NVIDIA 4090 $1599 Oct 12 4080 16gb $1199 4080 12gb (basically 4070ti) $899 Nov - stay warm this winter

[davejm]

I'm blown away.  ACC in VR on epic settings, at 130% pixel density and it looks incredible.  I'm actually CPU limited now, with the GPU not even hitting above 90% load and not going over 60 degrees.

 

Downloading Cyberpunk again at the moment.

[SneakyNinja]

5 hours ago, davejm said:

I'm blown away.  ACC in VR on epic settings, at 130% pixel density and it looks incredible.  I'm actually CPU limited now, with the GPU not even hitting above 90% load and not going over 60 degrees.

 

Downloading Cyberpunk again at the moment.

Good to hear  With a bit of luck my new mega PC should here next week. 

[Lying Cat]

1 hour ago, SneakyNinja said:

Good to hear  With a bit of luck my new mega PC should here next week. 

 

Oh god, you didn't accidentally buy an Amstrad Mega PC did you?

 

They're cool and all, but it's going to struggle to run Cyberpunk. Cyber Police ESWAT, maybe...

 

 

[PK]

11 hours ago, Lying Cat said:

 

Oh god, you didn't accidentally buy an Amstrad Mega PC did you?

 

 

I wanted one of those so much at the time, I thought you were going to be able to do stuff like edit Sonic sprites in MS Paint and remix the Strider soundtrack. I was a young dreamer/idiot

[davejm]

Microsoft Flight Sim.... finally 60FPS in VR!  Wowzer!

[PK]

13 minutes ago, davejm said:

Microsoft Flight Sim.... finally 60FPS in VR!  Wowzer!

 

Which headset are you using?

[davejm]

3 minutes ago, PK said:

 

Which headset are you using?

 

Reverb G2. 

 

Grabbed some settings from a YT video and it's amazingly smooth now.  New York does dip down into the 50s sometimes, but the other discovery flights are 65-70 so I just switch to 60hz in the headset and cap at that.

 

This is also with a bit of foveated rendering and some field of view cropping at the top and bottom, in XR Toolkit.  But I can probably disable these for the majority of flying due to the headroom.

[stir fry]

I've been playing a decent amount of Cyberpunk with frame generation, and tbh I think I'm going to leave it off. For some reason, the camera panning on mouse and keyboard looks sort of weird. I can't fully pin down why, but I do know that a 60fps with DLSS2 feels cleaner than 90fps with DLSS3. So I think the technology is still not quite where I'd like it to be, at least for a first person game like Cyberpunk.

 

Maybe it works much better in Witcher.

[HarryBizzle]

What's the sort of use case for a 4090 over say, a 4070 Ti, if playing on a 4K OLED? I'm thoroughly enjoying all this hardware that I'm not personally going to buy by living vicariously through this thread but feel like I need some proper context for what you get from a £1600 GPU that you don't get from a 180,000 Peso one.

[amc]

4K 60 with all of the trimmings. A lot of the time it's a 4k 120 with all of the trimmings card. Probably be that way for the next 12 to 18 months. Not the case with lower teir cards. They're great but not as fire and forget as the 4090. 

 

TBH I'd say its big use point is it's the first 4k 120 RT card. Perhaps the 4080 is the same just for 4k 60.

 

It can handle well beyond 120 of course, that's both frames and Hz. With and without twiddling.

[HarryBizzle]

So if you have a 4070ti, are we talking 4K60 with lower settings or with DLSS? Or a bit of both?

[amc]

Yeah, you can deffo make it work, and work well, with a twiddle. I haven't looked into the other 4XXX, much. 4K is bandwidth and RAM intensive and that's what could hinder the other cards.

 

All the current 4XXX cards are incredibly powerful. I think, as outrageous as the 4090 price is, it's about the pounds to power ratio that currently puts the 4090 as the best proposition.

[Jamie John]

10 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

So if you have a 4070ti, are we talking 4K60 with lower settings or with DLSS? Or a bit of both?

 

I can get 4k60 in RDR2 with most settings turned to Ultra except for some of the various anti-aliasing meters which tank the frame rate at 16x or whatever, and RDR2 on PC is pretty infamous when it comes to performance. I just play it at 1440p, though, on my 4K TV as I can't really notice the difference anyway and I like the AA turned up. It does look *astonishing*, not so much in terms of the textures or the mo-cap as it's a 5 year old game now, but the detail and draw distance is amazing.

[Isaac]

58 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

So if you have a 4070ti, are we talking 4K60 with lower settings or with DLSS? Or a bit of both?

 

A 4090 is about 1.5x as powerful as a 4070ti, for reference.

[amc]

2x the bandwidth, important for 4K, mind.

