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feltmonkey

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Yeah, it's all a bit rushed. I like the urgency though. It does look as if we're trying to get through them, and that we have some idea of how to do that, which is nice. 

 

A better team than Everton might have punished us a couple of times, though.

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10 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

i forgot there was a game...what did ddg do?

 

It looked a bit like the hokey-cokey but he forgot which was left and which was right and the ball went through his legs while he leant against the post like a teenager leans against a lamppost on a Friday night out!

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6 minutes ago, teddymeow said:

I wish there was something that could be done about all the spitting and nose clearing that goes on.

 

It's just absolutely grim to see!

 

:lol:

 

What a strange reaction to the match. I guess it is odd because I've played a lot of amateur football and it never really happened there. I think I'm desensitised to it all after years of watching Brian McClair. That man could clear a nostril better than anyone else to ever wear the shirt. He had an uncanny knack of doing it every time he was on camera, as well.

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Does anyone else find this Weghorst transfer a bit depressing? He's an anti-vaxxer and a complete dickhead. It reminds me of the Arnautovic thing.  He never even really apologised for spreading anti-vax misinformation - he said something along the lines of, "I'm sorry if anyone was offended, but everyone should do their own research." There's also a concrete risk to bringing someone unvaccinated into the squad.

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3 hours ago, feltmonkey said:

Does anyone else find this Weghorst transfer a bit depressing? He's an anti-vaxxer and a complete dickhead. It reminds me of the Arnautovic thing.  He never even really apologised for spreading anti-vax misinformation - he said something along the lines of, "I'm sorry if anyone was offended, but everyone should do their own research." There's also a concrete risk to bringing someone unvaccinated into the squad.

I didn’t realise that stuff about him, it is a bit concerning. However, if the loan does go through, I feel Ten Hag has done enough already re: players he’s brought in to earn our trust. He’s always talking about how important the personality of the player is, so I trust him.

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20 hours ago, Gabzy said:

I didn’t realise that stuff about him, it is a bit concerning. However, if the loan does go through, I feel Ten Hag has done enough already re: players he’s brought in to earn our trust. He’s always talking about how important the personality of the player is, so I trust him.

 

Definitely, and I think on the pitch his personality might be an advantage. He's arrogant and abrasive, which are often quite good things to have in a player. He's a shithouse, basically. We saw a bit of this in the World Cup game against Argentina when he wound up the entire Argentina team and bench. I just don't think I personally would get on with him at all!

 

I do hope he's vaccinated now though, because with our fixture list, the last thing we need is a covid outbreak.

 

Although news seems to have slowed, and it might not happen anyway. The sticking point seems to be whether Besiktas are willing to release him from his loan deal to them, and quite frankly why would they?

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52 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

The sticking point seems to be whether Besiktas are willing to release him from his loan deal to them, and quite frankly why would they?

 

Having just read the latest comments from Besiktas, which combined with statements earlier in the year, I would be more than happy for Burnley, Man Utd and Weghorst to figure out a way to leave them absolutely in the shit.

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20 minutes ago, Plissken said:

 

Having just read the latest comments from Besiktas, which combined with statements earlier in the year, I would be more than happy for Burnley, Man Utd and Weghorst to figure out a way to leave them absolutely in the shit.

 

:lol:

 

What did they say?

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32 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

 

:lol:

 

What did they say?

 

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There will have to be a reward for us to approve the separation. I’ll give an example. Burnley told us, ‘We made a deal with this team for Weghorst. We give you half of the transfer fee’. This may be a different condition. Then we’ll sit down and talk.”

 

From the Besiktas sporting director.  To which I would respond, "That's nice, but you're forgetting one thing... he's not your fucking player."

 

Earlier in the season when the 10m euro price tag was revealed, he said "If Burnley are still in the Championship, then we will of course negotiate this down as they will need the money".

 

So, as far as Besiktas are concerned, the deal is a deal until the point that it isn't.  So fuck those guys.  Right now, if something isn't arranged, then they still have to buy a Dutchman for 10m euro at the end of the season, except now he's pissed off.

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20 minutes ago, Plissken said:

 

 

From the Besiktas sporting director.  To which I would respond, "That's nice, but you're forgetting one thing... he's not your fucking player."

 

Earlier in the season when the 10m euro price tag was revealed, he said "If Burnley are still in the Championship, then we will of course negotiate this down as they will need the money".

 

So, as far as Besiktas are concerned, the deal is a deal until the point that it isn't.  So fuck those guys.  Right now, if something isn't arranged, then they still have to buy a Dutchman for 10m euro at the end of the season, except now he's pissed off.

 

They want half any transfer fee?  Amazing.  :lol:

 

They have a point that they have a loan contract in place for Weghorst and it's not unreasonable to expect that to be honoured, but it's just a loan deal.  It doesn't give them any form of ownership of the player.  Players get recalled from loan all the time.  I guess there wasn't a recall clause in this case.  Is there an obligation to buy or an option to buy in the loan deal between Burnley and Besiktas?  I wonder what the legal status of a clause like that would be if the player no longer wants the move - they can presumably just reject the move at the point when the loanee club tries to trigger the full transfer.  As you point out, the fact that they wanted to negotiate the price down shows their attitude to deals and contracts.

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