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Has the Ubisoft conference tanked anyone’s expectations for this and Nintendo now?

 

Devs are obviously struggling no matter how much people on here insist they should have gotten over working through the pandemic by now. 
 

Feeling a bit bummed out now tbh.

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7 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said:

Has the Ubisoft conference tanked anyone’s expectations for this and Nintendo now?

 

Devs are obviously struggling no matter how much people on here insist they should have gotten over working through the pandemic by now. 
 

Feeling a bit bummed out now tbh.

 

Well, yeah - manage your expectations regardless of publisher / developer size. I'm sure they've all had their troubles re-adjusting over the past year.

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I mean Ubisoft doesn't reflect every company in the industry: They are larger than most developers; their studios are scattered across the globe where they were varying levels of Covid outbreaks/lockdowns; their employees are under a constant siege of harassment by their management. I am sure some other companies are similarly constructed (to include the harassment) but Nintendo probably isn't one of them. 

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Just now, Super Stop and Shop said:

I mean Ubisoft doesn't reflect every company in the industry: They are larger than most developers; their studios are scattered across the globe where they were varying levels of Covid outbreaks/lockdowns; their employees are under a constant siege of harassment by their management. I am sure some other companies are similarly constructed (to include the harassment) but Nintendo probably isn't one of them. 

 

No, Nintendo is just primarily based in one of the countries notorious for being entirely unprepared for remote working when the pandemic hit, where productivity and the economy basically stopped multiple times during the pandemic thanks to most employees not even having laptops!

 

Nintendo were fucked by Covid. There were many reports of how fucked they were.

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9 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

Would have taken them a few weeks to move everything cloud based. It’s been nearly a year and a half since office workers moved to wfh. They’ll smash it out of the park. MS too. 

 

I've had some conversations with gamedev chums over the past year and it really hasn't been that simple.

 

Small indies are having less trouble, but they've usually worked remotely anyway.

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7 minutes ago, Isaac said:

 

No, Nintendo is just primarily based in one of the countries notorious for being entirely unprepared for remote working when the pandemic hit, where productivity and the economy basically stopped multiple times during the pandemic thanks to most employees not even having laptops!

 

Nintendo were fucked by Covid. There were many reports of how fucked they were.

 

I mean, they did show off Splatoon 3 (from the same team who delivered Animal Crossing right at the start of the pandemic, no less) not that long ago. Ubisoft has over 18,000 employees, which is roughly three times the size of Nintendo, and that number probably doesn't even include their contractors. Nintendo's individual project teams are significantly smaller and mostly in one building, which probably makes it much easier to get a project back on track after a major setback. I am sure at some point Ubisoft forgot to send a laptop to the guy whose job was to make soda cans in Watch Dogs. 

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11 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

Would have taken them a few weeks to move everything cloud based. It’s been nearly a year and a half since office workers moved to wfh. They’ll smash it out of the park. MS too. 

 

The problem in Japan is cultural, not technological, and will take decades to fix, not weeks.

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24 minutes ago, Lyrical Donut said:

 

I've had some conversations with gamedev chums over the past year and it really hasn't been that simple.

Course it hasn’t, but this is the fandom that thinks emulation is just done by dragging roms onto a hard drive and different console versions are chosen from a drop-down menu. 

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39 minutes ago, Lyrical Donut said:

 

I've had some conversations with gamedev chums over the past year and it really hasn't been that simple.

 

Small indies are having less trouble, but they've usually worked remotely anyway.


I work for a large software dev, not gaming, and Covid has had no effect other than the sales prospects to some customers. Dev wise nothing has changed. Nintendo and MS will blow us away. 

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11 hours ago, Boozy The Clown said:

Fair enough that these guys get taken out of context but they should also know that this will happen as soon as they open their mouths. Like SoL confirming in the Outrun thread that Sumo are updating the game in his dreams. I'm trying not to jump on every rumour or spoiler between now and the show. At the end of the day these "insiders" don't know shit and if they do they cannot say because they'll lose their status and connections with the PR side of things.

 

I think they know what they say will get twisted by some people but they don't seem bothered by it unless someone is claiming they've said something offensive. I like the podcast as it's an easy listen on a Saturday morning. It was just a bit of a "wait a minute" moment to go from listening to a podcast to seeing someone making wild claims about that same podcast. 

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1 hour ago, Sarlaccfood said:

Has the Ubisoft conference tanked anyone’s expectations for this and Nintendo now?

 

Devs are obviously struggling no matter how much people on here insist they should have gotten over working through the pandemic by now. 
 

Feeling a bit bummed out now tbh.

I try not to go into any of these shows expecting loads and loads of amazing stuff. As long as the presentation moves along quickly and I see one or two new, or new to me at least, games that look cool then I'm happy enough. 

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I love this utter nonsense about "just move to the cloud and give people laptops". My kids haven't physically been to school since March 2020, but please do tell me how every industry should have easily adjusted to the pandemic.

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The collaborative creative process of gamemaking is somewhat unique. What used to be a simple matter of calling everyone to attention for a few minutes has turned into planned meetings, which take longer even as clockwork.

 

Probably not a huge difference per instance, but when every interaction takes longer than sliding your chair across the office I'm sure it adds up. Masters of Doom gives a great sense of how important it is to throw ideas around, and although big-name devs don't enjoy that level of freedom these days, their teams are much larger.

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6 hours ago, the_debaser said:


I work for a large software dev, not gaming, and Covid has had no effect other than the sales prospects to some customers. Dev wise nothing has changed. Nintendo and MS will blow us away. 

Discounting cultural factors when determining the likely impact of the pandemic is nuts. Even before we just look at how many PS5 launch games have actually launched in summer 2021 or later, and how many games have otherwise slipped to 2022.

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So today is the day! Can’t wait for this one; I can’t lie I’m most excited about Flight Sim, it was the game that sold me on a Series X in the first place and it’s the game most likely to at least see a release sometime soon, so at least I won’t be getting my hopes up for nothing! Seriously though I cannot wait to just chill out with it, doing full flights to just going for a little jaunt now and again, it’s going to be awesome. 
 

After that though all eyes will be on Halo Infinite; can 343 turn around peoples opinions after the poor reception given to it after the last showing? I think so, if nothing else they’re a developer who know how to make nice looking games, Halo 5 looks phenomenal running in 4K at 60fps, and Halo 4 is sheer wizardry. So I’ve no doubts there, I just hope they’ve built a good enough game to live up to the Halo name, so much is riding on this. 
 

Forza is just going to blow peoples minds I reckon. Have you played Forza Horizon 4 on Series X? It’s incredible looking, I basically don’t know how they can improve on that, but they will. 
 

What games are you looking forward to seeing?

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