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Do the Jim Ryan and Don Mattrick comparisons hold up beyond both being awkward media performers? 

 

Ryan is roughly three years in the top job at Sony. By this point in Mattricks reign we were already past the TV, TV, TV reveal of the Xboxone and he was jumping ship to Zynga. 

 

Ryan has had bad media moments but Sony seem to be in a better place than they were three years ago. They've bought some great studios, including one in Insomniac who might have a claim to be being the best in the world when you factor in the quality of what they make, their ability to at least get close to their announced release dates and also the fact that they seem to have a handle on crunch culture and people like working there. They've released an excellent console in the PS5 with a very promising VR headset on the way and they have successfully entered the PC games market. 

 

They have made mistakes but any momentum that MS have gained this generation has been down to them having their shit together this time around, not the return of arrogant PS3 era Sony. 

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27 minutes ago, bear said:

They have made mistakes but any momentum that MS have gained this generation has been down to them having their shit together this time around, not the return of arrogant PS3 era Sony. 

Think it's probably this, coupled with a willingness of a $2Tn company to eat manufacturing price increases for long term viability perhaps.

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11 hours ago, bear said:

Do the Jim Ryan and Don Mattrick comparisons hold up beyond both being awkward media performers? 

 

Ryan is roughly three years in the top job at Sony. By this point in Mattricks reign we were already past the TV, TV, TV reveal of the Xboxone and he was jumping ship to Zynga. 

 

Ryan has had bad media moments but Sony seem to be in a better place than they were three years ago. They've bought some great studios, including one in Insomniac who might have a claim to be being the best in the world when you factor in the quality of what they make, their ability to at least get close to their announced release dates and also the fact that they seem to have a handle on crunch culture and people like working there. They've released an excellent console in the PS5 with a very promising VR headset on the way and they have successfully entered the PC games market. 

 

They have made mistakes but any momentum that MS have gained this generation has been down to them having their shit together this time around, not the return of arrogant PS3 era Sony. 


Both come across as corporate types who are into gaming as a dispassionate professional persuit rather than people who care about it in the slightest outside of that. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that on a personal level but I think Jim Ryan is a bad person to have in charge of PlayStation in general. You look at all the people who were part of the team that made PS4 great and many of them have been sidelined or have left. 

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7 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:


Both come across as corporate types who are into gaming as a dispassionate professional persuit rather than people who care about it in the slightest outside of that.

 

That is the ironic thing about people's perception of Don Mattrick.

 

He was a bloody actual game dev originally! when he started making games at the age of 17 in Canada.

 

Microsoft wanted to pursue their original 'Centre of the Living Room' pipedream they had ever since they got into the games business and thought they had won the console war definitively so could pivot their strategy to do so. Mattrick just enacted that wish after he got given the job. Nobody points to Robbie Bach putting in the original gutting of first party mandate, because reasons.

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On 26/08/2022 at 19:00, StumpyJohn said:

And they'll be lucky if I ever buy a game from them!

I think they will stay at a price point where people will buy them. If they put them up too high people will just stop buying them. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

The PS5s internals have been changed again

 

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All of these changes add up to another weight reduction, but no obvious changes to the exterior of the PS5. The real big change is the updated motherboard in the PS5. It has shrunk by around two inches, and the cooling for the PS5 is slightly different thanks to an additional heat pipe at the rear and a smaller heatsink.

The new motherboard and heatsink on this 2022 PS5 now weighs around 2.5 pounds according to Evans, that’s a pound lighter than the original design.

 

Sounds like they've made the machine cheaper to produce around the same time they've announced a price increase for a lot of markets. I highly doubt people will be rioting in the streets after this revelation but I figured this was the best thread to mention the redesign story. 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

Have you tried different cables?


Several. I’ve even tried turning it off and on again! It hasn’t exactly been an ‘on fire’ issue thus far, but if Sony are going to force me to do it while simultaneously preventing me from doing it, that’s another matter. 

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23 minutes ago, Popo said:


Several. I’ve even tried turning it off and on again! It hasn’t exactly been an ‘on fire’ issue thus far, but if Sony are going to force me to do it while simultaneously preventing me from doing it, that’s another matter. 


Are you using the front USB port? Just for info in case you have one lying around, I often use a Switch Pro Controller cable.

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11 minutes ago, scoobysi said:


Are you using the front USB port? Just for info in case you have one lying around, I often use a Switch Pro Controller cable.


I am indeed, although I’ve also tried the rear ports as well, to no avail. 

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

Do you know anyone IRL with a ps5? Try updating it on their ps5 and see if that fixes the handshake issue with yours.


Sadly not! If push comes to shove I’ll get Sony to fix it I guess. 

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Well!  It gives me no pleasure to report that my controller firmware woes were entirely my own fault.  It turns out all the USB C cables I had were power only, as they didn't work with the computer either, nor did they work with other controllers.  Fortunately I found one of the cables that came with my 8bitdo controller, which works perfectly.

 

Move along, nothing to see here. :facepalm:

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8 minutes ago, Pob said:

How can you tell whether a USB-C cable will work or not?


I don’t think you can, since you can’t see what pins are present.
 

The only reason I knew the 8bitdo one would work - or indeed which of my many USB C cables actually came with the 8bitdo controller - was that it was imprinted with the word 8bitdo, and was provided for the purposes of firmware update and button configuration through a computer. 

 

I could be wrong but I don’t think the one that came with the PS5 had any distinctive marking on it, so it’s now just lost somewhere in the heaving mass of tangled USB cables I own that may or may not support data transfer. 

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On 09/09/2022 at 14:31, Popo said:

Well!  It gives me no pleasure to report that my controller firmware woes were entirely my own fault.  It turns out all the USB C cables I had were power only, as they didn't work with the computer either, nor did they work with other controllers.  Fortunately I found one of the cables that came with my 8bitdo controller, which works perfectly.

 

Move along, nothing to see here. :facepalm:

 

If it makes you feel any better, it took me four different cables before I found the one which came with the console until I had one which did the job.  

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