Rate the last series you completed out of 5 - No spoilers!

[Bazjam]

I would also like to say 5/5 for Andor. Not much to say that hasn’t already been said. It’s ace.

[cassidy]

4 hours ago, Masterbeef said:

I’m honestly not trying to be controversial, but

 

Andor

 

2/5

 

and that’s being generous.  Not for me and I only carried on watching so I could watch Rogue One (which I’m not even sure I’ll bother with now). I’m happy everyone else loved it though. 
 

I dare not post my thoughts in the main thread as it’s such a positive vibe in there. 

But.... Genuine Lol at that. Was not expecting it. 

 

Post them there then hot take king and defend your position with reasons. Cos you haven't so far.  

 

ISB spy in our mist everyone. Bet they cheered when B got kicked over. 

[Garwoofoo]

Andor 3/5

 

Also bucking the forum trend here, sorry. I respected this for what it was trying to do but most of it didn't land for me. Turns out that if you take the humour, excitement, crazy aliens, comedy droids and lightsabres out of Star Wars then it doesn't really feel like Star Wars any more to me.

 

@cassidyNot sure how well I'll articulate this but I'll try and explain why it didn't land. I promise this isn't a "hot take" and for what it's worth my other half also found this a bit ponderous. My Star Wars-mad son gave up, disappointed, after six episodes.

 

Spoilered because I don't want to derail the thread.
 

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Yes, Andor is slow. I don't have a problem with slow-burn storytelling. I've just thoroughly enjoyed House of the Dragon, for instance, and that's far slower than Andor, consisting mostly of people in candle-lit rooms scowling at each other. And it was riveting. I think there were two differences though:

 

- In HOTD, you don't know what's going to happen. Both shows are prequels but HOTD is set far enough before Game of Thrones that you don't know the fate of those characters at all. Not knowing what is going to happen is pretty much a prerequisite for dramatic tension, in anything. Andor, meanwhile, is stuffed into a very over-examined part of the Star Wars timeline and you know exactly how things pan out - not just in terms of the story of the Rebellion and the Empire but even down to the fates of individual characters like Mon Mothma and Andor himself. The only "unknowns" are the fates of minor characters, and as they don't appear in any other media, you can pretty much work that out for yourself anyway.

 

- The characters in HOTD are consistently well-depicted. Drama arises from the ways in which those characters interact. But Cassian Andor is a placeholder. He doesn't have any motivation apart from survival (he was looking for his sister, but he's forgotten that now). Events largely happen to him rather than being instigated by him. He's there to enable the story of the rebellion to unfold around him, but he's not an engaging or strong character in his own right, and that's a big problem in a show that's literally named after him. (To be fair, he was the dullest character in Rogue One as well, so this shouldn't have been a surprise, but still). It was amazing how much the show picked up when Andy Serkis arrived, an actor with actual charisma that immediately made you invested in the fate of his character. You don't need a character who's wisecracking constantly or anything like that but you do need someone at the core of the show whose fate you actually care about, and honestly if Andor had snuffed it in the finale (obviously he wasn't going to) it feels like this show would have just trundled on regardless.

 

I don't know - it's not like I hate this show, and I really want to like it in the way you all do, I'm just a bit nonplussed by it. It's like it's constantly on the cusp of something happening then it pulls away from it every time. The idea of a show based around the Empire at its peak is a great one, but told in this way with these characters, it just leaves me a bit cold. By the end, I was rooting for the Empire.

 

[Benny]

Just a little retort to one part of the above

 

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Not knowing what is going to happen is pretty much a prerequisite for dramatic tension, in anything

 

I don't think this is true. It certainly helps to not know the entirety of what is going to happen to a character, but whether they "live" or "die" or not is not the beginning and end of dramatic tension with a fictional character. There is dramatic tension no matter how slight even in say, Neighbours, but not because you are wondering if anyone is going to die or not, as you're certainly not expecting that to happen in the show. The dramatic tension arises from not knowing what is going to happen in the arc of those characters, and how their story is going to be fleshed out over time.

 

This is why Better Call Saul, despite being about a character that we know the "end" point of from a different TV show, is absolutely stuffed with dramatic tension, because you're entirely invested in finding out what happens on their journey, and especially what has happened to all of Jimmy's relationships with various characters by the end of the story. It's the development and disruption of those relationships that provides dramatic tension throughout.

