She-Hulk: Attorney at Law series coming to Disney + 17th August

[DeciderVT]

12 hours ago, Benny said:

Incidentally, I've never seen Orphan Black - is it worth a punt?

 

I'm watching it for the first time now and it became a fast favourite in our house. We're up to the end of the second series. It's compulsive fluff but Maslany is absolutely magnificent in it, she just disappears into every character. When I watched She-Hulk this week I just couldn't make the connection that Jen was the same actor who had played Cosima, Alison, etc.

[Popo]

Another fun episode, especially the awful bride character, who was just awful, however - one invokes Bridesmaids at one’s own peril. 

[Gabe]

I'm only seen up to episode 5, but this has been good fun. There's a comment @Benny made a few weeks ago (only just caught up on the thread) and I was coming here to post something similar, that

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the joke in episode 3 about the cameos was funny - but then it has so far played into that a bit too much, rather than letting Jen have her own space, problems and resolutions.

 

Likewise, as much as the dream team of Wong and Madysnn was fun, it was still taking screen time away from the lead - and in a show that usually runs about 20 minutes or so, it does seem a bit of a shame. I don't know whether it's because the production team didn't feel she could carry the series without those hooks (she totally could), or whether they want to start building Wong out for the wider MCU, but hopefully the focus gets back more on Jen in the remaining episodes.

 

I do still think the CGI is awful and distracting though - and that's one of the reasons I'd be happy if they don't ever have a big punch-up (and I don't think the show needs it, either).

 

What is next for Jen after this series, is she confirmed in any of the future films?

[SMD]

All the TV shows link into the upcoming film slate, yes.

[Mr. Gerbik]

With regards to the cameos and comedic tone, this show is exactly like the most popular She-Hulk comic runs. It's as much about her, as it is about highlighting the absurdity of Marvel characters that are otherwise played completely serious in other comics.

 

In other shows and movies, it's probably going to play out similar to the comics. In her own series she breaks the 4th wall and there's a comedic tone, but in other comics she's a regular Marvel superhero character. Still the same person, but she won't be talking to the audience in the Avengers movie for example. In the comics she was also a member of both the Avengers and the Fantastic Four for a long time fwiw.

[Stevie]

On 18/05/2022 at 03:54, Festoon said:

Maslany is an amazing actor so hopefully that'll help. 

 

Hopefully it's not Ally McBeal.

I remember enjoying She-Hulk as a kid in the 80’s. From what I remember She-Hulk was quite sassy and pretty much the opposite of McBeal. 
 

[Gabe]

Just watched the wedding episode (for some reason I thought I was 2 behind) and thought it was all a bit dull and lacking any real laughs too. Best bit was probably the 4th-wall break at the start.

 

And this is of course overthinking, but

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I don't understand how Mr Immortal's acts of escapism were meant to actually help him get out of marriages? He immediately regenerates - we both see this and are told it by one of his ex-wives - so it seems no different to just walking out of a house and never going back. Just feels a bit clumsy (both in terms of that plot strand and the thinking behind it.) And yes, it's throwaway fun, but still...

 

What was the significance of the last scene (which I presume is villain set-up)?

[Uncle Mike]

He's trying to argue that he's briefly legally dead and therefore they have no legal claim over his assets.

[JohnC]

Maybe I'm misremembering, but none of them knew about the regeneration until that last one saw it and figured things out, contacting all the previous widows to bring him to justice?

[Gabe]

8 minutes ago, Uncle Mike said:

He's trying to argue that he's briefly legally dead and therefore they have no legal claim over his assets.

 

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Maybe I'm misremembering, but none of them knew about the regeneration until that last one saw it and figured things out, contacting all the previous widows to bring him to justice?

 

Yeah, but (more overthinking)

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How can that even be argued as a defence without anyone able to pronounce him dead, if only for a second? One of the wives mentions he 'accidentally took a cyanide pill', so he takes it, is on the ground for a second and then just gets up, says "See ya late!" and hoofs it out the door? Or, on the basis as @JohnC correctly says, none of the other wives knew about the regeneration, how did he even get away with that? He stayed "dead" for a bit, then woke up in the ambulance/mortuary/whatever and then hoofed it? Somebody would mention that to the widow, you'd think.

The more I think about it, the more stupid it is - but not the fun kind of stupid, just stupid.

