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8 hours ago, Sarlaccfood said:


Sony themselves have done PS+ discounts for Black Friday in the past, so deffo worth waiting till then if you can. 

Good advice, mine doesn’t run out until the end of Nov anyway so hopefully something will happen during BF £99 seems a lot in one go but then it’s only £30 dearer than one game these days. 

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43 minutes ago, MansizeRooster said:

At this stage I wouldn't go near the top tier. Sony have utterly failed to deliver PS1 and PS2 games on multiple months so far, and the retro game organisation is a completely disorganised shambles.

And this is the advice I would give anyone, but then my fear of missing out kicks in, or feeling like I need to have everything. Definitely something I need to address because I currently have 4 subscriptions just for gaming services. 
 

How much is the tier below Premium? 

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The PSN needs to stop labelling retro games as PS4/5, and label it as PS1/PS2. Having a PS5-specific emulator is utter madness, they only need a PS4 one. Under the hood the emulator/games can be PS4 apps, but they should absolutely be labelled as PS1 or PS2.

 

Also, given what we're paying for, I'd expect PS1, PS2 and PS3 to be getting a minimum of 5 new games each month.

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Lol, that’s hilarious! Especially give  that the basic service didn’t even change yet they managed to confuse the fuck out of everyone that was already subscribing to it.


edit - oh I see that the actual details paint a different picture. Number of subscribers were already declining and this was part of a continuing trend, but revenue is up implying that plenty of people are paying for the new service.

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I think if you look at Microsoft's challenge around growing Gamepass and add in the growing cost of living crisis and subscription fatigue in multiple industries, it demonstrates the difficulty for any platform trying to push this kind of service.

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8 minutes ago, David Kenny said:

Sony have obviously cottoned on to the fact that fewer people who pay a lot more is better than a load of people paying next to nothing, i.e. the Candy Crush model. That's probably not good news for us cheapskates.

 

That depends, if you're a platform owner you probably want more people paying next to nothing because the more time they spend on your platform is less time spent on the competition.

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1 hour ago, David Kenny said:

Sony have obviously cottoned on to the fact that fewer people who pay a lot more is better than a load of people paying next to nothing, i.e. the Candy Crush model. That's probably not good news for us cheapskates.


that’s been clear since the launch of the generation.

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2 hours ago, David Kenny said:

Sony have obviously cottoned on to the fact that fewer people who pay a lot more is better than a load of people paying next to nothing, i.e. the Candy Crush model. That's probably not good news for us cheapskates.

 

I don't think this is a good model at all for the holder of the platform. Their ideal is to continue to be the dominant force in gaming. It strikes me that more people paying to be in their eco system is better than fewer paying less. More people generate more hype. More people attract their friends to the same platform.

 

I guess we'll see. In simple terms I'd say falling number of subscribers for PSN is bad. I'd say the fact that it has only continued to fall since them relaunching/changing the service is also bad. Surely they wanted a bump right? I'm not sure they should have expected one really given the rather tepid offering (and lack of ongoing retro or newer games being added).

 

As for Candy Crush... That one game made $1.2 billion in revenue last year form app stores. Sony's whole gaming and network services division revenue was $24.4 billion. I'd say the Candy Crush model works okay. Not that that I think they're actually comparable at all.

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Think both Sony and Microsoft are facing problems with these services. Gamepass is ludicrously good value at just over £100 for 3yrs but, currently loads of people don’t even know they can get it at that price. When that pricing “loophole” eventually ends, and it seems like it could be sooner rather than later, I think they’ll see the numbers of subscribers dwindling. They also don’t have the big, quality, first party games, day and date to drive the service or even for people to buy, who don’t subscribe to the service.

 

Sony’s pricing is currently more realistic and what we can expect in future from both companies. However, the AAA, big budget, high development cost games are what drive their sales, so putting them straight onto their service makes poor financial sense........which then means that many people don’t want to fork out for those high cost, big budget games and a subscription service. Its one or the other, not both.

 

I’ve had PS Plus since getting my PS4. This will be the first year I’m considering ending it. Times have changed, the gaming landscape has changed. I have no interest in buying games and subscribing to a service, both on the same console. Makes no sense. I will buy Sony’s big games here and there, whilst enjoying the rest of my incredibly cheap 3yr Gamepass sub. 😁
 

For me, the crazily cheap price of Gamepass, has basically killed any desire to buy games outright on any platform. Only title that I will fork out for is the new Zelda. So yeah, because of Gamepass I don’t buy games anymore and Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have lost my money. 

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7 hours ago, thesnwmn said:

 

I don't think this is a good model at all for the holder of the platform. Their ideal is to continue to be the dominant force in gaming. It strikes me that more people paying to be in their eco system is better than fewer paying less. More people generate more hype. More people attract their friends to the same platform.

 

I guess we'll see. In simple terms I'd say falling number of subscribers for PSN is bad. I'd say the fact that it has only continued to fall since them relaunching/changing the service is also bad. Surely they wanted a bump right? I'm not sure they should have expected one really given the rather tepid offering (and lack of ongoing retro or newer games being added).

 

As for Candy Crush... That one game made $1.2 billion in revenue last year form app stores. Sony's whole gaming and network services division revenue was $24.4 billion. I'd say the Candy Crush model works okay. Not that that I think they're actually comparable at all.

I wrote that with my tongue in my cheek. I don't think it's a good model either. Although I'd say the console is what brings users into the Sony "eco-system" rather than PS+.

 

The Candy Crush comparison is because a tiny number of users actually spend money on Candy Crush, but they spend a lot.

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This is why I rarely play ‘big’ games on PS Now, Game Pass, or this new service. You could be in the middle of a game and it just disappears. That’s fine when it’s a film on Netflix, which takes 2 hours to watch before it disappears in a couple of weeks, but most games take dozens of hours to finish.

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12 minutes ago, Paulando said:

This is why I rarely play ‘big’ games on PS Now, Game Pass, or this new service. You could be in the middle of a game and it just disappears. That’s fine when it’s a film on Netflix, which takes 2 hours to watch before it disappears in a couple of weeks, but most games take dozens of hours to finish.

 

Happened to me with WRC10, I was 95% complete after months of play and the game just stopped working because it was removed with no indication or warning given to me.

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36 minutes ago, SozzlyJoe said:

 

Yeah, and now I remember it was GTA3 that was on before, VC was the Gamepass freebie. The ports are so mediocre it's funny to see them ration them so severely.

I've almost installed them at various times to see how bad they are but fortunately I've had too many actually good games to play :) Got the originals on Steam anyway.

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11 minutes ago, gospvg said:

 

I obviously need longer than 3 months then, 6 months please Sony.

I'm pretty sure all of the ones leaving are more than 6 months old on the service because they were on PS now. Greedfall has been there for at least a year if not way longer (I remember downloading it on PS now in 2020). It seems like less because they transferred over to the new ps plus 

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