 

So to quote Bruce Lee: "It's like a finger pointing toward the Death Star. Concentrate on the finger, and miss all the Imperial glory".

 

[Rayn]

Person of Interest (HBO MAX)

 

Season 1 

It's all a bit silly and super hero like, loads of parallel plotlines that intertwine with more plot twists than I'm used to but it really works. The show doesn't take itself too seriously and even manages to joke about some of the plot twists in a way that reminds you that this is just a tv series meant for entertainment, and entertaining it is. 

Going by the old format of 20+ episodes each season there are a few filler episodes but even some of them are very entertaining but the show is at its best when it moves the main plot forward. 

All the main actors give great performances and it's overall a very enjoyable series to binge. 

4.5/5

 

Season 2

Continuing directly from the cliffhanger at the end of the first season, it starts out rather slowly but then dials it all up to 11 for a roller coaster of a show. There's a lot more focus on the main story lines throughout the second season and whenever one mystery is revealed another is born. This is nigh on perfect entertainment and a really fun watch. 

4.5/5

[Kingpin]

The Plot Against America - 3.5/5

 

This is me filling another gap in my David Simon watchlist. It's an adaptation of the Philip Roth novel (which I haven't read) about a Jewish family in New Jersey set in alternate history 1940 where politicians with fascist sympathies are gaining traction.

 

It took a little while to get going but once it had the hooks in, it was very compelling, tense, frustrating and believable. Solid cast overall - maybe Morgan Spector was a bit over the top at times but I get the fury and frustration of his character. Anthony Boyle was probably the stand-out for me but Jon Turturro, Winona Ryder, Zoe Kazan and all the supporting characters were spot on. As usual, there are a few Wire/The Deuce actors that show up, which I quite enjoy for no particular reason.

 

Love a good mini-series, and David Simon has a great hit rate. I'm re-watching Generation Kill now.

[Nathan Wind]

Mr Inbetween - Disno +

 

This was tremendous from start to finish. A low-key, totally believable Australian show about a hitman. It's got that downbeat, naturalistic sort of acting that really grounds it in the real world. Lovely vein of very dark humour running through it as well. The best thing is, the episodes are only around 25 minutes long so it never loses pace. Great show, loved it. Top marks.

 

5/5

[Masterbeef]

7 hours ago, Kingpin said:

The Plot Against America - 3.5/5

 

This is me filling another gap in my David Simon watchlist. It's an adaptation of the Philip Roth novel (which I haven't read) about a Jewish family in New Jersey set in alternate history 1940 where politicians with fascist sympathies are gaining traction.

 

It took a little while to get going but once it had the hooks in, it was very compelling, tense, frustrating and believable. Solid cast overall - maybe Morgan Spector was a bit over the top at times but I get the fury and frustration of his character. Anthony Boyle was probably the stand-out for me but Jon Turturro, Winona Ryder, Zoe Kazan and all the supporting characters were spot on. As usual, there are a few Wire/The Deuce actors that show up, which I quite enjoy for no particular reason.

 

Love a good mini-series, and David Simon has a great hit rate. I'm re-watching Generation Kill now.

This sounds great. Where can I stream it?

[Kingpin]

2 hours ago, Masterbeef said:

This sounds great. Where can I stream it?

Sky Go, Now TV or the high seas. Well worth seeking out. 

[Masterbeef]

Treadstone

 

Poor follow up to the Bourne movies. A plot that is overly confusing and it doesn't really go anywhere. No idea why there were two timelines running. 

2/5

[Garwoofoo]

SAS Rogue Heroes

 

This wartime drama was created by Steven Knight of Peaky Blinders fame and it's a familiar mix of bombastic action, charismatic heroes and incongruous modern rock music. The three nutters that make up the core cast are immediately likeable and the whole thing looks pretty good given it was made on a BBC budget. No idea how true to life it is (I suspect not very) but it's very entertaining in a Boys' Own kind of a way.

 

(Small whinge: the sound quality for this on iPlayer was dreadful. iPlayer only does stereo sound and at quite a low bitrate and it did this show no favours at all. Dialogue was extremely hard to make out at times and I spent ages playing with my sound settings trying to get better separation. I'm not going to let it affect my score for what was a very entertaining show but honestly you'd expect this stuff to be a bit better by now).

