Judas (Or - what Ken Levine did next).

[JoeK]

 

 

Loving the graphic style very much. Always loved the worlds Levine creates - the gameplay not quite so much, but always keen to see what these turn out like. 

 

 

 

Doubt it'll be a 2023 game, mind.

[Harsin]

Maybe this will bear more resemblance to reality than the billy bullshit reveal of Bioshock Infinite.

[PeteJ]

That looks fucking great, it's basically bioshock 4 and I'm very much ok with that. 

[glb]

Like the look of the trailer, in so much as it gives off Bioshock vibes. Assume from the look it's set in the same universe, or solar system judging by the asteroid, at least?

[MechE]

Didn't he say he was going to make a 'highly repayable narrative' game. I wonder if the narrative / powers / objectives are pretty different depending on who you choose to ally with, and that the intention is that you play it several times?

[Clipper]

I don't play masses of games but I have completed all the BIoshocks so I really like the look of this one. I am assuming he doesn't have the Bioshock name anymore hence the name change but the game looks the same

 

[RubberJohnny]

It basically looks like a nostalgia project without the license, like Callisto Protocol was to Dead Space.

 

I don't get the point of those, really, they ultimately can't fulfil that nostalgia-appeal, because the audience for them all want the real one with the real name, Resident Evil 2 RE, rather than the knockoff Daymare: 1997.

[Wiper]

 

I'm so glad Ken fired most of his team so that he could start afresh and move away from Bioshock in order to create this startling original new title.

[Qazimod]

I liked Infinite a lot but I can't pretend that it didn't throw away some significant parts of B1's appeal. Infinite's two-weapon limit was daft (especially when they want you to upgrade weapons), a few of the vigors felt interchangeable, the hallways weren't nearly as interesting as Rapture, Songbird was little more than a cutscene and I'm really bad at upgrades and bemoaned the lack of a respec after I went into the final encounter without enough shields.  

 

If this is just Bioshock gameplay with the better maps of the first game, that would be a decent start.

[Clipper]

11 minutes ago, RubberJohnny said:

It basically looks like a nostalgia project without the license, like Callisto Protocol was to Dead Space.

 

I don't get the point of those, really, they ultimately can't fulfil that nostalgia-appeal, because the audience for them all want the real one with the real name, Resident Evil 2 RE, rather than the knockoff Daymare: 1997.

do you get paid everytime you use the word nostalgia?

[Gambit]

14 minutes ago, Wiper said:

 

I'm so glad Ken fired most of his team so that he could start afresh and move away from Bioshock in order to create this startling original new title.

 

I feel like I'm going insane that nobody remembers this and still treats Ken Levine with this amazing reverence.

[RubberJohnny]

Just now, Gambit said:

I feel like I'm going insane that nobody remembers this and still treats Ken Levine with this amazing reverence.

 

He was working on some revolutionary new storytelling technology, right? Nope, back to the well of "remember 2008?" instead.

[Clipper]

3 minutes ago, Gambit said:

 

I feel like I'm going insane that nobody remembers this and still treats Ken Levine with this amazing reverence.

didn't know (or had forgotten about) this so I will save some money now. I tell you if Jeff Minter turns into a right wing arse then I may never purchase another video game.

[matt0]

1 hour ago, Gambit said:

 

I feel like I'm going insane that nobody remembers this and still treats Ken Levine with this amazing reverence.

 

The main thing I remember was when he laid out his revolutionary vision for the future of videogame narrative design but he was just describing Dwarf Fortress. Only in a way where it was obvious he wasn't aware of the existence of Dwarf Fortress.

 

What's probably happened was he somehow wanted to do all that systemic narrative stuff in a AAA quality title but with a tiny dev team, and because that is basically impossible we've got Bioshock 4: Makes You Think.

[deerokus]

2 hours ago, Clipper said:

I don't play masses of games but I have completed all the BIoshocks so I really like the look of this one. I am assuming he doesn't have the Bioshock name anymore hence the name change but the game looks the same

 

 

Despite the name change it's still the same studio, owned by take two, so they do have the rights.

[bear]

Take 2 are making a new Bioshock. That at least gives me hope that this is going to be something different. 

[scottcr]

I thought Bioshock was massively over-rated and didn't bother with the the rest... go me

[JoeK]

From a gameplay point of view, I don't like either of the games. From a world-building aspect, I think they are absolutely fucking great, and I love spending time in them. I think Levine always promises more than he has delivered, but I can't deny that he makes some fantastic landscapes.

 

I'd absolutely love to play a game in Rapture where things haven't got to fuckery, and you could just take in the sights a bit. I know you could do a small amount of that in the DLC with Infinite, but it wasn't enough for me. Same thing really with Infinite itself. Columbia's great!

[Harsin]

The story of Bioshock Infinite has aged like milk under in a tanning bed.