The Game Awards 2022 - 12:30 a.m. GMT

[Nick R]

2 hours ago, footle said:

It’s never going to rival the Oscars until the only games that win awards are games about the stress and heartbreak of making videogames, and how it’s painful to be a videogame creator entirely misunderstood by the world at large.

 

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[Qazimod]

6 hours ago, earlymodernsteve said:

But every single award is followed by a trailer saying 'Friendship ended with all the old games, this is your friend now' and it all descends into a capitalist wankfest (which at least is honest).

 

(...)

 

At the end of the day, the game awards are a transparent egotrip that only cares about fuelling desire for more consumption.

 

6 hours ago, Benny said:

It is of course one long back slapping advert

 

It's kind of why I rarely stay up until the small hours for things like this. It's a cycle of vapid hype designed for communities, podcasts and websites to obediently regurgitate its contents. There's very little there that I couldn't get in a more convenient format a few hours later (I did, in fact; the next morning I googled "game awards 2022 live blog" and skimmed the headlines.) I admit that nice surprises can be fun in a live environment, but not everything is going to resonate with everyone, and the whole thing could just be a waste of your time.

[Kevvy Metal]

5 hours ago, Strafe said:

They said it was in engine gameplay. I mean, I’d take that with a pinch of salt about how representative it would be of the final thing but they did say it was gameplay.

Yeah…that probably just means Unreal Engine 😂 UE4 is used for plenty of animation work! 

[Broker]

13 hours ago, earlymodernsteve said:

I kinda hated this. So desperately wanting to be The Oscars but totally hamstrung on being obsessed with the future. Awards should be about looking back, celebrating success and commemorating losses. But every single award is followed by a trailer saying 'Friendship ended with all the old games, this is your friend now' and it all descends into a capitalist wankfest (which at least is honest).

 

They mentioned Kevin Conroy but only in conjunction with shilling his voice in Suicide Squad. Judge's heartfelt speech was followed by Keighley sniping about it taking too long and then another trailer. Why no retrospection on individuals and studios lost in the past year? Why not a single comment about an industry riddled with abuse and scandal? Rhetorical, of course, I know why.

 

At the end of the day, the game awards are a transparent egotrip that only cares about fuelling desire for more consumption. Expecting anything else is naive but, Hell, I'll take naivety over total cynicism. Games are an amazing medium with huge complexity and possibility, but you'd never know this from watching the awards. So, just like the Oscars really...

 

Still, Dead Cells Castlevania and Hades II look fire.

 

The Oscars is awful in a variety of ways, but at least they generally vote for movies that have something about them. This is a like a movie awards where the big winners are Marvel movies and whatever the rock was in this year but everyone pretends they’re very artistically worthy. It wants to be the Oscar’s but it’s closer to the MTV movie awards. The Oscars would’ve voted for immortality. 

 

9 hours ago, mushashi said:

This is just the latest iteration of the Spike Video Game Awards, which Keighley has produced since 2003. We're well past complaining about its tone and contents at this point in time.

 

If you want an actual annual games industry awards show, go watch either:

 

The BAFTA Games Awards

The D.I.C.E. Awards

The Game Developers Choice Awards

 

But strangely enough, way fewer people bother paying attention to some actual industry voted awards, I wonder why...

Are these other shows streamed online?

[Darwock]

It may not have been an ideal celebration of the games of the current year, but it did kind of fill the gap left by the slow collapse of E3 in recent years. The hobby that we are all part of is fuelled by hype, so it’s nice to get some - at the same time as seeing Elden Ring get an well deserved round of applause from a room full of people.

[Sarlaccfood]

3 hours ago, Broker said:

This is a like a movie awards where the big winners are Marvel movies and whatever the rock was in this year

Hmm if CoD or Assassins Creed were cleaning up every year you’d be right, but God of War and Elden Ring feel closer to stuff like 1917 or a Chris Nolan movie.

[Broker]

2 hours ago, Sarlaccfood said:

Hmm if CoD or Assassins Creed were cleaning up every year you’d be right, but God of War and Elden Ring feel closer to stuff like 1917 or a Chris Nolan movie.

The Miyazaki/Nolan comparison is actually quite apt, and would work for Kojima too, as his work has quite a strong streak of audience interpretation. Sometimes it works extremely well like the response to inception with the debates about the ending, sometimes less well like the response to Tenet where nobody understood what was happening.

 

I don’t think that’s really a comparison you can apply to Sony’s first party output though, with its almost pathological need to loudly explain everything that is happening all the time. I’m not sure what the film equivalent is of something that thinks it’s really clever and worthy but is actually trashy, simplistic fun. 

[Strafe]

16 hours ago, Kevvy Metal said:

Yeah…that probably just means Unreal Engine 😂 UE4 is used for plenty of animation work! 

Hellblade 2 uses Unreal 5 so it must be genuine!
 

[footle]

On 12/12/2022 at 04:49, Sarlaccfood said:

Hmm if CoD or Assassins Creed were cleaning up every year you’d be right, but God of War and Elden Ring feel closer to stuff like 1917 or a Chris Nolan movie.

god of war won best narrative, which in a year with both immortality and pentiment (let alone a million less hyped games than those two) is an absolute joke. The narrative is sub-marvel.

 

Apparently the following is a spoiler. It really isn't - unless you think a precis of a bog standard coming of age story^ is a spoiler - but read on at your own risk.

Spoiler

boy has dad, boy rebels a bit against dad, boy finds other dad, other dad isn’t all that good, stuff happens that would be spoilers but which is entirely predictable, ending is precisely what normally happens when boy becomes man

 

Say what you like about Chris Nolan, but he’ll usually (except tenet) have something interesting to say.

 

^ And if you think even that is a spoiler, then you didn't pay attention to the first game.

[bear]

Sweet suffering fuck, multiple people have posted about Ragnarok being their Christmas holiday game and you're in here posting spoilery stuff for no good reason. Your point could be made just as easily without that stuff. 

 

Like, c'mon man. 

[footle]

10 hours ago, bear said:

Sweet suffering fuck, multiple people have posted about Ragnarok being their Christmas holiday game and you're in here posting spoilery stuff for no good reason. Your point could be made just as easily without that stuff. 

 

Like, c'mon man. 

 

Edited.

it's still not anything like a good narrative. It has a nice enough fighting engine and some pretty graphics, and one area where they release the training wheels from their game design for an hour.

[bear]

I only played the PS4 GoW last year and knew most of the reveals beforehand so I'm not particularly bothered about spoilers personally but thought it was bad form to post story beats like that. If you want to throw a little strop like your snarkily edited post then feel free. 

[Kevvy Metal]

12 hours ago, bear said:

Sweet suffering fuck, multiple people have posted about Ragnarok being their Christmas holiday game and you're in here posting spoilery stuff for no good reason. Your point could be made just as easily without that stuff. 

 

Like, c'mon man. 

 

2 minutes ago, bear said:

I only played the PS4 GoW last year and knew most of the reveals beforehand so I'm not particularly bothered about spoilers personally but thought it was bad form to post story beats like that. If you want to throw a little strop like your snarkily edited post then feel free. 

 

He's also wrong about GOW:R. There's seems to be a few people in that thread with a (Leviathan) axe to grind.