PlayStation 5 DualSense Edge Controller - It’s…expensive

[KriessG]

2 hours ago, Luseth said:

LMK when you achieve it without camping in a corner and by playing the objective 😁

Winning the round is playing the objective 😛

[Haribokart]

5 hours ago, KriessG said:

As always, lots of negativity here.

 

Do you not think a fucking £220 controller with a main selling point of 'you can pay even more each time the parts we haven't designed properly break' and a worse battery then the standard pad deserves negativity?

[Pob]

2 hours ago, Strafe said:

Dualsense Edge review:

 

Sony emailed me to say it’s shipped.

DPD say they haven’t received it yet.

The charge on my account has been refunded.

 

It’s going really well!

 

[thesnwmn]

Lucky they've decided the only place to buy a PSVR2 is direct from them.

 

Its okay, even good, to want to take control of your own hardware delivery but for god sake do it well. Can't sit and blame retailers for late deliveries when it's your own organisation unable to achieve it.

[Strafe]

3 minutes ago, Haribokart said:

 

Do you not think a fucking £220 controller with a main selling point of 'you can pay even more each time the parts we haven't designed properly and will likely break' and a worse battery then the standard pad deserves negativity?

£210

 

In the same way as all controllers that get drift deserve negativity, yeah. Difference here is not buying a brand new one each time.

 

The battery isn’t worse, it’s the same one that’s in the dual sense. You might find that if you’re using all the inputs at the same time it will drain faster as it has more but in practice that’s not going to happen.

[Strafe]

Just now, thesnwmn said:

Lucky they've decided the only place to buy a PSVR2 is direct from them.

 

It’s okay, even good, to want to take control of your own hardware delivery but for god sake do it well. Can't sit and blame retailers for late deliveries when it's your own organisation unable to achieve it.

If they were going to fuck it the logistics then I’m glad it’s with this rather than the PSVR. One assumes lessons will be learned.

 

I mean it’s still a shit show, obviously.

[thesnwmn]

3 minutes ago, Strafe said:

One assumes lessons will be learned.

 

🤣 Why would we assume lessons will be learned? What incentive is there for them to do better? Will people actually cancel their PSVR2 orders in meaningful numbers? By the time there's new hardware that is exclusive to Sony distribution that matters (i.e. maybe a next gen console) all this is forgotten.

[Haribokart]

13 minutes ago, Strafe said:

£210

 

In the same way as all controllers that get drift deserve negativity, yeah. Difference here is not buying a brand new one each time.

 

The battery isn’t worse, it’s the same one that’s in the dual sense. You might find that if you’re using all the inputs at the same time it will drain faster as it has more but in practice that’s not going to happen.

 

Ah, £210. I take back my quote then, it's a bargain!

 

Honestly I have never had stick drift on any of my analogue enabled controllers - Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox, 360, PS3, PS4 and PS5 - never happened to me. Don't know what I've been doing right cos all of them lasted the entire generation.

[rgraves]

8 minutes ago, Strafe said:

The battery isn’t worse, it’s the same one that’s in the dual sense. You might find that if you’re using all the inputs at the same time it will drain faster as it has more but in practice that’s not going to happen.

 

Aren't the reports that it *is* actually worse though? Like, playing the same game on one of these the controller dies before a normal one does? I mean surely the least it should do is be the same?

[Strafe]

Just now, thesnwmn said:

 

🤣 Why would we assume lessons will be learned? What incentive is there for them to do better? Will people actually cancel their PSVR2 orders in meaningful numbers? By the time there's new hardware that is exclusive to Sony distribution that matters (i.e. maybe a next gen console) all this is forgotten.

Seems extremely obvious to me but if human error or an ordering system glitch has caused the issue then they can identify it to make sure it doesn’t happen again, which they wouldn’t want.

Whilst it’s possible that people may forget, they definitely wouldn’t a second time and bad press is bad press. No one wants to have a hardware launch when customers can’t get their hands on hardware because it upsets people and upset people start buying less.

 

Additionally, everyone affected seems to have had their payments cancelled so PlayStation UK don’t have any money. That’s a very powerful incentive to fix things, I’ve found.
 

 

[Strafe]

3 minutes ago, rgraves said:

 

Aren't the reports that it *is* actually worse though? Like, playing the same game on one of these the controller dies before a normal one does? I mean surely the least it should do is be the same?

