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Boothjan

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I've had enough of Bruno Lage now - our squad is so much better than the results we've seen not just this season but the final 1/3 of last season too.

 

I don't think he's got anywhere near the tactical nous you need in this league, we rarely look like scoring and his substitutions are almost always poor. And we're not particularly good to watch either. 

 

Our owners look like they've started to splash the cash in the transfer market after a quiet few years - we've spent a lot this summer with some exciting players arriving - I don't think they'll tolerate much more mediocrity. The talent we have deserves better coaching. 

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8 minutes ago, Boothjan said:

I've had enough of Bruno Lage now - our squad is so much better than the results we've seen not just this season but the final 1/3 of last season too.

 

I don't think he's got anywhere near the tactical nous you need in this league, we rarely look like scoring and his substitutions are almost always poor. And we're not particularly good to watch either. 

 

Our owners look like they've started to splash the cash in the transfer market after a quiet few years - we've spent a lot this summer with some exciting players arriving - I don't think they'll tolerate much more mediocrity. The talent we have deserves better coaching. 

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1 hour ago, Fry Crayola said:

 

I've noticed this before where a player is commonly known by a nickname or shortening of his full name, and they use the whole surname (or surnames) instead.

 

Same thing here with Fabio Carvalho yesterday: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62614438

Arguably also applies to Furuhashi who is usually known as Kyogo but I don't think that's his 'official' stage name as it were.

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Portuguese names are often really long.   A child can have four surnames, two from the mother's side  and two from the fathers.   I worked with a Portuguese guy, he said his mom had six surnames because as well as the ones she took from her parents she took two from her husband (his dad) too.  No wonder they often use nicknames! 

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9 hours ago, Chindie said:

 

He's not a very good manager.

 

He has a single tactic, which doesn't work and is spectacularly easy to exploit 

 

It worked for Rangers because he could realistically expect to have the best team, by a distance, in 99% of matches, and the season he won the league Celtic went off the boil.

 

In England, he's basically never got the best team. He had a new manager bounce and a few times we've played decent football but too often it completely fails.

 

I also suspect his man management is diabolical. Certainly he has favourites - he drops Buendia all the time when he's the only player that reliably creates anything, he made McGinn captain for some reason who has been dire but will not be dropped... And so on.

 

He's shit.

It's forgotten now, but they were in diabolical form and Rangers were probably going to sack him if they had lost the next derby game when the pandemic shut everything down. That season was curtailed, which saved him and lead to an extended break, then in the next season Celtic were as atrocious as I've ever seen us and Rangers found form while playing without the pressure of fans or having anyone chasing them. That was the only trophy he won his entire time there - Ange has more already. Also that Michael Beale guy was supposedly the tactical mind.

 

He's not a good manager, Rangers have been much more effective with Van Bronckhorst really, can't argue with how well they're doing in Europe.

 

On that note, about 6 of these goals are really nice. Poor opposition and all but still

 

 

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10 hours ago, deerokus said:

It's forgotten now, but they were in diabolical form and Rangers were probably going to sack him if they had lost the next derby game when the pandemic shut everything down. That season was curtailed, which saved him and lead to an extended break, then in the next season Celtic were as atrocious as I've ever seen us and Rangers found form while playing without the pressure of fans or having anyone chasing them. That was the only trophy he won his entire time there - Ange has more already. Also that Michael Beale guy was supposedly the tactical mind.

 

He's not a good manager, Rangers have been much more effective with Van Bronckhorst really, can't argue with how well they're doing in Europe.

 

On that note, about 6 of these goals are really nice. Poor opposition and all but still

 

 

 

I get why we took a chance on Gerrard. He had had success in Scotland (even if you have to heavily caveat it...) and was going to make the move to England soon enough, and his name still carried a lot of weight.

 

But it was always a huge gamble, because of those caveats - he was in a 2 horse race he usually came second in, every week he had the best XI, and the year he won Celtic fell apart...

 

And the gamble clearly hasn't paid off. We're terrible. We lost to Bournemouth handily - a team that has conceded 16 goals since that match. Everton are awful but they nearly nicked a point from us. Crystal Palace blew us away. West Ham are poor at the moment, but 1 change of formation lead them to dominate us in second half and rewarded them with a lucky goal. Our performances are awful and the tactics are (literally) playground stuff. We've barely strengthened and of the 2 big signings we've made one has blown his Achilles up and will struggle to play again this season.

 

Everyone says Beale was the brains of the operation - he jumped as soon as he had chance, and we were shit even when he was around. His replacement, Neil Critchley, didn't even go on our preseason tour. The only highlight has been in the new manager bounce period, which lasted about a month, and since then we've shite.

