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Specialised Controllers on Retroarch, MAME, etc


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I haved been tinkering for a while with my PC emulation setup. The latest thing is using my Pandora Box as an arcade stick on the PC. Windows picks it up as 2 different controllers, which is perfect. 

 

However trying to get it all working consistently with MAME and the likes is proving a pain. Has anyone done anything similar?

 

I've manually setup the stick in RA like so...

 

Port 1

 

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Port 2

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Which is fine, but I also like to use my wireless Series S controller for other systems. When I do that, it sometimes (not always) messes up the above config.

 

Can I do a per system override? So when MAME is running it defaults to P1 or P2 using the Pandora sticks, but other systems use my Series S controller when that is on?

 

Then to complecate things further. I have games like Super Sprint, etc which don't use the sticks. Can I set those per game to default to other peripherals?

 

 

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Both retroarch and mame have config hierarchies (i.e. game > system > global) so you can override any setting at any level. The process for this always seems more complicated than it should be to me, but if you check their respective wiki's it will have details of how to do this. I'm assuming retroarch can do per system configs, never tried it.

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1 hour ago, phresh said:

Both retroarch and mame have config hierarchies (i.e. game > system > global) so you can override any setting at any level. The process for this always seems more complicated than it should be to me, but if you check their respective wiki's it will have details of how to do this. I'm assuming retroarch can do per system configs, never tried it.

 

Perfect, think I found how to do it. 

 

So some more advice, if possible. It is I think a 6-button dual stick. So what would you suggest for mapping?

 

Would this work?

 

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It varies by game really, some are fine like that, some are better with

 

lb -x -rb

y -b -a

 

Stuff like f-zero where the shoulder buttons have symmetrical usage works better with the above. I would stick with yours and just change any games that need it.

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Ah I think I worked out my main problem. I had the stick plugged into a USB hjub with three other controllers and my wireless Series S controller also on. I reset everything it Retroarch and plugged the stick in on its own direct to the PC. So just need to remember to only have that plugged in when going to play MAME. 

 

Although tempted to try and set up my son's wheel for Daytona, etc

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On 30/12/2021 at 21:59, bradigor said:

 

Perfect, think I found how to do it. 

 

So some more advice, if possible. It is I think a 6-button dual stick. So what would you suggest for mapping?

 

Would this work?

 

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Is this a retro arch screen? How do you navigate to it?

 

I've had the same problem with controllers. My ridiculous solution is to install retro arch multiple times to different locations. Therefore my controller configs remain separate.

 

I gave up trying to config my N64 controller / usb adapter. For whatever reason I couldn't get anything right with it.

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The controller layout is something i did in Photoshop. 

 

I think most of my issues is the amount of controllers I have in one hub as I have to reconfigure in Dolphin every time it seems as it loses my controllers if they get unplugged at any point.

 

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USB enumeration is a pain as there is no fixed order it happens in. MAME can do it using device id’s, don’t know if retroarch can too. Translating any input devices into key presses can work to an extent, but not sure it will fix all the issues.

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While it might be overkill, Dolphin can work directly with the GC multi tap released for the Wii U, removing any need for controller config etc. Required the multi tap and GC pads though so may not be the cheapest option if you don’t have some of the bits already.

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I need something I can put the stink on that can be folded up for storage as we have very little space. Does anyone have a recommendation for a table?

 

We'll be sitting on a sofa to play. 

 

Seen something like this, but doesn't seem wide enough. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RockJam-Projector-Temporary-Standing-Textured/dp/B077V2VC7P/ref=asc_df_B077V2VC7P/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310813294550&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7519542151095846666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006621&hvtargid=pla-564229609641&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

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Probably the Ultimarc U-Trak - https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/products/UTrak-Trackball.html

 

Comes with a USB interface, but no case unfortunately. You can get cheaper, smaller ones but they aren't great for the more 'aggressive' trackball games like Golden Tee. You can adjust the sensitivity on MAME to reduce the amount of force required though.

 

I could probably knock up a wooden box for one of these while i'm working on some other projects in the spring if you did want to go for one. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, phresh said:

Probably the Ultimarc U-Trak - https://www.arcadeworlduk.com/products/UTrak-Trackball.html

 

Comes with a USB interface, but no case unfortunately. You can get cheaper, smaller ones but they aren't great for the more 'aggressive' trackball games like Golden Tee. You can adjust the sensitivity on MAME to reduce the amount of force required though.

 

I could probably knock up a wooden box for one of these while i'm working on some other projects in the spring if you did want to go for one. 

 

 

 

That's the one I am looking at, but wasn't sure if I could plug in direct to PC. So good to know. I'll let you know if I do pick it up a box would be awesome :) 

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