 

4/5

[ScouserInExile]

Wednesday

 

Really enjoyed this. Watched it with the whole family and it was a brilliant experience. We've spent the last couple of weeks trying to work out who the monster is. I worked it out from the first episode, by the way.

 

It was really stylish, well shot, brilliantly acted throughout, the plot was great, full of great characters...

 

It was just a really good watch. 

 

5/5

[Festoon]

On 07/12/2022 at 10:15, Rayn said:

Person of Interest (HBO MAX)

 

Season 1 

It's all a bit silly and super hero like, loads of parallel plotlines that intertwine with more plot twists than I'm used to but it really works. The show doesn't take itself too seriously and even manages to joke about some of the plot twists in a way that reminds you that this is just a tv series meant for entertainment, and entertaining it is. 

Going by the old format of 20+ episodes each season there are a few filler episodes but even some of them are very entertaining but the show is at its best when it moves the main plot forward. 

All the main actors give great performances and it's overall a very enjoyable series to binge. 

4.5/5

 

Season 2

Continuing directly from the cliffhanger at the end of the first season, it starts out rather slowly but then dials it all up to 11 for a roller coaster of a show. There's a lot more focus on the main story lines throughout the second season and whenever one mystery is revealed another is born. This is nigh on perfect entertainment and a really fun watch. 

4.5/5

 

Mister Reese - geddit?

[Treble]

The Walking Dead

 

 

Mrs. Treb insisted on re-watching this from the start, to eventually catch up from where we binned it off around season 8.

Clipper is doing a great job of running through it season-by-season in the dedicated thread, but I’ll be more succinct: it's... not good.

 

Expanding the seasons was the first, biggest mistake. Six is great; 13 is ok but a stretch; 16 is a disaster; 20+ is a war crime. The second was allowing it to go on too long so that characters develop plot armour.  The show started around the same time as GoT and both were refreshing in that no-one was beyond death, and more often than not were getting their presumed-safe gizzards torn out. That pretty much disappeared around season 5 or 6; the redshirts started appearing in droves and core-cast deaths became signposted.

 

Thirdly, the plots just endlessly recycle: discover new society/war with that society. Not sure if the creators were saving ideas for spin-offs but creativity went out the window very early on. There are flashes, of course – the seaside society, the CDC, the build-up and reveal at Terminus, the concept of the Whisperers – but we soon hit the same pattern each season where the first episode or two and the last couple were good, then the majority of the remaining 10/12+ episodes were mostly filler.

 

 

It's not all bad, of course. The first 3-4 seasons range from 6s to 8s out of 10, then it becomes completely mediocre for ages, especially (and ironically) around Negan who is the best character the show produced and is therefore 600% over-used. We do, though, pick-up a bit in the last 2-3 season runs but it’s too little, too late. A victim of its own success. Fake outs, boring speeches that last for days, Carol and Daryl having the longest, least interesting dry hump in existence, the mundanity of Alexandria and Hilltop, the pointlessness of Ezekiel

Spoiler

especially after his CGI tiger dies

 

Maggie’s terrible acting but – and this is worst of all – the reliance on gun battles & scarcity of inventive zombie kills. It feels like a tremendous waste of time and energy, especially with 'that' ending. The one word that should have defined this show is ‘shocking’ but, unfortunately, a more truthful descriptor by the disappointing finale is ‘mundane’.

 

4/10

 

The Patient

 

 

Solid thriller with Steve Carell and Domnhall Gleeson as psychiatrist and multiple murderer respectively, with the former trapped in the latter’s basement and forced to try and ‘fix’ him. It’s held back a little by Carrel’s lack of range (he’s ok, but acted off the set by Gleeson who’s on phenomenal form here), some underdeveloped characters and lack of shock or terror in the scenes of violence, but it’s an interesting thought piece about caring, (Jewish) faith and the importance of forgiveness.

 

7/10

 

Andor

 

 

 

A funny one, this. Naturally it polarises Star Wars fans (what doesn’t?! Worst fanbase in existence etc. etc.) and hasn’t done the numbers Disney would like, but I don’t think they’ll give a shit. Kennedy et al will just be happy to tote it around as a loss-leader that the critics love, finally giving the House of Mouse a little kudos for their handling of the franchise. Well, at least since The Mandalorian started carrying the core systems on its shoulders.