 

I believe when we get battered by Arsenal and Citeh, Gerrard will have the worst losing percentage of any manager in our history.

 

He should be sacked immediately, Critchley can get tonked by Arsenal and Citeh and we can spend the next fortnight persuading an actual manager to rescue us. Hopefully they can see the ability in the squad, the great facilities, and the finances and think they've got a chance to make something great.

 

If Gerrard isn't sacked, we're going down.

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20 hours ago, Naysonymous said:

 

 

Turns out his tactic at Rangers was to have the 11 best players on the pitch.   


That certainly wasn’t the case when he did fucking brilliant with us in Europe, where he laid the foundations for the third best team in Scotland at the time going on to make the Europa League final 4 years later or whatever it was.

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Who'd have thought an egotist like Gerrard might be a shit manager?

 

As for the criticism of Critchley not going on tour, wasn't the situation complicated by COVID vaccination status? Or was that another club?

 

And as for Beale jumping as soon as he could, he was offered the chance to manage a Championship club in QPR and they looked pretty good at points last season. Any coach with aspirations, would take the same decision without taking into account the likely increased salary.

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Critchley didn't go on the Australia tour because he didn't have a passport. It's just a shit thing all round and one of those things that makes everyone look a bit stupid.

 

I don't begrudge Beale taking the opportunity at QPR. It's just not a great look when your supposedly great assistant manager who is the smart guy behind the sales front manager, jumps ship 6 months after joining. It's not a confidence builder. Even if he wasn't exactly setting the earth on fire.

 

It all combines to make the club look like a circus. Which is completely bizarre because by all accounts when Gerrard joined we were pretty buttoned up off the pitch, besides a lot of last minute coaching staff upheaval during Smith's last preseason.

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4 hours ago, englishbob said:

This is what you get. We can't condone it, but this is what you get

 

Hilarious sport 

 

 


It’s indicative of the attitude of football punditry that they are defending Richarlison  getting booted up in the air for doing a bit of harmless showboating during public entertainment. If they are happy to see him getting a reducer then it should be the

more often occurrence of him being a petulant play-acting prick.

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52 minutes ago, bradigor said:

They also ignored it being an ex red on an ex blue which might have played into it a bit.

I presume you mean Neco? He just fell on him, it was Johnson that took Richarlison out. 

 

I'm not even sure there was a link to the manner in which Johnson went in, as Richarlison was receiving the ball again after his little bit of showboating.

 

Either way, it was amusing considering him holding his plums about 5 minutes after possibly being kicked there.

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I think it's extremely tough on Parker, personally. I don't particularly rate him as a manager, but we're four games into the season. The last thing he did before those four games was get his side promoted from the Championship - a notoriously difficult thing to do.  Bournemouth won their first game and since then have lost to Man City, Arsenal, and Liverpool, three of the best teams in the league.  They've been hammered in all three of course, particularly the Liverpool game, but is it surprising to see a promoted team get battered by the Champions League contender teams, especially early in the season?

 

I suspect he's really been sacked for saying they need signings, for trying to put some pressure on the owner to spend money. It stinks.

 

 

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"“However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now. Our search for a new head coach will begin immediately.”"

 

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42 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

I think it's extremely tough on Parker, personally. I don't particularly rate him as a manager, but we're four games into the season. The last thing he did before those four games was get his side promoted from the Championship - a notoriously difficult thing to do.  Bournemouth won their first game and since then have lost to Man City, Arsenal, and Liverpool, three of the best teams in the league.  They've been hammered in all three of course, particularly the Liverpool game, but is it surprising to see a promoted team get battered by the Champions League contender teams, especially early in the season?

 

I suspect he's really been sacked for saying they need signings, for trying to put some pressure on the owner to spend money. It stinks.

 

 

While I do think it's ridiculous sacking a manager this early on Parker has always been a manager that's rubbed people up the wrong way. At Fulham he played pretty boring football and complained about the board constantly despite having a fair bit of money spent on players he specifically wanted. He failed to get anything out of Mitrovic in the Premier League and got a team that definitely had the quality to stay up relegated with time to spare. He then left for Bournemouth and bizarrely demanded Fulham pay the last year of his contract despite him wanting to leave, which we obviously did not do. 

 

He also had a lot of money thrown at promotion last year buying and loaning players specifically built to succeed in the championship. And then it's similar to what happened at Fulham. The team are built for the championship so can't do it in the prem. And while you've got Everton and Villa stinking the league up and Sean Dyche still available you don't want to wait too long to miss out on someone who seems pretty suited to succeeding with Championship level players. 

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