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5 minutes ago, snowbind said:

VR is better than the deck. 

 

Roll in here trying to give me buyers remorse why don't you! It's not even going to arrive for a week or so. I'll end up stood, staring at it, wishing I could strap it to my face and smell my own stale Beat Saber sweat.

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Playing PC games but now in handheld form vs. Playing VR is a no contest. VR, if it’s your first time, is a no contest. Whether it’s mini golf, Best Saber, or Resi 4 again, all of it blow away Witcher 3, but now smaller and on the shitter.

 

Also, the whole poo particle lid down thing… sure, it sounds realistic, but how many non-germofobs do you know who got ill from said shit spray? Sh*t & p*ss how you want my fellow gamers, once again, unless you’re severely special / depleted in your immune systems, you’ll be fine. Us humans are made of sterner stuff.

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On 28/11/2022 at 09:03, Lorfarius said:

I used to do loads of loo gaming until I heard about poo particles. Now its a throw away mag and nothing more.

 

Here is an uncomfortable truth - absolutely everything is covered in poo particles. Especially everything outside your house.

 

Every single door available to the public for example, is covered in poo particles.

 

On 28/11/2022 at 08:24, Broker said:

Get a switch. Loads of the indies you’d play on steam deck are on there, Nintendo first party games are amazing, you can play fun multiplayer stuff with the family but also play single player stuff solo, it’s cheaper, which you could spend on Nintendo online to get some of the best retro console games ever made. 

 

You can play every single Nintendo first party game ever made on the Steam Deck.

 

6 hours ago, KriessG said:

Playing PC games but now in handheld form vs. Playing VR is a no contest. VR, if it’s your first time, is a no contest. Whether it’s mini golf, Best Saber, or Resi 4 again, all of it blow away Witcher 3, but now smaller and on the shitter.

 

VR is a gimmick that is mind blowing for about a week then quickly ends up sat in a corner, unused.

 

Ultimately most people's lives aren't compatible with strapping something to your face and shutting out the entire world for hours at a time.

 

Nobody has solved that issue yet.

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I havent tried switch emulation ( I don’t need to, I have a switch) , but thus far any gc /n64/snes games are a piece of piss to emulate on the deck . As are Dreamcast/mega drive/anything Else etc. emudeck ( and I’m sure retrodeck) make its as simple as you could ask for . The only one I have struggled with so far is Xbox .

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Only problem with Steam Deck for switch games is that without an actual switch he won't be able to create backups of his legitimately purchased switch games like all other steam deck owners do. 

 

I have VR but not a Steam Deck, but the Steam Deck still seems like the more practical option that you'll get more use out of.

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40 minutes ago, Quest said:

 

Taping a Steam Deck to my face to play Labo VR as we speak. Wish me luck.

 

you'll need to run some cables from the taped on deck too for the full VR experience, and clear all the furniture from the room you're doing it in too.

 

then after playing for less than 5m and feeling a bit queasy you should spend the next hour or two online declaring it the future of gaming. 

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1 hour ago, Quest said:

 

Taping a Steam Deck to my face to play Labo VR as we speak. Wish me luck.

 

I've sellotaped some scum-covered CEX wiimotes to a hula hoop to get a hooky version of Ring Fit Adventure going

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Every time I read the thread title I imagine the 3 doing battle in the ring. I can’t imagine anything other than the toilet winning, the Deck and Quest will bounce off and not do any damage, whereas the Toilet can crush the other two. Toilet is the obvious answer, surely?

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9 minutes ago, AlexM said:

Every time I read the thread title I imagine the 3 doing battle in the ring. I can’t imagine anything other than the toilet winning, the Deck and Quest will bounce off and not do any damage, whereas the Toilet can crush the other two. Toilet is the obvious answer, surely?

 

Porcelain is fairly fragile if dropped from a height, so it depends if the Deck and/or Quest can throw it out of said ring.

 

Or these are all inanimate objects and I need to retake my medicine

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39 minutes ago, Siri said:

 

Porcelain is fairly fragile if dropped from a height, so it depends if the Deck and/or Quest can throw it out of said ring.

 

Or these are all inanimate objects and I need to retake my medicine


They’re only inanimate when you look directly at them (Or is that only in Toy Story?)..

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14 hours ago, monkeydog said:

Roll in here trying to give me buyers remorse why don't you! It's not even going to arrive for a week or so. I'll end up stood, staring at it, wishing I could strap it to my face and smell my own stale Beat Saber sweat.

 

Sorry mate. I saw the OP, responded and then realised it fell literally after you posted you bought a deck. I own both a deck and vr and I am sure you'll enjoy them both. In fact the deck is an amazing bit of kit. It really is a marvel that managed to cram a PC into something that, in my mind at least, is the same size of a gamegear. But for arguments sake here is my reasoning. 

 

The issue with the deck, is that when all is said and done, once the newness and the marvel has worn off, it's just a way to experience the same games is the same way. The experiential modifier is that you can play them wherever you like. For me, this has been amazing. My daughter was born 4 months ago and I've played more single player games in the last 4 months than I have done in a decade. I can play, pause it, put it down and all whilst being in the same room or vicinity. But it's a bit like when you build a new pc. You spend ages specing it, getting it built, you run some benchmarks and then it's just there running windows and you're browsing reddit again. 

 

VR is the complete opposite to that. It's a whole new way to engage with games in a completely different experiential way. It's a colossal shift in immersion and gaming. I've had a vr headset in some form for the last 7 years and in that time my top gaming moments are all VR related. From the first time I sat in an X-wing and looked over and out the cockpit, braining a zombie in the walking dead, floating around the ISS, playing mini golf. All of those experiences are immersive and engaging and a colossal leap forwards in what gaming can offer. Even with my daughter being born and even with me playing loads of sp games on the deck, I've still played more VR and actively sought out to play vr with mates, way more than the deck. 