[HarryBizzle]

1 hour ago, Jamie John said:

 

I can get 4k60 in RDR2 with most settings turned to Ultra except for some of the various anti-aliasing meters which tank the frame rate at 16x or whatever, and RDR2 on PC is pretty infamous when it comes to performance. I just play it at 1440p, though, on my 4K TV as I can't really notice the difference anyway and I like the AA turned up. It does look *astonishing*, not so much in terms of the textures or the mo-cap as it's a 5 year old game now, but the detail and draw distance is amazing.

I do keep meaning to find some lossless video of a maxxed out PC vs Series X/PS5 to see if I can tell the difference. The latter generally looks fine to me but I sit ~8ft from my 65” OLED. 

 

Am I right in thinking a reasonable 3070 Ti build would be around £2K?

[Jamie John]

9 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

Am I right in thinking a reasonable 3070 Ti build would be around £2K?

 

Do you mean a 4070Ti build? You can get those for a lot cheaper than £2k:

 

https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4066891

 

https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4065925

 

A pre-built 4090 system will cost closer to £3k:

 

https://www.hotukdeals.com/share-deal-from-app/4080015

[mushashi]

1 hour ago, HarryBizzle said:

So if you have a 4070ti, are we talking 4K60 with lower settings or with DLSS? Or a bit of both?

 

RTX 4070 Ti isn't going to cut it if 4K is your desired output resolution, unless you think rendering at significantly lower than actual 4K makes it a 4K card. It isn't even marketed as a 4K card, which shows how relatively weak it is.

 

Cyberpunk 2077's RTX Overdrive mode will sort out which GFX cards can call themselves 4K, and I don't fancy anything less than the RTX 4090's chances as even that fails to hit 4K/60fps at maximum settings without even turning on RT. We are nowhere close to a so-called fire&forget GFX card still, unless you think faux resolution and fake frames is an acceptable substitute for £1,600 of outlay. And this is against a PS4 game! Good luck against a late gen PS5 native game.

 

[amc]

Here's the forum's wannabe tech and game expert/reporter. Play a game or two some time.

[layten]

1 hour ago, amc said:

Here's the forum's wannabe tech and game expert/reporter. Play a game or two some time.

All the hot takes from Reddit straight to our screens.

 

Even the current PC version of Cyberpunk is pushing levels of RT the PS5 can only dream about thanks to the underwhelming AMD GPU.

[JoeK]

The thing is: if the thing looks as good as 4k (or whatever native resolution you're playing at), who actually cares?

 

DLSS in most games looks better than native. 

 

At this point in time, the idea of 'native resolution' is fairly archaic. It does not matter in any way, shape or form. 

 

If putting on DLSS means I'm getting the visuals I'm seeing in current PC games, then that doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.

 

 

[davejm]

New case arrived today, so everything transferred over and 5800X3D installed. 

 

Plenty of clearance for the GPU power cable this time, and the extension cables from Amazon work a treat and make it look tidier.

 

First delve into any sort of RGB, having traditionally hated it.  I think I'll turn the brightness down, but it looks really nice so I'm a convert (although I still hate the gharish flashing and pulsing setups you see)...

 

 

 

[JoeK]

What a yummy setup!

 

 

[Opinionated Ham Scarecrow]

Aaaargh, get it off the carpet. It'll basically become a slow hoover for the entire room.

 

Lovely setup though, just raise the pc a bit brother.

[davejm]

8 minutes ago, Opinionated Ham Scarecrow said:

Aaaargh, get it off the carpet. It'll basically become a slow hoover for the entire room.

 

Lovely setup though, just raise the pc a bit brother.

 

Ah yeah, good point.  I didn't think about that.  Especially with the intake fans on the bottom.   

 

I might move it onto the far left of the desk.

[layten]

I bought a little trolly for mine.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09M44Q52D

[AlexM]

11 hours ago, davejm said:

 

I love this layout, is the TV wall mounted? What racing rig is that?

[davejm]

4 hours ago, AlexM said:

 

I love this layout, is the TV wall mounted? What racing rig is that?

 

Cheers! The TV is mounted on an arm, the Ergotron HX.

 

Sim rig is a GT Omega Prime with Fanatec CSL DD, Formula v2.5 rim and Heusinkveld Sprint pedals 👍

[SneakyNinja]

Oooh, after mucho delays due to parts being out of stock, it begins...

 

[PK]

4 hours ago, SneakyNinja said:

Oooh, after mucho delays due to parts being out of stock, it begins...

 

 

I've been really happy with the whole process of getting a system from PCS, hope you have the same experience.

 

I didn't use it thanks to the kind experts in our own building thread, but the option to configure your build, then post it directly to their forums where people will give you advice about airflow, noise etc is a really nice touch. And the system itself has been a dream so far!