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1 hour ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Hate to sound like a miserable old thing, but… The competitive games programmes, GamesMaster and Games World, weren’t very good, were they? I cringed my way through Challenge’s 2003 repeats of GamesMaster. I’ve caught snatches of later GM, GW and the other gaming shows, and they’ve objectively not good television. Amateurish, cheap looking (despite most likely being made with a bigger budget than many modern TV shows), often utterly tawdry. Some things should be left in the past, because, let’s be honest, we only watched them because there was no other way of watching footage of recent games.

 

GM overall and as a format was absolute shit, even with rose-tinted glasses. I can't imagine this is an even vaguely controversial opinion. Even as a fairly young child I remember being conscious of how poor much of it was, the challenges in particular obviously. It is quite beyond me why anyone ever thought that it would be good television to regularly pit two people against one another who, experienced gamers or not, have patently never played the particular game in question before and just sort of thrashed around for five minutes until someone was eventually determined to be least bad. But the reason it's fondly remembered is of course the other parts: the strange staging, the faintly subversive Dominik Diamond, an oddly distorted Patrick Moore reciting advice of which he understands not a word, glimpses of new and exotic games that most of us wouldn't get our hands on for months or possibly ever (I've still never seen a Neo Geo in person, as far as I'm aware), Dave Perry failing so hard at being cool that it was apparent even to 8 year olds, and so on. I've watched a few clips of GM in more recent years but I can't imagine that sitting through entire episodes would do anything but emphasise the bad over the good now.

 

I think much of that reminiscing also emphasises why the reboot is so doomed: I doubt they'll manage to successfully replicate much of the good/weird bits and the shit bits will be at least as shit as they were originally.

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I have rewatched both gamesmaster Bad Influence and the latter was a much better show. It covered so many more interesting topics and felt like a real passion for gaming. 

 

Although I like Dominic Diamond, overall the show wasn't good. 

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37 minutes ago, R0b said:

A few of us chasing this guy quite hard. If anyone who reposted/documented his name do so with any glee, you're being a dickhead: it'd be a disproportionate response to some crap spam if it drums up any extra heat whatsoever with his employers. All I'm seeing is a clumsy advert. Yes, we're all very enlightened and TV is a dinosaur in comparison to our cutting edge medium of youtube and, erm, forums

No interest in getting involved in the TV show, btw. 

 

he's been named on Nintendo Life & Eurogamer now, so nobody is breaking the official secrets act or RLLMUK omertà in naming him I'd say

 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-09-03-looks-like-the-rebooted-gamesmaster-is-looking-for-contestants

 

 

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I don't actually think there was any harm in asking, I mean if you wanna find people your best bet will be forums and discord. I'd be surprised if they were surprised that there'd be some scepticism that this kind of format might work in 2021.

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10 minutes ago, SMD said:

I don't actually think there was any harm in asking, I mean if you wanna find people your best bet will be forums and discord. I'd be surprised if they were surprised that there'd be some scepticism that this kind of format might work in 2021.

 

It's a risky strategy, unless you are going to be engaging fully with all the replies and questions. But it looks like he wanted the Gamesmaster connection on the down-low. I imagine he enters the weekend a sadder but wiser man. Still, no such thing as bad publicity!

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How did the original GM find contestants? Did they put ads in mags? I wouldn't be surprised if they had a caption on screen suggesting people write in when it was more established. 

 

This guy though, would have been nice if he'd engaged with us a bit, even some banter. I doubt he'd be able to reveal anything about the plans for the new format and the like but just getting to know people a bit rather than dropping a JPEG and legging it may have been beneficial. 

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5 hours ago, Smoothy said:

I was on both :o

 

Yep, on GamesMaster as one of the kids asking GamesMaster for a tip.  And on Games World as a contestant.  I'm sure some of you on here know this already?  Or not?

 

I thought maybe someone had, which could have been you?

 

Feel free to regale us with your tale(s) if you can be bothered.

 

I would have loved to have been on Games World.

 

I think once an advert popped up on Sky with an address if you were interested as being a contestant, but I missed the address then ended up watching Sky One for like a week non-stop and it never popped up again.

 

Did you play that multiplayer game that I think was on the Amiga where you're a red/blue/green etc. blob? 

 

Who were you up against. Big Boy Barry?

 

What was Bob whatshisname like?

 

Did you win your challenge?!

 

Why are we not all applying to be on the GM reboot!!!

 

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31 minutes ago, nakamura said:

I have rewatched both gamesmaster Bad Influence and the latter was a much better show. It covered so many more interesting topics and felt like a real passion for gaming. 

 

Although I like Dominic Diamond, overall the show wasn't good. 

 

I remember Andy Crane once saying they were giving some Cray supercomputer or something (that could render the most amazing 3D trees) away as a prize and I nearly died with excitement.

