Football thread 2022/23

[bradigor]

Really good to see BT putting a couple of the mid table teams on live for once 

[JamesTW]

Steven Gerrard just said its important Jude Bellingham stays in England 

[bradigor]

Please completely scrap the offside rule. We got away with one there 

[Timmo]

Chelsea should spend some money.

 

Hope their new guy comes on soon just to add a bit of interest to this shit. This must be the worst Liverpool Prem starting line up in a number of years.

[glb]

Lampard’s ideas are really starting to take shape. Everton need to be smart and give him more time to see them through.

[Baring]

On 19/01/2023 at 20:47, dizogg said:

So Man City with Haaland are a worse team, I think?

Might split opinion but I think Kane would suit them better. The way he drops and links up play would have been devastating. 

[Art Vandelay]

It’s amazing the amount of rope Lampard is given. He’s a demonstrably bad manager who’s sending that team into oblivion, but there’s always a queue of ex-pros ready to tell you it’s definitely not his fault. I guarantee you if that squad of mid table players was actually sat in mid table you wouldn’t be seeing execs in headlocks and embarrassing doggerel protest poetry scrawled on bed sheets in the ground. 

[Plissken]

21 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

there’s always a queue of ex-pros ready to tell you it’s definitely not his fault

 

He played with half of them, and hangs out with the rest.

[glb]

20 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

It’s amazing the amount of rope Lampard is given. He’s a demonstrably bad manager who’s sending that team into oblivion, but there’s always a queue of ex-pros ready to tell you it’s definitely not his fault. I guarantee you if that squad of mid table players was actually sat in mid table you wouldn’t be seeing execs in headlocks and embarrassing doggerel protest poetry scrawled on bed sheets in the ground. 

He’s got influence and connections in the game. No matter how useless he is as a manager, and he’s up there with some of the worst in recent memory, he’ll always have a gig in football if he wants one.
 

He’s stepped into a perfect storm at Everton though. They’ve been a shambles for years, with some questionable goings on off-the-pitch to boot. Their new stadium costs jumped from £300m to £500m to £750m and they’ve barely got a pot to piss in as it is.

 

Still, I’m sure they’ll pull the trigger on Lampard’s tenure and fudge their way out of relegation like they’ve done in the past.

[Mr Do 71]

Plus the southern softie press adore him (and Gerrard) like when they obsessed over them being in midfield for England, over the greatest midfielder of his generation Scholes (who was relegated to having to play on the fucking left wing) because both of them didn’t play for United.

 

I will never forgive the fucking press for this crime.

[dizogg]

3 minutes ago, Mr Do 71 said:

Plus the southern softie press adore him (and Gerrard) like when they obsessed over them being in midfield for England, over the greatest midfielder of his generation Scholes (who was relegated to having to play on the fucking left wing) because both of them didn’t play for United.

 

I will never forgive the fucking press for this crime.

Not that you’re bitter or anything! Scholes is a great player but arguably not on Lampard’s level and definitely not on Gerrard’s.
 

Also what it’s got to do with him playing with United I don’t know? There were plenty of other United players in the team at the time.

[Plissken]

1 hour ago, glb said:

He’s stepped into a perfect storm at Everton though. They’ve been a shambles for years, with some questionable goings on off-the-pitch to boot.

If Lampard was half as smart as he thinks he is, he wouldn’t have taken the job in the first place.

 

But then Everton might not have got preferential treatment from the Premier League to help them stay up.

[davidcotton]

1 hour ago, Plissken said:

If Lampard was half as smart as he thinks he is, he wouldn’t have taken the job in the first place.

 

But then Everton might not have got preferential treatment from the Premier League to help them stay up.

Everyone thought Lampard was nailed on for the Norwich job before Smith. Wonder if he would have been better advised taking that one at the time.  

[skadupuk]

Just back from Selhurst

 

God knows how Newcastle are 3rd, they were shite, stats suggest a decent amount of shots but every single one was pretty tame and straight at Guaita.

 

Palace continue with no goals from open play, we have a lot of issues and lack strength in central midfield a solid RB and a consistent striker.

 

 

[Mr Do 71]

6 minutes ago, skadupuk said:

Just back from Selhurst

 

God knows how Newcastle are 3rd, they were shite, stats suggest a decent amount of shots but every single one was pretty tame and straight at Guaita.

 

Palace continue with no goals from open play, we have a lot of issues and lack strength in central midfield a solid RB and a consistent striker.

 

 

Don’t forget Zaha’s new dodgy haircut, which looked like he should be starting in The Munsters not on a football pitch.

[JamesTW]

3 hours ago, Mr Do 71 said:

Plus the southern softie press adore him (and Gerrard) like when they obsessed over them being in midfield for England, over the greatest midfielder of his generation Scholes (who was relegated to having to play on the fucking left wing) because both of them didn’t play for United.

 

I will never forgive the fucking press for this crime.

This only actually happened in Euro 2004, Scholes was a different generation and had his chance in 1998 & 2002

[Naysonymous]

Scholes was born November 74, Lampard June 78 and Gerrard May 1980.  It’s a three and a half year age gap between Scholes & Lampard, and a two year gap between Lampard & Gerrard. The different generation thing isn’t quite there but football has changed a lot in recent years, certainly post 2010. Scholes fell foul to the (English?) obsession with box to box midfielders. These days wide players tend to be the ones who get into the area and central midfield favours neat and tidy players. 
 

If he’d been Spanish or he’d been around today then he’d have found international football more willing to play to his strengths. 

[footle]

2 hours ago, Naysonymous said:

Scholes was born November 74, Lampard June 78 and Gerrard May 1980.  It’s a three and a half year age gap between Scholes & Lampard, and a two year gap between Lampard & Gerrard. The different generation thing isn’t quite there but football has changed a lot in recent years, certainly post 2010. Scholes fell foul to the (English?) obsession with box to box midfielders. These days wide players tend to be the ones who get into the area and central midfield favours neat and tidy players. 
 

If he’d been Spanish or he’d been around today then he’d have found international football more willing to play to his strengths. 

 

Also, which one won the most stuff?

[Mr Do 71]

 

[Art Vandelay]

Gary Neville, I am begging you, please shut up.

[Hamus]

Haaland has scored more goals than Chelsea.

 

And 8 other teams.

[ryodi]

This match makes up for the three goalless draws I’ve watched live this weekend. 

[wev]

This is Saka v Rashford, both just brilliant

[Ork1927]

Got to bring on Troussard surely

[glb]

Awww, poor Manchester United, they won the league only last week.

[Chewylegs]

Isnt this the emoji for when a win between two sides has nothing to do with you?

[feltmonkey]

What a great match. Arsenal deserved the win. I'm pleased with how United battled even though that winning goal is absolutely gutting. Casemiro might have made a difference.

 

Nobody with any sense thought United were going to win the league, by the way.

[JamesTW]

7 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

Nobody with any sense thought United were going to win the league, by the way.

LFC fan, I was starting to get worried this time last week! I still think Arsenal will blow it and City win it

[BabelRich]

 

[Timmo]

I feel like if Arsenal win their next 3 (City at home being the 3rd) then they will do it. Big ask, though.

 

City have been bad away from home for a while but you still feel like they could go on a run of 15 wins. I do think Zinchenko is a bigger miss than most thought, though, he was the best player on the pitch today.