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1 minute ago, ckny said:

Why do managers not resign anymore? Can’t think of the last time one fell on his sword and did the honourable thing.

 

Big payouts when the 3 year contract they signed a few months ago has to be paid off.

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1 hour ago, ckny said:

Why do managers not resign anymore? Can’t think of the last time one fell on his sword and did the honourable thing.

Money. Ole will probably be able to retire very comfortably on his payoff from Utd.

 

Not sure of the exact statistic, but Mourinho has earned more money from sackings than as actually working as a manager or something like that.

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"Manchester United sack Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and announce Michael Carrick as interim manager"

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-solskjaer-michael-carrick-22229595

 

i dont really see how MC will help that much. maybe he can freshen things up in training, but, as hes been part of the backroom staff, not sure how really.

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What the statement says is, "Michael Carrick will now take charge of the team for forthcoming games, while the club looks to appoint an interim manager to the end of the season."  So any appointment they make will just be an interim manager until the end of the season?  What?  I know that's what I was saying further up the thread but I was fucking joking!  I was referencing the fact that that's what we did last time!  

 

We've once again timed this just as no top-level coaches are available.  Rodgers and Zidane are not top-level.  I guess it's going to be "lets get someone in to keep it ticking over until the end of the season then we'll get Poch or Ten Hag, easy" again.  We're only about a third of the way through the season.  It's still salvagable, but if Carrick leads us triumphantly out of the Champions League on tuesday, that's probably not the case.

 

Shambolic.

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Also according to reports Ole is the only one leaving. All other coaches are staying put, including Phelan, McKenna, Ramsey (the set piece *specialist*) and the rest. I just… sigh. What will change then? Do we really believe Ole alone was the bad apple? What a joke.

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14 minutes ago, Gabzy said:

Also according to reports Ole is the only one leaving. All other coaches are staying put, including Phelan, McKenna, Ramsey (the set piece *specialist*) and the rest. I just… sigh. What will change then? Do we really believe Ole alone was the bad apple? What a joke.

Can't just sack them all and have no one to run things. I'm sure when a new manager comes in they will want to revamp things a bit.

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It was horrible seeing Ole after that game yesterday. When he was talking to Geoff Shreeves you could see he was holding back the tears; not nice to see. For all his faults, he has proven to be a dignified and nice guy. 

 

Seems to me that the issue is that United continue to buy quality players and then fit a system round them. As opposed to Pep, Klopp and Tuchel who are very much system first and then the players have to fit into it. Pep can play a system that doesn't require him to even have a conventional striker on the pitch, Klopp signs Jota to some surprise and immediately shows he's the perfect player for the frontline and Tuchel drills the system into the team. When Ole focused fully on the system first, such as the PSG game, he had some success. 

 

Interim manager suggests that if you do end up with Zidane, he's going to use the next 6 months learning English. Not sure he's really what you need and I'd be bending over backwards to get Ten Hag. 

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6 minutes ago, spork said:

Can't just sack them all and have no one to run things. I'm sure when a new manager comes in they will want to revamp things a bit.

Really? Because I’d rather see the dinner ladies set the team up on Tuesday to be honest.

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7 minutes ago, Stopharage said:

It was horrible seeing Ole after that game yesterday. When he was talking to Geoff Shreeves you could see he was holding back the tears; not nice to see. For all his faults, he has proven to be a dignified and nice guy. 

 

Seems to me that the issue is that United continue to buy quality players and then fit a system round them. As opposed to Pep, Klopp and Tuchel who are very much system first and then the players have to fit into it. Pep can play a system that doesn't require him to even have a conventional striker on the pitch, Klopp signs Jota to some surprise and immediately shows he's the perfect player for the frontline and Tuchel drills the system into the team. When Ole focused fully on the system first, such as the PSG game, he had some success. 

 

Interim manager suggests that if you do end up with Zidane, he's going to use the next 6 months learning English. Not sure he's really what you need and I'd be bending over backwards to get Ten Hag. 

I’d like Ten Hag too, but it won’t happen.

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6 minutes ago, Stopharage said:

It was horrible seeing Ole after that game yesterday. When he was talking to Geoff Shreeves you could see he was holding back the tears; not nice to see. For all his faults, he has proven to be a dignified and nice guy. 

 

Seems to me that the issue is that United continue to buy quality players and then fit a system round them. As opposed to Pep, Klopp and Tuchel who are very much system first and then the players have to fit into it. Pep can play a system that doesn't require him to even have a conventional striker on the pitch, Klopp signs Jota to some surprise and immediately shows he's the perfect player for the frontline and Tuchel drills the system into the team. When Ole focused fully on the system first, such as the PSG game, he had some success. 

 

Interim manager suggests that if you do end up with Zidane, he's going to use the next 6 months learning English. Not sure he's really what you need and I'd be bending over backwards to get Ten Hag. 

 

Yeah, the signings have been made by an investment banker, and are consistently based more around share price than suitability to the team.  As I said yesterday, what manager can succeed under those circumstances?

 

Ten Hag wouldn't leave Ajax mid-season for the Bayern job.  He's not going to go back on that to take over a circus.

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If they had any sense they'd write the season off and get a DoF in place to hire and complement a new manager in the summer. They won't, because the stronger the footballing structure, the more it undermines the potential for milking the teats.

 

Have they got the sense to ignore any bounce if the interim gets a tune out of them? Doubt it.

 

It would be so Woodward to tease Fergie into six months of steering. He wouldn't even manage a shave to announce that, the cunting foetus.

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2 hours ago, ckny said:

Genuine question, what’s special about ten Hag? It’s a league Frank de Boer won 4 times as manager.

 

Their champions league run to the semi final a few years ago? Where they were honestly incredible, completely outplaying teams like Madrid and Juventus, battering (CL holders) Madrid 4-1 at the Bernabau and Juventus 2-1 in Turin. Some of the best football I've seen, the awareness of where team mates were and the fluidity of the play was something special. The best players moved and haven't been as good since. 

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I doubt he'll ever have a job as big again and I think that is probably one of the reasons he was always so humble, he perhaps always felt he was incredibly fortunate to be there (which he was based on his management credentials.)

 

I wonder what comes next for him? 

 

 

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I'm not sure if it was in here someone said it but I what club's supporters would actually want Ole? How far down would you have to go? I'm a Fulham fan and there's no way I'd swap what we currently have for him. Would even Derby fans want Ole over Rooney etc etc? Shame to see him go though, it's always a lot more special when it's a club legend you're doing well under. 

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28 minutes ago, BitterToad said:

I'm not sure if it was in here someone said it but I what club's supporters would actually want Ole? How far down would you have to go? I'm a Fulham fan and there's no way I'd swap what we currently have for him. Would even Derby fans want Ole over Rooney etc etc? Shame to see him go though, it's always a lot more special when it's a club legend you're doing well under. 

I think he's more likely to be on Strictly next year than managing in the PL. 

 

Potter's Ostersunds have been relegated from the Swedish First Division and would be good to see Ole do well in a revival job like that and repair his reputation. 

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