 

A gripping piece of war-torn drama, where flaws are negligible and some of the pacing issues easily papered-over by incredible performances. Skarsgård, naturally, but top turns from all the European cast make it thoroughly engrossing. I still feel Diego Luna is a little lost in this role, and Kyle Soller slipped into hammy mode once or twice but that’s by-the-by. Once the final credits roll, you've watched one of the most affecting stories of the year, built around one of the best SW stories ever told.

 

9/10

[pledge]

Sliders (1995) 

 

I've been going through shows from the 90s that I never finished, and I remember fondly watching Sliders on BBC2. How they took such a great premise and ruined it this badly is quite impressive. There's clearly constraints that every world needs to speak English and they reuse the same hotel set in basically every episode for budget reasons, but the number of times they meet their doubles and the worlds are barely any different just shows how little imagination the writers had.

 

It isn't that bad at the start as the cast gel pretty well and it is more of an anthology. The later series suffer from what plagued 90s shows, where they tried to introduce an overarching plot rather than just the macguffin of trying to get home. His parents suddenly are suddenly not his real parents, they are also inter-dimensional travellers. He meets his real brother from those parents in another dimension. They introduce a recurring enemy that is basically just a race with bad teeth. Everything that is added makes the show less compelling and more contrived and restricted.

 

Then the core cast all start leaving until there's just one. The acting of all the secondary cast gets lower and lower. Clearly budget constrained some of it takes place in basically nondescript rooms - apart from the rare episode where they force the script to make use of whatever film is on the lot of the time and there's a massively over the top civil war battle taking place. I did enjoy one episode noticing they were filming it on the Hollywood Studios Flash Flood ride and just trying to crop out the general public.

 

The last season is easily the worst scripted TV I have ever watched.

 

Early seasons 6/10, later seasons 2/10.

 

Homicide: Life on the Street (1993)

 

This is one that I entirely missed and was only aware of with the connection to The Wire etc. Loved everything about this. The cast giving excellent performances week in week out.  Andre Braugher of course, but I also really enjoyed Clark Johnson and Kyle Secor. No stupid long running plots, just a crime of the week with an interesting story.

 

9/10

[Mawdlin]

1 hour ago, Treble said:

The Walking Dead

 

 

Mrs. Treb insisted on re-watching this from the start, to eventually catch up from where we binned it off around season 8.

Clipper is doing a great job of running through it season-by-season in the dedicated thread, but I’ll be more succinct: it's... not good.

 

Expanding the seasons was the first, biggest mistake. Six is great; 13 is ok but a stretch; 16 is a disaster; 20+ is a war crime. The second was allowing it to go on too long so that characters develop plot armour.  The show started around the same time as GoT and both were refreshing in that no-one was beyond death, and more often than not were getting their presumed-safe gizzards torn out. That pretty much disappeared around season 5 or 6; the redshirts started appearing in droves and core-cast deaths became signposted.

 

Thirdly, the plots just endlessly recycle: discover new society/war with that society. Not sure if the creators were saving ideas for spin-offs but creativity went out the window very early on. There are flashes, of course – the seaside society, the CDC, the build-up and reveal at Terminus, the concept of the Whisperers – but we soon hit the same pattern each season where the first episode or two and the last couple were good, then the majority of the remaining 10/12+ episodes were mostly filler.

 

 

It's not all bad, of course. The first 3-4 seasons range from 6s to 8s out of 10, then it becomes completely mediocre for ages, especially (and ironically) around Negan who is the best character the show produced and is therefore 600% over-used. We do, though, pick-up a bit in the last 2-3 season runs but it’s too little, too late. A victim of its own success. Fake outs, boring speeches that last for days, Carol and Daryl having the longest, least interesting dry hump in existence, the mundanity of Alexandria and Hilltop, the pointlessness of Ezekiel

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especially after his CGI tiger dies

 

Maggie’s terrible acting but – and this is worst of all – the reliance on gun battles & scarcity of inventive zombie kills. It feels like a tremendous waste of time and energy, especially with 'that' ending. The one word that should have defined this show is ‘shocking’ but, unfortunately, a more truthful descriptor by the disappointing finale is ‘mundane’.

