base it on concurrent access from the account from different locations. So unless everyone is using it regularly then maybe you won’t be first on the list? 

[ScouserInExile]

So... The kids can't watch on the in-laws' account this morning.

 

Is there a way around this yet? 

 

If not, what's the cheapest option for Netflix now? I seem to remember there being a way to get a Turkish account for not very much...

[Illyria]

It's happening in Germany too, now. Been sharing it with 6 other people. Gonna have to figure this out, but we were thinking about canceling anyway. 

[ScouserInExile]

I can't get my head around the pricing for sharing now. We have two devices we regularly use to watch Netflix on and maybe three more that get occasionally used. If we go with whatever they're calling the sharing option, do we just pay the top up for our household or is it per device?

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, ScouserInExile said:

I can't get my head around the pricing for sharing now. We have two devices we regularly use to watch Netflix on and maybe three more that get occasionally used. If we go with whatever they're calling the sharing option, do we just pay the top up for our household or is it per device?

If they’re all your own household devices, then you don’t pay extra. The sharing thing is for sharing with another household. 

[Vespa Alex]

9 minutes ago, ScouserInExile said:

I can't get my head around the pricing for sharing now. We have two devices we regularly use to watch Netflix on and maybe three more that get occasionally used. If we go with whatever they're calling the sharing option, do we just pay the top up for our household or is it per device?

As long as those devices periodically connect to WiFi at your home location, that’s fine. No extra top up needed.

 

It’s only ones that never go home that should trigger the sharing warnings. 

[Tony]

3 hours ago, ScouserInExile said:

So... The kids can't watch on the in-laws' account this morning.

 

Is there a way around this yet? 

 

If not, what's the cheapest option for Netflix now? I seem to remember there being a way to get a Turkish account for not very much...

 

Still exists. But you will probably have to buy a Turkish gift card first and will be region locked to Turkey for the first 30 days and can't access it without a VPN on. It's not as easy to do as it was before.

 

[Alex W.]

The extra person on the UK sub is slightly less than the price of a full subscription in Turkey, which I imagine is deliberate.

[Monkeyboy]

So have they sent another email out? I share my password with my mum but haven’t had a notification about the new rules.

[Thor]

I share my account with three others, and pay for the full fat 4k service, and have had no warning email from Netflix.