 

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32 minutes ago, snowbind said:

 

Sorry mate. I saw the OP, responded and then realised it fell literally after you posted you bought a deck. I own both a deck and vr and I am sure you'll enjoy them both. In fact the deck is an amazing bit of kit. It really is a marvel that managed to cram a PC into something that, in my mind at least, is the same size of a gamegear. But for arguments sake here is my reasoning. 

 

The issue with the deck, is that when all is said and done, once the newness and the marvel has worn off, it's just a way to experience the same games is the same way. The experiential modifier is that you can play them wherever you like. For me, this has been amazing. My daughter was born 4 months ago and I've played more single player games in the last 4 months than I have done in a decade. I can play, pause it, put it down and all whilst being in the same room or vicinity. But it's a bit like when you build a new pc. You spend ages specing it, getting it built, you run some benchmarks and then it's just there running windows and you're browsing reddit again. 

 

VR is the complete opposite to that. It's a whole new way to engage with games in a completely different experiential way. It's a colossal shift in immersion and gaming. I've had a vr headset in some form for the last 7 years and in that time my top gaming moments are all VR related. From the first time I sat in an X-wing and looked over and out the cockpit, braining a zombie in the walking dead, floating around the ISS, playing mini golf. All of those experiences are immersive and engaging and a colossal leap forwards in what gaming can offer. Even with my daughter being born and even with me playing loads of sp games on the deck, I've still played more VR and actively sought out to play vr with mates, way more than the deck. 

 

 

I feel it's rare to be able to use VR so much with kids about, perhaps because yours is so young you've still got a chance. I put my VR headset away a while back after hitting my son in the face with it - he knew I couldn't see him, I told him to stand back, he still stood too close and got beat saber'd. It is a nice experience but being completely cut off from your surroundings is impractical unless you have dedicated child-free (and animal-free) time with someone else looking after them.

 

The Deck is now my go-to gaming device, it's brought me back into the fold and I've even replaced the Xbox with a PC as a result. You can tinker with it as much as you like but I tend to find when I'm using it I'm not looking for or engaging in any distractions - I turn it on and play a game. Same with the PC under the TV actually, no extra apps, controller based, turn on and play (the gaming laptop at my desk is a different story).

 

I don't see how many can go wrong with a Deck when they have children, whereas VR really requires that dedicated space and time - I don't get that.

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I'd say steam deck. It's something that I'm wanting and with my library of steam games, it's looking worth it! 

 

I've already got a quest 2 and use it a lot. It really depends on what you'll use it for. I use it for social stuff plus a few of the more puzzily games that don't make your head spin if you play too long. The games aren't cheap and there's not a lot of demo's. You can do a lot for free an you can watch 3d movies and things like that though. 

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I found the opposite when it comes to VR - I initially loved it (especially as it was during lockdown and nobody could go out), but over time it was an absolute faff to play the things I wanted to play - turn on the PC, load up Virtual Desktop, move into the other room because there's space, turn on the headset, connect it through WiFi, load up a game and then, finally, playing the sodding thing. For about 15 minutes before I need a sit down because my face is a hot mess.

 

This doesn't take away from the fact that there games I played through VR are superb. But it requires effort, space, and for the best experience a heck of a lot more cash than just the Quest on its own.

 

The Deck? I don't even turn on my main computer any more. I just pick up the thing and play the videogames I got on it. Are they the same games that I could have played on PC? Yeah. While I'm ill in bed, or at work, waiting for a doctor's appointment, or if the living room is otherwise occupied.

 

I've probably mentioned it elsewhere on the forum - The ability to just pick up and play a game I bought on PC has been a holy grail as someone who really liked the idea of small form HTPC computers under the telly since... The Shuttle brand came out, I think?

 

I've tried all sorts - Steam Big Picture, Launchbox, GOG Galaxy, Playnite, and even just slumming it with a basic HTPC remote on desktop Windows. Nothing felt right - if it wasn't UI getting in the way, it's Windows UAC and installs getting in the way. If it wasn't that, it was game launchers getting in the way.

 

As it turns out, the actual solution to all this faff and workarounds was what the deck does - just put all that shit right in front of me, in my actual hands. Want to pick a game? Use the controller and select it. Need to type in a name of my character? Pull up the keyboard and use the trackpads to punch something in. Game launchers? Tap the screen to tell it to fuck off.

 

There's just a level of immediacy that's just thoroughly tangible that it makes my weary eyes from a good decade of device drivers and Direct X fuckery light up just a little bit brighter than what they were, while giving me access to the gaming scene that made me amoured with the PC in the first place.

 

I still think a decent toilet is a better purchase than either, though. I always think you should spend good money on things you use every day.

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48 minutes ago, monkeydog said:

My lovely children have a habit of invading dedicated spaces.  They also seem to bypass any lock, other then a bolt on the other side of a door.

 

If it's not the kids accessing that bolt, it's definitely a dog that's going to do it.

 

My brother's Dogue de Bordeaux might be a massive lump, but it's also capable of Harry Houdini levels of escape artistry if it wants to see who's pulled up to deliver some Amazon tat outside. Usually by jumping and bashing deadbolts off, wholesale.

 

Lovely dog, otherwise!

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7 hours ago, Siri said:

 

I've sellotaped some scum-covered CEX wiimotes to a hula hoop to get a hooky version of Ring Fit Adventure going

 

If you buy the ring controller you can absolutely emulate Ring Fit Adventure on a steam deck.

 

Any Switch based periperal can be used with Yuzu.

 

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