 

I suppose I'm only really picking up on it because they didn't even have to do any lawyering to resolve it (and we again have somebody committing a crime - a la episode 3 - getting away with it. Though I don't really care about that aspect.) This episode just didn't really do it for me and was the weakest so far, is all.

 

On a wider note, this series has been interesting for introducing and normalising super-powered people in everyday life in the universe, all without any comment - to the point that the setting-up of a superhero legal division is just accepted as being a thing worth doing to make some bank. Do you think there will ever be any kind of explanation for this? I'm not saying it necessarily needs one, but I wonder is this laying the groundwork for when we suddenly get a load of mutants joining the fun in a few years (by which I mean that mutants existing will be as normalised and accepted as super-powered people have been here)?

[Uncle Mike]

I dunno. It all seemed logical enough to me.

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He's been being a cunt, he thinks he might have found a tiny legal loophole to mitigate that (if he can prove he briefly does, probably we all roughly understand enough law from terrible TV to believe that this might lessen any claim his exes have over his estate.)

 

Then the lawyers, knowing this is likely a weak defence at best, not sympathising with him, but doing a lawyer's job, work to obtain a settlement that avoids it all going to court - which is exactly what a lawyer would do.

 

And it doesn't need to make 100% sense anyway. It's about a guy who's immortal.

[Sidewaysbob]

If he dies then hoofs it, they don't know that he then remarries and does it again. 

I think that was why they were all angry about it. 

[Girth Certificate]

I kinda hope the last few eps will just be Shulk ripping incels and 4chan chuds in half and laughing about it. and then banging the Juggernaut

[Benny]

I think ripping into incels is probably one of the things I'm least interested in the show doing. It's such ridiculously easy and obvious low hanging fruit, when it would be so much more interesting to tackle the white male power structure in say, the company she works for, given the attitude of her boss etc. Or maybe even in the field of the superhero clique itself? Imagine.

[Girth Certificate]

I mean literally, like the doomslayer,  Or the Sentry (possible spoilers for a marvel movie in like 2025 or some shit)

 

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SPLURT

 

 

Anyhoo this weeks episode was pretty cute although 

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a broken car doesn't seem like something that would prevent her from Hulk bouncing home. And a sensible person might have asked the crowbar dude why him and the rest of the Wrecking Crue decided to attack her.

 

[Sabreman]

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Pity the "Previously On" bit completely gave away the reveal at the end, by juxtaposing the people out to get her blood with Nice Guy Josh at the wedding.

 

[Benny]

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Told you Josh was a creep!

 

Hate Josh. The boring fuck.

 

[Benny]

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I agree with the show: Jen IS great! So I would love it if the show put that meta commentary on itself and its audience into practice and never have Jen hulking out for the rest of the series. Now that would be daring! It would also say something about talking control of the narrative that Jen hasn't had the opportunity to do yet.

 

But I don't see that happening alas.

 

Rest of the episode was okay, if a bit on the silly side.

 

[Jammy]

Really liked that episode - Jen being all bouncy at the beginning really cheered me up. Enjoying what Tim Roth is doing on this too.

[Girth Certificate]

Where were all his wives though?

[JohnC]

I like the continuing parade of

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low-key supes.

 

[LaveDisco]

I really liked that episode. It was wonderful And heartfelt. And did that wonderful thing that comedies can do where they tackle something deep without it having to be high drama.   
 

And I love the fact they basically just got a bunch of problematic marvel nerds to 

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Sit through a therapy session

 

[jonamok]

That was lovely. And another quality 4th wall break.

[cassidy]

2 hours ago, Girth Certificate said:

Where were all his wives though?

You didn't pay attention to the credits after his parole hearing. 

[makkuwata]

Continue to love these.

[Girth Certificate]

5 hours ago, cassidy said:

You didn't pay attention to the credits after his parole hearing. 

where they were all chasing his prison bus thing? Had he abandoned them?

[cassidy]

2 hours ago, Girth Certificate said:

where they were all chasing his prison bus thing? Had he abandoned them?

Yeah that's what it looks like. 

[monkeydog]

I enjoyed the rubbish inspirational quotes at the walls of the group therapy room.

[BabelRich]

Abomaste

[makkuwata]

15 hours ago, makkuwata said:

Continue to love these.

Looks like the usual suspects have been responding predictably.

 

I hate the internet.