 

4/10

 

The Patient

 

 

Solid thriller with Steve Carell and Domnhall Gleeson as psychiatrist and multiple murderer respectively, with the former trapped in the latter’s basement and forced to try and ‘fix’ him. It’s held back a little by Carrel’s lack of range (he’s ok, but acted off the set by Gleeson who’s on phenomenal form here), some underdeveloped characters and lack of shock or terror in the scenes of violence, but it’s an interesting thought piece about caring, (Jewish) faith and the importance of forgiveness.

 

7/10

 

Andor

 

 

 

A funny one, this. Naturally it polarises Star Wars fans (what doesn’t?! Worst fanbase in existence etc. etc.) and hasn’t done the numbers Disney would like, but I don’t think they’ll give a shit. Kennedy et al will just be happy to tote it around as a loss-leader that the critics love, finally giving the House of Mouse a little kudos for their handling of the franchise. Well, at least since The Mandalorian started carrying the core systems on its shoulders.

 

A gripping piece of war-torn drama, where flaws are negligible and some of the pacing issues easily papered-over by incredible performances. Skarsgård, naturally, but top turns from all the European cast make it thoroughly engrossing. I still feel Diego Luna is a little lost in this role, and Kyle Soller slipped into hammy mode once or twice but that’s by-the-by. Once the final credits roll, you've watched one of the most affecting stories of the year, built around one of the best SW stories ever told.

 

9/10

Does Andor get better after the first 2 episodes? I'm not asking to cause a stir, it's just that I respect the praise on here but it's been so dreary thus far.

 

If it's a slow burn then fair enough but I don't want to waste my time if the consensus is that it's a masterpiece from the get go. To give some context; I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but found both The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan watchable but ultimately disappointing.

 

[Kingpin]

53 minutes ago, pledge said:

Sliders (1995) 

 

I've been going through shows from the 90s that I never finished, and I remember fondly watching Sliders on BBC2. How they took such a great premise and ruined it this badly is quite impressive. There's clearly constraints that every world needs to speak English and they reuse the same hotel set in basically every episode for budget reasons, but the number of times they meet their doubles and the worlds are barely any different just shows how little imagination the writers had.

 

It isn't that bad at the start as the cast gel pretty well and it is more of an anthology. The later series suffer from what plagued 90s shows, where they tried to introduce an overarching plot rather than just the macguffin of trying to get home. His parents suddenly are suddenly not his real parents, they are also inter-dimensional travellers. He meets his real brother from those parents in another dimension. They introduce a recurring enemy that is basically just a race with bad teeth. Everything that is added makes the show less compelling and more contrived and restricted.

 

Then the core cast all start leaving until there's just one. The acting of all the secondary cast gets lower and lower. Clearly budget constrained some of it takes place in basically nondescript rooms - apart from the rare episode where they force the script to make use of whatever film is on the lot of the time and there's a massively over the top civil war battle taking place. I did enjoy one episode noticing they were filming it on the Hollywood Studios Flash Flood ride and just trying to crop out the general public.

 

The last season is easily the worst scripted TV I have ever watched.

 

Early seasons 6/10, later seasons 2/10.

 

Homicide: Life on the Street (1993)

 

This is one that I entirely missed and was only aware of with the connection to The Wire etc. Loved everything about this. The cast giving excellent performances week in week out.  Andre Braugher of course, but I also really enjoyed Clark Johnson and Kyle Secor. No stupid long running plots, just a crime of the week with an interesting story.

 

9/10

I remember the idea of Sliders fondly. Jerry O’Connell (?) from Stand By Me as not a pudgy adult, and the chap who went on to play Gimli. I think I’ll leave it as fond memories though. 
 

I have the first season of Homicide waiting to go. Another missing piece of David Simon’s work for me. I’m glad it holds up. 

[PK]

1 hour ago, Mawdlin said:

Does Andor get better after the first 2 episodes? I'm not asking to cause a stir, it's just that I respect the praise on here but it's been so dreary thus far.

 

If it's a slow burn then fair enough but I don't want to waste my time if the consensus is that it's a masterpiece from the get go. To give some context; I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but found both The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan watchable but ultimately disappointing.

 

The tone doesn't change, if that's what's putting you off. They've tried to depict what it would be like for the average non-protagonist to live under the fascism of the Empire, and what it might take for a Rebel Alliance to actually form under the jackboot. There's basically no levity (although there's plenty of moments of bleak, dark humour). If it's not your cup of tea after the first two episodes I'd say that probably won't change.

