Formula One 2021 - DRAMA - #Michael Messy

[SeanR]

8 minutes ago, kiroquai said:

I really hope they don’t do the podium celebration - kinda need to read the room. That said, it’s FOM so no doubt the podium and champagne goes ahead.

Uh…

[Blue]

Who would deny George his first podium? Only a monster!

[ryodi]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

Who would deny George his first podium? Only a monster!

 

With this and The Sprint™ I say we don't bother with the Sunday race anymore, it's more trouble than it's worth. 

[layten]

[mexos]

This is absolutely pathetic. 

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, mexos said:

This is absolutely pathetic. 

Lewis looks like he agrees.

[mexos]

The problem is that the ‘result’ today will absolutely change the finishing order of the championship for someone. So this year’s championship is now tainted by this bullshit.

 

The race should have been abandoned. 

[layten]

Lando.  

[mexos]

Lewis sticks the knife in. Good man.

[mexos]

Sky doing a Kuenssberg in that MM interview. Totally let him off the hook.

[mexos]

 

If ever there was an image that sums this all up, it’s that.

[kiroquai]

I feel really sorry for Spa. They’ve had snow at the WEC earlier in the year, then the flooding, then the circuit director being murdered a few weeks ago and now this. A terrible, terrible year for such a wonderful circuit.

[Rocafella]

9 minutes ago, mexos said:

Lewis sticks the knife in. Good man.

 

What did he say?

[SMD]

Masi is fucking awful, he doesn't know what to do and can't seem to make any decisions. I know he suddenly had to take over but it's been years now.

 

We got to the right conclusion eventually but how we got there was a farce. Either start the race behind the safety car and see if the cars going round could make a line or call it off. Waiting hours when the rain was never going to stop was just insulting to the fans and the teams. And it fucked with everyone's plans as it all ran over - the last thing you want to do during covid is fuck around with the logistics.

 

Happy for Russell but just abysmal management of the race.

[mexos]

5 minutes ago, Rocafella said:

 

What did he say?

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/hamilton-f1-made-bad-choice-running-two-laps-money-talks/6656881/

[mexos]

7 minutes ago, SMD said:

Masi is fucking awful, he doesn't know what to do and can't seem to make any decisions. I know he suddenly had to take over but it's been years now.

Yup, I think it’s time to go.

[ryodi]

Hard to argue with this.

 

 

Absolute clown show because a red flag means the go back one lap but I’m sure they’ll find a way to massage the rules so points are awarded.

 

 

[SMD]

7 minutes ago, mexos said:

Yup, I think it’s time to go.

 

He should've gone when he started Q2 in Turkey with the recovery vehicle still on the circuit. That was unforgiveable. All the other shit is incompetence that adds up but that should've seen him resign immediately.

[The Bag]

53 minutes ago, layten said:

Surely it should be Alan van der Merwe, he did more laps than anyone today.

[SMD]

 

[Blue]

52 minutes ago, mexos said:

The problem is that the ‘result’ today will absolutely change the finishing order of the championship for someone. So this year’s championship is now tainted by this bullshit.

 

The race should have been abandoned. 

 

It isn't tainted. Not if you're looking for an excuse as to how it affects anyone's finishing order at any rate. It may have been a complete fiasco but the rules cover situations such as this, so as disappointing as it is for all concerned, the points are legitimate. It's a race weekend and on this weekend, qualifying was even more important than usual. 

[Blue]

15 minutes ago, SMD said:

 

They should have a good chance of appealing this I'd have thought, as no-one, including Massey it seems, knew whether the race had started or not when the wing was changed.

[layten]

2 hours ago, GwiDan said:

The monkey paw had to cancel the whole race to stop him winning today. 

 

[layten]

 

They really are making this shit up as they go along.

[JohnC]

A 1 lap race where overtaking was forbidden.

[TehStu]

I've fixed the tables in the original post to match @T Pot formatting as best I can, using some new table editing tools I added to CKEditor. Supporters/Donors and mods can leverage the control to edit these tables in the OP without the need to fart around with the underlying HTML now.

 

Sorry it didn't quite match the original formatting but it's Sunday and I'm half asleep.

[SeanR]

6 minutes ago, JohnC said:

A 1 lap race where overtaking was forbidden.

its the future of formula one!

[Mr Do 71]

Better award the points, we don’t want Red Bull moaning again.

[mexos]

1 hour ago, Blue said:

 

It isn't tainted. Not if you're looking for an excuse as to how it affects anyone's finishing order at any rate. It may have been a complete fiasco but the rules cover situations such as this, so as disappointing as it is for all concerned, the points are legitimate. It's a race weekend and on this weekend, qualifying was even more important than usual. 

When they sent the cars back out they 100% knew no actual racing would take place. It was done purely to trigger the rules everyone is talking about. By the letter of the law the can do this but it is cynical in the extreme and to me if it does change the championship order it has tainted the championship.

 

Half points for a race that has been halted mid race is understandable. Half points on a technicality with no racing is not. 
 

I very much hope that come the end of the season it doesn’t actually make any difference to anyone’s championship position. But it almost certainly will for someone and to me that is not right. Alfa for example now have zero chance of overtaking Williams. 

[layten]

As atrocious as this weekend was, and the FIA once and for all confirming the only thing they give any fucks about is the money. We did get this one single glorious moment.