Nintendo Switch OLED - who needs 4k, dat screen

[ZOK]

2 hours ago, LaveDisco said:

 

2017 was four years ago. How long should a console last? Three years? Big games can take four years to develop.

 

I don’t know when the Switch was released,  sorry. Choose a date, the point still stands.

[ZOK]

34 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

 

Ooh I'm a Switch fanboy now?

 

Superb! I think that's the only one I was missing on this forum!

 

 

I’m struggling to see where I quoted you, sorry. Otherwise I’m not sure why you are quoting me.

[ZOK]

3 hours ago, Calashnikov said:

Sure. It doesn’t need a performance upgrade. But it really fucking needs a performance upgrade. Ya know?

 

The Switch OLED is disappointing as fuck and we all know it.

Indeed. 
 

I’m not sure why people are reacting so vehemently to the observation, it’s hardly controversial.

 

EDIT: Unless people who are buying one are upset by people making the observation that is, which if that is the case, is just silly.

[Dudley]

17 minutes ago, ZOK said:

You’re very weird about this. 

 

[ZOK]

Oh.

[Stanley]

2 minutes ago, ZOK said:

I don’t know when the Switch was released,  sorry. Choose a date, the point still stands.

So you’re saying that either;

a) The Switch was released too early and they should have waited until the hardware was sufficient enough to eliminate some very minor frame rate dips, or;

b) The game was fine but after 4 years you’ve decided it doesn’t run properly and these same minor issues are no longer acceptable. 
 

Which is it? 

[ZOK]

4 hours ago, ZOK said:

That’s my whole (and endlessly repeated) point. The Switch is long in the tooth and needs more power. What was acceptable in 2017 or whatever does not cut the mustard today.

 

[Mystacon]

FFS, it’s an un-winnable argument on both sides. It doesn’t matter!

 

Let’s all just have our opinions and have a massive hug. 

[Dudley]

The most powerful handheld by a country mile, a system only half way through the average life span of a modern system, is "long in the tooth" because 1 person doesn't like how a launch game runs.

 

Mad.

[Stanley]

I think it’s more that whilst most people here would welcome a more powerful model with improved performance, we’ve accepted that it’s not happening, because what else can you do? It’s futile to argue otherwise IMO, this is Nintendo after all. 
 

Aside from that I don’t actually think it matters that much, not for most of the games Nintendo releases. 
 

I mean if @ZOKcan point to issues with performance in any upcoming titles that he’s concerned about, be my guest, but they all look fine to me, maybe I’m just more tolerant I don’t know. I still think the Switch is pretty magical. 

[Mystacon]

Bearing in mind what I just said in my last post, I will just say let’s consider for a moment how spoiled we’ve become.

 

Slight performance drops aside, we’re now able to play proper, full fledged AAA games on a bloody handheld. It’s nuts.

[ZOK]

I honestly don’t get your point @Stanley. I agree, the Switch is magical. It’s pretty much my favourite console ever.

 

It’s also woefully underpowered in today’s market and can’t run games like BOTW and Enter the Gungeon properly, so it needs an upgrade to give it more juice under the hood.

[ZOK]

Also I have no clue what games are coming up on Switch, I don’t pay much attention to them.

[Mystacon]

3 minutes ago, Stanley said:

I mean if @ZOKcan point to issues with performance in any upcoming titles that he’s concerned about, be my guest, but they all look fine to me, maybe I’m just more tolerant I don’t know. I still think the Switch is pretty magical. 

I will say, I think this is slightly unfair, even though it works both ways.

 

Nobody really knows how ‘upcoming’ titles will perform until someone gets their hands on them and reports back.

[ZOK]

12 minutes ago, Dudley said:

The most powerful handheld by a country mile, a system only half way through the average life span of a modern system, is "long in the tooth" because 1 person doesn't like how a launch game runs.

 

Mad.

Yes, I’m the only person saying it. 

[Dudley]

2 minutes ago, ZOK said:

It’s pretty much my favourite console ever.

 

Just now, ZOK said:

Also I have no clue what games are coming up on Switch, I don’t pay much attention to them.

 

[Dudley]

You're a great poster Zok but this whole rant slides in just below "Leave Britney alone" for level of unhinged.

