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OK a big of sensationalist headline.

 

Apparently all sticks in the controllers are made by ALPS who rate the operational life at 400 hours.

 

Looking at the design they are using graphite tracks to measure resistance on the sticks which given these pads cost around £50-70 seems a bit crazy. I'm sure they could use a none contact way of measuring movement on the sticks using optics or something. Really odd they are using such ancient technology here on supposedly cutting edge gaming technology on the most important component of the system - the bit you interact with. 

 

Saying all this personally never had any issues with any of my pads even the old 360 controllers I've recently being using the sticks are fine. Perhaps the newer components are lower grade - so cheaper or people are just playing a hell of a lot more these days.

 

If the average controller costs around £70 and it's operational life is rated at 400 hours that's 17.5p an hour which to me isn't a huge amount. Also the average life of components is usually a pessimistic rating from my experience and you get much more life out of them.

 

What are your experiences and feelings?! 

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2 minutes ago, Garwoofoo said:

400 hours doesn't seem like much at all for a controller costing over £50. There will be people in this thread who have put that amount of time into a single game.

 

And if you average an hour a day you'll only get just over a year before it's expected to fail. If you play four hours a day it will only last three months!

 

400 hours can't be right (I've not watched the video).

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Really makes me reflect on the wabi-sabi nature of transient materiality.

 

That's why I take the time to really appreciate every liquid smooth movement of the analogue sticks, every clunk, click of the haptic triggers and the gentle depression of the squidgy, greasy D-pad. I'm fortunate to experience my own nervous system in this one and only unrepeatable moment in unfathomable time. 

 

... 

 

Shit breaks, buy another. 

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The only controller I've ever experienced to completely fail and become unusable is the Xbox 360 pad. 

I've gone through at least 6 of them, and that's not with absolutely insane hours on them. 

I still have the same two PS3 controllers and same two PS4 controller and they're completely fine. 

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I fully expect my PS5 controller to be fucked within a year to 18 months. 

 

I expect my Xbox Series controller to last a full generation without issue. Like my Xbox Duke, 360 and XB1 controller did. 

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All these videos are throwing around the same figure based on one site's analysis of how much they moved the controller during a session of CoD: Warzone. I'm not sure it's as clinical as terrible clickbait videos are making out.

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4 minutes ago, Ry said:

I fully expect my PS5 controller to be fucked within a year to 18 months. 

 

I expect my Xbox Series controller to last a full generation without issue. Like my Xbox Duke, 360 and XB1 controller did. 

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But that's the weird thing, this should've then be a problem for ages already. I've replaced an old PS4 controller, mostly because it was the one I got with the launch, and after more than 5 years its stick surfaces were really worn out; it was still working fine though!

 

Maybe they mean 400 hours of contact usage? Like rolling the sticks around constantly for 400 hours?

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1 minute ago, Marlew said:

PS5 pad will defo get fucked quicker by virtue of having stuff to play on it. 

The Xbox pad can be used on more than just Xbox Series exclusives you know ;)

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I think the only controller I've used for any amount of time which hasn't had stick drift is GameCube. Controllers are shitly built and way too expensive. I absolutely loathe spending money on them. 

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3 minutes ago, Pob said:

The Xbox pad can be used on more than just Xbox Series exclusives you know ;)

 

Also, been using Xbox controllers for PC stuff and those are not having any issues as well.

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I’m on my 7th PS4 controller (I have two as battery life is so poor) and they are flakey as hell but it’s rarely the sticks that go outside the launch ones that fell apart - I know the current one has more than 400 hours on it and it’s fine, it’s got no drift or any trigger issues and they get hammered on FPS games 90% of the time.

 

I would fully expect the PS5 pads to fall apart and fail as Sony have awful reliability built into to anything they make but even I think this video and all the others are just silly click bait nonsense - some people will have sticks fail in under 400 and others last 3 times that.

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Anecdotally I've had more problems with Xbox One controllers than with anything since the N64 - generally with buttons sticking or not responding - although to be fair they were the early revisions of the controller. I've been using an Elite 2 for the past year and the damn thing feels indestructible.

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I've literally never had an issue with the analogue sticks on any controller I've ever owned apart from the rubber on both of my launch PS4 controllers ripping apart after a few years. 

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I don't think I've had many official pads become useless other than the N64 stick which would become creaky and unresponsive as it ground itself to dust and the launch PS4 pad whose rubber peeled away from the stick after <20 hours of use (though it was still technically useable).

 

 

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The figure sounds alarming, but it’s not really borne out by my own experience (or the experience of most people on here, it seems). I’ve had a PS4 since launch, and I’ve had one controller die completely - one of the original black models, that seemed to physically decay as if they were cursed with some kind of necromancy. My other two pads seem to have *touches wood* lasted pretty well given that I’ve used one probably at least for an hour a day in aggregate - the L3 button is a bit erratic on one pad, and the other is fine. If that figure were right, I’d have gotten through at least six controllers in that time.
 

Unless the current-gen pads are significantly different in some way (and it sounds like they’re not) this sounds like more fear porn for gamers desperate to be righteously angry about something. 

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Likely all depends on the games you play, how many hours a day, and the force you use. Also some controllers are manufactured and quality checked on Monday morning.
 

I personally never had issues with any controller I have ever owned from every system from the first Game Boy till the Series X today except the Switch joycons which are literal cons. 
 

 

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All the pads I've had fail on me are for a multitude of reasons. Xbox One Titanfall pad wouldn't keep synced, Xbox One Sea of Thieves pad had right stick drift, Xbox Elite V1 pad broke in some manner I forget where Amazon replaced it and the second one the right stick is proper fucked on it for no real reason. I had a Master Chief pad where the d-pad went faulty eventually.

 

PS4 pads have been a combination of fucked battery and stick problems, but not as many as Xbox because it didn't get nearly as much use.

 

The silver Xbox 360 pad I had the fucking battery holder perished. Not the thing you put the batteries in but the thing that it clips into the pad with. It just cracked and wouldn't hold the battery cartridge thing in place. That was complete bullshit.

 

My white Xbox one pad feels proper floppy and loose compared to the Series X pad which I think it a combination of wear and tear and lower production standards.

 

I don't think it's too tin foil hat to think that pads are machined to a standard that means they will probably wear out sooner rather than later. it doesn't mean making them shit, just that they'll go earlier than you think.

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I've had the same Xbox One pad since I bought the xbox one. 

I do also have 4 broken xbox one pads my mate has had fail on him which I'm looking to fix up - on each one the problem is with the stick drifting or getting stuck in one direction.

It's theoretically a quick and inexpensive job to replace a stick but it's a fiddly bit of de-soldering to handle.

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I don't know what everyone else here is like in regards to their tech but there's still a lot of people (I know some personally) that still rage quit/ throw controllers about the room when they lose.

 

Also one friend of mine has the most ridiculous sweaty hands while playing some games (and isn't otherwise some sort of sweat monster) which don't seem to do his controllers any favours. 

 

So I imagine there's a wide range of how people actually use their controllers, as well as any corner cutting the manufacturers might do. 

 

I do think that all controllers are stupidly expensive though and I still find buying a 2nd one so I can play some games 2p is a bit of a piss take. What happened to two in the box!?

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I've gone through 3 xbox one pads. 2 of which MS fixed under warranty, 1 for stick drift and 1 for RB doing multiple clicks. I guess because we're just expected to throw stuff away and replace, they figure they can get away with manufacturing crap.

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