That’s just what I’ve read. Personally I’ve never played a long enough gaming session for a regular one to die on me so maybe I’ll find out.

[Strafe]

5 minutes ago, Haribokart said:

Honestly I have never had stick drift on any of my analogue enabled controllers - Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox, 360, PS3, PS4 and PS5 - never happened to me. Don't know what I've been doing right cos all of them lasted the entire generation.

I am genuinely pleased for you and slightly envious.

[Pob]

6 minutes ago, rgraves said:

 

Aren't the reports that it *is* actually worse though? Like, playing the same game on one of these the controller dies before a normal one does? I mean surely the least it should do is be the same?

 

Yeah, but paddles.

[Strafe]

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting it’s a bargain but it does have a lot of features that appeal to me. The stick replacement isn’t the main one - ideally I won’t have to use that - but after buying Xbox elite controllers that have failed I probably wouldn’t have bought it unless it was a fair bit cheaper.

 

 

 

 

[Stanley]

What’s the deal with setting different levels of resistance on the triggers? Don’t the normal pads do that? Apart from the paddles I can’t see anything I think this pad does better than the Dualsense which is already excellent. 

[Strafe]

1 minute ago, Stanley said:

What’s the deal with setting different levels of resistance on the triggers? Don’t the normal pads do that? Apart from the paddles I can’t see anything I think this pad does better than the Dualsense which is already excellent. 

There are trigger stops that stop the triggers going down further. It’s not resistance in the adaptive triggers sense.

[rgraves]

18 minutes ago, Strafe said:

That’s just what I’ve read.

 

read where? Everywhere I look says it's worse:

 

 

[BitterToad]

The battery on the otherwise excellent Dualsense is complete shit after a month's use so I'd be intrigued to see how long you're going to get out of your TWO HUNDRED AND TEN POUND controller. 

[Strafe]

@rgraves I just came here to post that! I got it wrong. Six hours is more than I’d play for in one sitting so I’m not bothered but I can see it being irritating for others. I guess they had to cut the size down to fit the other stuff in and cheaped out on a higher capacity equivalent.

[rgraves]

Should have used AA batteries.......

 

😉

[Strafe]

I think those battery packs are stuffed with AA equivalents. On the regular one anyway. Maybe this uses AAA!

[KriessG]

1 hour ago, Haribokart said:

 

Do you not think a fucking £220 controller with a main selling point of 'you can pay even more each time the parts we haven't designed break' and a worse battery then the standard pad deserves negativity?

No because they are designed to be customisable to suit the user, with the bonus that if something does break then you can replace parts easier. Plus my standard launch pad is still absolutely fine after many, many hours. They’ve even stated in the marketing it’s meant for competitive play, which will mean wired.

 

If it’s not for you, don’t buy it, simple. Plenty of other options. 

[Uzi]

2 minutes ago, KriessG said:

No because they are designed to be customisable to suit the user, with the bonus that if something does break then you can replace parts easier. Plus my standard launch pad is still absolutely fine after many, many hours. They’ve even stated in the marketing it’s meant for competitive play, which will mean wired.

 

If it’s not for you, don’t buy it, simple. Plenty of other options. 

https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-dualsense-latency-test-suggests-no-difference-between-using-it-wired-or-wireless/

[KriessG]

Fine. I still doubt anyone will be using up the battery from full in one sitting. If you are… I suggest maybe having a think about things.

[thesnwmn]

So this is the Pro-Am controller.

Pro enough for the expensive controller but an Amateur so you have to go to work and cannot play for more than 6 hours at a time.

[Uzi]

 

oof

[Strafe]

Just read that the DualSense Edge’s haven’t been sent out today so they can fit bigger batteries in. The back doesn’t fit properly now and they had to take out the paddles and removable stick modules (and the sticks) but it’s worth it.

[Uzi]

Someone is a bit insecure about their small battery!

[Strafe]

It’s not the size of the battery, it’s the game you play it with.

[thesnwmn]

10 minutes ago, Uzi said:

 

oof

 

This is the equivalent of the DF technical breakdown of a game. Factually accurate but provides no useful information for people who actually like to play games.

 

I mean it's obviously not great given that practically it does have worse battery life. But maybe they could have made it more efficient.