[ZOK]

Just now, Mystacon said:

Nobody really knows how ‘upcoming’ titles will perform until someone gets their hands on them and reports back.

 
Careful now, that’s the sort of talk that really seems to get people’s knickers in a twist!

[ZOK]

1 minute ago, Dudley said:

 

 

Why do you find that odd? If a new game is really good I’ll hear about it in here, I don’t pay any attention otherwise.

[ZOK]

1 minute ago, Dudley said:

You're a great poster Zok but this whole rant slides in just below "Leave Britney alone" for level of unhinged.

Really? I wasn’t aware I was ranting, or saying anything even mildly controversial. I remember when the OLED was announced when people were expecting the ‘Pro’ version, and afaik most people felt the same.

[LaveDisco]

Also, it might not want to be the reference point Dudley wants,  because the ‘leave Britney alone” guy was derided by the mob, and yet turned out to be right. He was talking about the conservatorship and everything. 

[ZOK]

1 minute ago, LaveDisco said:

Also, it might not want to be the reference point Dudley wants,  because the ‘leave Britney alone” guy was derided by the mob, and yet turned out to be right. 

That does sound like me in this thread. Although don’t forget I was right at the start too. 

[Radish]

30 minutes ago, Dudley said:

The most powerful handheld by a country mile, a system only half way through the average life span of a modern system, is "long in the tooth" because 1 person doesn't like how a launch game runs.

 

Mad.

 

For another two and a bit months, anyway. 

 

Not entirely sure why but I've decided to get on board the hype train and pre order one. I do wish it was a Switch Pro instead but eh, it still looks better than no Switch at all. 

[Jamie John]

I sold my Switch about a month ago in preparation for the OLED, and as much as I agree that it's a comparatively underpowered console, I have to say that I've missed not having one a lot more than I thought I would. Roll on next Friday, I say.

[LaveDisco]

@ZOK, Your as right as every other person on the internet that doesn’t get Nintendo.

 

Your not wrong, but it’s Nintendo’s pigheaded, short sighted “wrong” stuff that keeps Nintendo afloat. They would be another Sega, Atari, Amiga, Konami if it wasn’t for all the “wrong” things they do. 

[ZOK]

Yes, I get that. I certainly don’t fault their business acumen.

[the_debaser]

To be fair the switch should be about 10 times more powerful. A 10 minute battery life is the price we must pay. 

[Stanley]

7 hours ago, ZOK said:

I honestly don’t get your point @Stanley. I agree, the Switch is magical. It’s pretty much my favourite console ever.

 

It’s also woefully underpowered in today’s market and can’t run games like BOTW and Enter the Gungeon properly, so it needs an upgrade to give it more juice under the hood.

Well then it was underpowered right from the start wasn’t it, BOTW being a launch title and Gungeon following shortly after, we’re going round in circles. 
 

Sable on Xbox Series X runs like absolute dog shit, perhaps you think that console is underpowered too? 
 

As for “today’s market” what are you comparing it against, Xbox, PlayStation, iPhone? The Switch occupies a pretty unique space. Sure there are lots of more powerful alternatives but none of them really offer the same thing, or even similar. 

[Kevvy Metal]

Enter the Gungeon running/hitching badly on Switch has absolutely nothing to do with the power of the Switch. 
It was likely ported without much care and also Unity sucks, especially at asset streaming. 
 

Does Hades or countless similar games run badly? No, they don’t. 

[ZOK]

5 hours ago, Stanley said:

Well then it was underpowered right from the start wasn’t it, BOTW being a launch title and Gungeon following shortly after, we’re going round in circles. 
 

Sable on Xbox Series X runs like absolute dog shit, perhaps you think that console is underpowered too? 
 

As for “today’s market” what are you comparing it against, Xbox, PlayStation, iPhone? The Switch occupies a pretty unique space. Sure there are lots of more powerful alternatives but none of them really offer the same thing, or even similar. 

Yes, arguably it was underpowered at launch, but that’s irrelevant today because that’s what people bought when they bought it years ago. And, yet again, it is why the upgrade it requires today is not a new screen and a new stand, but more power.

 

‘Today’s market’ is one where 4K tellies have become mass market, and the Switch looks pretty sad when it can’t take advantage of that resolution. What other consoles can do is not an issue, it’s about what the Switch can’t do.