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World Cup Qatar 2022 - Desert Strike

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Boothjan

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One thing that deserves some credit thus far is the referees - they are letting play flow as much as possible, bookings are (on the whole) fully deserved and they're doing all they can to prevent red cards.  Only 1 so far is amazing, really - and that was only upgraded because of VAR and was the correct decision.  

 

So many tournaments are ruined by fussy refereeing but this one has been so much better.  Not perfect of course (still don't understand why Maguire didn't get a penalty v iran!) but overall, very good.

 

And as much as I hate VAR, it's been used well.  As has been said, it's the rules that are shit - the way they've been implemented has been good.

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1 hour ago, spork said:

This is the last 10am game isn't it? It's always a sad when you lose a set of daily fixtures during the world cup.

Yeah, I always love the group stages of the Euros/WC. I know there are often a lot of duffers, but there's nothing that says 'carnival of football' more than having all-day games.

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2 hours ago, Gotters said:

First couple of games today a test of commitment to watching the whole thing - that said the KO times for this tournament have been great, no need to alter sleep patterns or drink coffee for late games, and 3 matches are over effectively during the day so not annoying the other half by claiming the tv all evening.


Good job the first one has been the best game of the tournament by a country mile then!  It’s been an absolutely bonkers affair. 

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Just now, Naysonymous said:


Good job the first one has been the best game of the tournament by a country mile then!  It’s been an absolutely bonkers affair. 

Yeah, this is a cracking game. Who knows what way it's going to go!

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I’ll say the two  quick fire Cameroon goals have been vindication for playing to the whistle and for the linesman not putting the flag up straight away.   The old pros doing the punditry scene who almost seem to take pride in deliberately misunderstanding why the flag stays down until play breaks down (hello Alan Shearer) all need to watch this.  
 

I think I’m a little bit in love with Vincent Aboubakar too.  He’s an agent of chaos and I think he’s scaring the shit out of Serbia. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Naysonymous said:

I’ll say the two  quick fire Cameroon goals have been vindication for playing to the whistle and for the linesman not putting the flag up straight away.   The old pros doing the punditry scene who almost seem to take pride in deliberately misunderstanding why the flag stays down until play breaks down (hello Alan Shearer) all need to watch this.  
 

I think I’m a little bit in love with Vincent Aboubakar too.  He’s an agent of chaos and I think he’s scaring the shit out of Serbia. 
 

 

 

Cannot pos this enough. Really had to keep it together all through Shearer's commentary last night.

 

The worst bit was how awed he was by his co-commentator simply knowing how ties are broken at the end of the group stages - a piece of information that it would have taken at most a couple of minutes to look up. Almost as if it hadn't occurred to him that a sports journalist might do any amount of basic research before the most watched tournament in the world - despite his inordinate salary.

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Shearer is usually excellent on co-comms but he had an absolute nightmare last night. Across all of the BBC coverage there's this awful Top Gear-style chummy banter between the presenters where they have to rib each other about their bad knees or shit driving or something. It's interminable and far too familiar to be of zero interest to anyone. 

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29 minutes ago, Naysonymous said:

I’ll say the two  quick fire Cameroon goals have been vindication for playing to the whistle and for the linesman not putting the flag up straight away.   The old pros doing the punditry scene who almost seem to take pride in deliberately misunderstanding why the flag stays down until play breaks down (hello Alan Shearer) all need to watch this.

They said in commentary the linesman did raise the flag on one of them though?

 

7 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

Shearer is usually excellent on co-comms but he had an absolute nightmare last night. Across all of the BBC coverage there's this awful Top Gear-style chummy banter between the presenters where they have to rib each other about their bad knees or shit driving or something. It's interminable and far too familiar to be of zero interest to anyone. 

Was it better or worse than McCoist and Jon Champion spending about 2 solid minutes talking about Ferran Torres dating Enrique's daughter during the Spain/Costa Rica game? (And she's famous in her own right, they pointed out. Thanks, ITV!) Didn't Des Lynam make a weird comment about Laura Woods & Ian Wright acting a bit too familiar too? It's not just the BBC.

 

I also don't think it's anything new - commentating teams that have worked with each other for a while have often had a bit of irreverent chat during games. Not so much in the days of Barry Davies/John Motson et al, but Clive Tyldesley lives for that crap and has done for years.

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The flag going up conversation is all part of commentators appearing 'man of the people' and celebrating their thickness/stupidity so they don't get called nerds.

 

They're literally displaying that they're so lazy and stupid they aren't willing to learn the rules for something they are being paid to enlighten the masses on. Fine to disagree with something but not if in doing so you are displaying you're a moron. 

 

The groups are never that complicated but you have to have endless 'I'll get my calculator' 'I've run out of fingers' comments to dive into the depths of advanced statistical analysis needed for a table with 4 entries that needs sorting, when the highest score one line can have is 9.

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