 

Although I'm very reluctant to tell you to drop it because it's probably the best thing I've watched this year!

[Mogster]

3 hours ago, Mawdlin said:

Does Andor get better after the first 2 episodes? I'm not asking to cause a stir, it's just that I respect the praise on here but it's been so dreary thus far.

 

If it's a slow burn then fair enough but I don't want to waste my time if the consensus is that it's a masterpiece from the get go. To give some context; I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but found both The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan watchable but ultimately disappointing.

 

The first three episodes are basically a single feature length one cut into three, and were released at the same time. I'd definitely watch the third at least.

 

That said, while I enjoyed the first three episodes, it was the arc that followed that cemented the show as something really special for me.

 

It is a bit of a slow burner for sure though, and the tone never really lets up. 

[pledge]

This might make it seem like I just watched a lot of TV, but i had a lot of shows on concurrently that all ended a similar time.

 

Endeavour

Inspector Morse

 

We decided to watch these in (Morse's) chronological order rather than production. I'd say we enjoyed Endeavour more, but Inspector Morse was the better show. I related much more with his disdain for colleagues now than if I'd watched in when it aired.

 

Both 8/10

 

Should we bother with Lewis? Quite put off by Lawrence Fox being in it.

 

[PK]

28 minutes ago, pledge said:

 

Should we bother with Lewis? Quite put off by Lawrence Fox being in it.

 

His role's very prominent and it completely ruined my attempt to watch some of it after Morse recently. It's a shame, I have some fond memories of it being generally light but entertaining stuff the first time around.

[pledge]

1 minute ago, PK said:

 

His role's very prominent and it completely ruined my attempt to watch some of it after Morse recently. It's a shame, I have some fond memories of it being generally light but entertaining stuff the first time around.

Thanks. Might give Poirot a go instead then, unless there's other suggestions in the murder mystery genre (Pre-2000).

[Mawdlin]

Thanks @Mogster and @PK. I have had some excellent recommendations from here over the years, including Mr Inbetween and Succession, so will see how it goes.

[Kingpin]

Generation Kill - 4/5

 

I watched this when it first came out and have given it a re-watch over the past few weeks. I liked it at the time and I think it stands up as a very good portrayal of the invasion of Iraq with one of the recon marine troops. There's a lot to like about it - very strong ensemble cast, it's really funny with the banter between marines, it's thrilling when shit goes down, it's tragic when civilians get caught up in the war.

 

It's really well made with what I assume is a very good budget. It feels like it just shows the marines doing their job with the good stuff, and the terrible shit that comes with it, the boredom, the adrenaline of being engaged in combat, dealing with a mix of really good and very incompetent leadership from different places. 

[NexivRed]

Spirited!!! 
 

Will Ferrell & Ryan Reynolds. 
 

This was brilliant. And I can’t normally fucking stand Reynolds. Great new Christmas movie! 
 

5/5

[jonamok]

6 hours ago, NexivRed said:

Spirited!!! 
 

Will Ferrell & Ryan Reynolds. 
 

This was brilliant. And I can’t normally fucking stand Reynolds. Great new Christmas movie! 
 

5/5

This. Just watched it. Loved it. Perfect Christmas Eve movie. Fun and funny. Even loved the song and dance routines. It probably helps that I do love both leads, and Octavia Spencer.

 

4.5/5

[NexivRed]

48 minutes ago, jonamok said:

This. Just watched it. Loved it. Perfect Christmas Eve movie. Fun and funny. Even loved the song and dance routines. It probably helps that I do love both leads, and Octavia Spencer.

 

4.5/5

We’re both in the wrong thread!! 😄

[jonamok]

Oops. Lol.

[cassidy]

Mayflies on iPlayer 

 

Is it a series? well it's 2 parts anyway. But fuck me watching this the year your dad died of Cancer and didn't get to go out as he wanted was hard fucking viewing. Scenes of the dad dead on the floor just hit too close to home for me. 

 

But it had a cracking soundtrack and told it's tale very well.  But be prepared it's not easy viewing. 

[Stopharage]

Prince Andrew: The Musical. 1/5. 

 

Can’t say I’m much of a fan of musical theatre, so I was always likely to be a bit dismissive of this.
 

But, it was desperately unfunny. Whilst it was calling out to be over-the-top, it was just too much.