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6 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

I can only imagine that Germany are going to absolutely spank England on Monday.


After them losing to Hungary, reckon 0-0 with both teams happy to take a slither of positivity into the World Cup.

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10 minutes ago, bradigor said:

We are getting a private driver to Anfield as guests of one of the players

 

Sorry, context. Our trip ended before it even began as we broke down on the M1. Missy Bo Kearns saw what happened and has organised for us to get driven there on her.

 

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12 hours ago, deerokus said:

Scotland are probably going to get promoted, so we'll be a league above England next time. That's a bit surreal.


It will be like the time when Scotland won 0-0 at Wembley! 
 

In all seriousness ‘relegation’ from a Nations League group is practically a non event. At absolute best it’s the third priority of a national team after performance at tournaments and qualification for those tournaments.  What I like about the Nations League is that it gives you a better idea of where you are in the world rankings and it opens up some interesting pathways for sides that were probably getting screwed by the way nations get seeded (the resurgence of Hungary is a great example) but there’s always the question of how seriously some of the nations take it.  It does feel like England have been coasting through half heartedly and they’ve been embarrassed because there were actual consequences to the poor results but Southgate and the squad have demonstrated they can step up at tournaments.  I’m not confident, but I’m not panicking either. 

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1 hour ago, Naysonymous said:


It will be like the time when Scotland won 0-0 at Wembley! 
 

In all seriousness ‘relegation’ from a Nations League group is practically a non event. At absolute best it’s the third priority of a national team after performance at tournaments and qualification for those tournaments.  What I like about the Nations League is that it gives you a better idea of where you are in the world rankings and it opens up some interesting pathways for sides that were probably getting screwed by the way nations get seeded (the resurgence of Hungary is a great example) but there’s always the question of how seriously some of the nations take it.  It does feel like England have been coasting through half heartedly and they’ve been embarrassed because there were actual consequences to the poor results but Southgate and the squad have demonstrated they can step up at tournaments.  I’m not confident, but I’m not panicking either. 


It would be stupid to write England off, especially in a knock out format. 

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3 hours ago, Naysonymous said:

In all seriousness ‘relegation’ from a Nations League group is practically a non event. At absolute best it’s the third priority of a national team after performance at tournaments and qualification for those tournaments.

 

Going further, relegation can be a blessing in disguise depending on when it occurs. If you're in a lower league prior to the Euro qualifying campaign, you can cement a playoff place before you've even kicked a ball in qualifiers proper. Though that matters less to sides in the top tier who are virtually guaranteed that playoff anyway on ranking alone.

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9 hours ago, spork said:

Never mind being relegated, I imagine it will all kick off when we get knocked out of the World Cup in the group stages by Wales and USA.


We’ll scrap through and then lose to the first decent side we play, as per the last 4 years.

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Disappointed to lose that, and disappointed with the manner of the defeat (a moment of madness from Browne) but that's where the disappointment ends, really. An entertaining game, Scotland deserved to come back into it and were the better team over the second half compared to Ireland edging the first. Hendry's header was inch perfect into the corner, can't fault that at all, and they seemed to cope with Ogbene much better after his first few minutes on the pitch where he really threatened.

 

There were fine margins. Doherty danced through at the start of the second half and his pass to Parrott was just pushed a little too far. Parrott himself should have scored, Ogbene had little time to react to Gordon's miskick, Doherty himself fluffed his lines after cutting inside to create a good chance. At the other end, Doherty did brilliantly to deny McTominay a simple header from a yard out, and there was some stout defending, but plenty of room for improvement. Bazunu didn't really put a glove wrong.

 

Faint notions of topping the group were out the window with Ukraine's 5-0 win in Armenia earlier, which further hammers home how much work Ireland gave themselves with that initial defeat. They've proven themselves capable of competing with Scotland and Ukraine, and shouldn't be thinking of Tuesday's match as a relegation battle. But that's what it is.

 

Could be worse, like. They could be already relegated and going into a festival of human rights abuse without scoring a goal from open play since records began while their country burns. I'll take the little things.

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More international football in the MSG Prime Minister's Cup, a tournament for nations in Melanesia. I only bring it up because Vanuatu, the hosts, fielded two sides in the six-team tournament, were drawn into the same group as their B team, and finished below them.

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