 

Beat.

 

"Only kidding"

 

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47 minutes ago, SMD said:

I don't actually think there was any harm in asking, I mean if you wanna find people your best bet will be forums and discord. I'd be surprised if they were surprised that there'd be some scepticism that this kind of format might work in 2021.

 

It was a pretty clumsy effort though. "Hey, fellow kids, how about TAKING ON a CHALLENGE on TELEVISION with one of your 'interactive video games' ?"

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Cheers that was a great write up! 

 

I had actually forgot the "structure" to the GW competition. Sounds like you had a great time anyway even if you didn't get to humiliate the Violet Blade (lol) - you did well, 'grats! 

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On 02/09/2021 at 21:45, footle said:

Did he not have his finger on the pulse of the second cuntiest games forum on the ?

 

(I have forgotten whether we are more or less cunty than neogaf, and wondering whether it’s even possible to rank yourself any longer amongst a raft of Covid denying trump supporting subreddits)

More. 

 

Mumsnet is the undisputed no.1

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18 hours ago, SozzlyJoe said:

 

It's a risky strategy, unless you are going to be engaging fully with all the replies and questions. But it looks like he wanted the Gamesmaster connection on the down-low. I imagine he enters the weekend a sadder but wiser man. Still, no such thing as bad publicity!

 

This was the key, if it was actually in good faith he'd have said "Yes that cringe in a danger, here's what I can tell you about how we're avoiding it" something.

 

But he just posted and ran, came back to check it the best part of a week later, didn't like what he saw, had a flounce.

 

And to me that tells me we were right the first time.

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On 02/09/2021 at 19:38, deerokus said:

Whoever made that image probably doesn't know the difference between the two Patricks.

 

As for the casting notice, they will most assuredly be looking for some 50+ year old comedy gaming stereotype to take the piss out of, don't fall for it.

Dara o Briain then.

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45 minutes ago, b00dles said:

Bloody awesome @Smoothy! Those videos are quality 👍

 

I forgot how terrible a 'presenter' David Perry actually was. 

 

I thought he was fine. Explaining the events well and doing his best with the entire thing. Bob Mills though, jesus. 

 

Great videos though @Smoothyreally enjoyed that. 

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26 minutes ago, cavalcade said:

 

I thought he was fine. Explaining the events well and doing his best with the entire thing. Bob Mills though, jesus. 

 

Great videos though @Smoothyreally enjoyed that. 

Each to their own, they're both terrible really. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Without Dom, Kirk, Rik etc it’s not going to be Games Master. Any reboot will probably end up more like the Dexter Fletcher series. Just some bloke shouting at the contestants and the camera.
 

I still watch the occasional episode now and again. The one with the challenge “We’re Athletic, We Love Lycra” is still hilarious. The tone of humour from series 5+ wouldn’t be allowed on TV now…

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6 hours ago, b00dles said:

I never got any sort of email response to that casting address. Guess I ironed my rllmuk tshirt for nothing.

 

Nothing!


They clearly ran away and halted the project once they realized the true error of their deeds. Don’t mess with the masterpiece that was gamesmaster

or we here at rllmuk towers will unite and riot.

 

if anyone else out there is thinking of rebooting it, come to us first and earn our respect. Only then will we lay down our swords.

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On 04/09/2021 at 09:44, Smoothy said:

  

 

3rd series was every weekday 6pm (IIRC).  Monday was "The Eliminator 1", Tuesday and Thursday I can't remember but one of them was "Barry's Joypad" - that show that he did with David Walliams (yes the David Walliams), Wednesday was "The Eliminator 2" (which I did), and Friday was "Beat The Elite" where the winners of The Eliminator 1 and 2 played each other at Cash Dash at the beginning of the show and the winner gets to play against the Videators.

  


OK, first stage was "Sudden Death" to pair it down from 8 to 4 - I got paired with another boy and had to win to progress. 

 

 

Second round was Turbo Toons - essentially like any other top-down racing game:
 

 

Third round was Earthworm Jim 2 warp (wormhole) stage:
 

 

 

Final game was my game - Super Street Fighter II, but not on the Super NES - on the Megadrive:
 

 

And then we filmed Friday's show on the same day - I played Monday's champion at "Cash Dash" - this is actually the second take.  I'm sure we got the highest combined amount of coins in the series ever (twice):
 


And then there was GamesMaster - my sister is the 3rd kid while I was the 5th kid:
 

 


This is so cool Smoothy! I’ve somehow never seen Games World. Bob Mills, what a legend.

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In all honestly that's better than the "LOL nerds"fest I'm actually expecting.

 

But yeah I fear they'll ruin it like they did Crystal Maze where I've given up even trying to work out which episodes aren't "Celebs" because I think there's about 5.

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