Mass Effect Legendary Edition

[Dudley]

11 hours ago, JoeK said:

 

There is *never* any benefit of pre-ordering.

 

Ever.

 

But - even after my moaning about the prices - I'll probably end up doing it.

 

Because I am a fool who loves too much.

 

If you order physical edition from ShopTo you generally get to play a horribly broken version a day early before the patch turns up.

 

I'm not sure whether I'm agreeing with you now.

[Harrisown]

1 hour ago, Oz said:

Thanks for posting this. This dude’s beard is really irritating to me for some reason. Why is he shaving just his upper lip? Or have they removed it with cg? 

You Know when you spend hours in the character creator making the perfect character and then start the game and see him in the first cut scene 

[Harrisown]

Wow 

[Thor]

26 minutes ago, Harrisown said:

Wow 

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[Ran]

5 minutes ago, Thor said:

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The forum quadrupled his post. Looks fixed now

[df0]

Do you reckon this'll be treated like three separate games each with their separate trophies like the Bioshock Collection? I sure do hope so, all those sweet sweet trophies.

[IcEBuRN]

The more I think about this, the more I cry that they didn't make the actual effort to port this to UE4. Especially as UE5 is right round the corner.

 

DISCLAIMER: I am a graphics whore.

[Alex W.]

Wouldn’t we just have a Batman situation where everything looks basically the same but lit differently and some effects don’t work? It’s not like they would’ve gone in and updated the models, textures and lighting to the standard of games originally developed for UE4.

[Spacehost]

6 minutes ago, IcEBuRN said:

The more I think about this, the more I cry that they didn't make the actual effort to port this to UE4. Especially as UE5 is right round the corner.

 

DISCLAIMER: I am a graphics whore.

It would have been a pretty mammoth undertaking, for very little gain unless they also went in and rebuilt all the assets and technology to take advantage of the new engine features.

[Ran]

I think it's great to have all 3 brought up to some kind of parity in a single package. As much as I get all weirdly frothy and excited for full remakes I think what they've done here is the best approach with all the proper focus on crafting a new entry. The way Andromeda was received too hopefully means they will make sure it's a rock solid launch and we get the best Mass Effect to date.

[IcEBuRN]

2 minutes ago, Spacehost said:

It would have been a pretty mammoth undertaking, for very little gain unless they also went in and rebuilt all the assets and technology to take advantage of the new engine features.

 

I don't doubt you for a second Spacey! But, they are charging 60 quid for it...I'm willing to bet porting/building new graphics and assets is a shit ton less work then building a whole new Mass Effect from scratch. Not to mention a whole new story, actors, scripts, level design, rah rah you get the picture.

[Thor]

1 minute ago, IcEBuRN said:

 

I don't doubt you for a second Spacey! But, they are charging 60 quid for it...I'm willing to bet porting/building new graphics and assets is a shit ton less work then building a whole new Mass Effect from scratch. Not to mention a whole new story, actors, scripts, level design, rah rah you get the picture.

That's £20 per game, and includes all the DLC, which is a more than somewhat substantial offering. 

[Spacehost]

18 minutes ago, IcEBuRN said:

 

I don't doubt you for a second Spacey! But, they are charging 60 quid for it...I'm willing to bet porting/building new graphics and assets is a shit ton less work then building a whole new Mass Effect from scratch. Not to mention a whole new story, actors, scripts, level design, rah rah you get the picture.

They would effectively be rebuilding every game and all the DLC from scratch. You could maybe reuse audio assets but given how relatively straightforward that is vs redoing three games' worth of code by that point you're at Demons Souls remake levels of work so you might as well do everything.

[df0]

I also like to think EA/Bioware know how much fans have been frothing at the mouth over the remake rumours. After the rather disappointing Andromeda reception, I believe they want to to the best possible job within reason. That means: same engine, better textures, better effects, some changes to the UI, 60 fps, 4K, HDR (?), reduced loading times etc.

Three games and a ton of story DLC that accumulates to what, 120 hours of gameplay if you play through each game just once (and who does that right? At least 2 runs; 1 paragon, 1 renegade)? For 60 quid, that's a steal.

[Alex W.]

I sat down and worked it out at one point and I think I’d spent upwards of £150 on Mass Effect and its DLC, despite being gifted two of the games.

[Alex W.]

1 hour ago, IcEBuRN said:

 

I don't doubt you for a second Spacey! But, they are charging 60 quid for it...I'm willing to bet porting/building new graphics and assets is a shit ton less work then building a whole new Mass Effect from scratch. Not to mention a whole new story, actors, scripts, level design, rah rah you get the picture.

I think making the “graphics” for the game (modelling all the objects, drawing textures for them, actually texturing them, rigging them, scripting them, and all the programming support to make these things possible) is where almost all of the cost of making a modern game lies.

[Harrisown]

I don’t think we’ve seen enough to really say what effort they’ve put into this but if you believe what IGN are saying it’s literally an update that you won’t notice unless you do a side by side with the originals.
 

When you play it , it’ll look just like you remember....or at least how your brain has stored your previous experiences. The only draw back is the animation will probably look worse than you remember and god only knows how the combat holds up after all this time.

 

I did watch a random YouTube video of it on 360 and yeah the animation is stilted and lacks detail but still the quality voice acting and dialogue shines through.

 

Hopefully i can obsess about it all over again and it does well and they do make a proper mass effect game once again.

I just get the feeling it’s all too hard to do though and it would cost too much money and no one is really up for the commercial risk and none of the fans will ever be satisfied.....Mass Effect is the new Sonic.

 

 

 

 

[Dudley]

Absolutely, you might as well be surprised making the live action Aladdin was expensive given they already had the script from 1992.

[Thor]

10 minutes ago, Harrisown said:

When you play it , it’ll look just like you remember....or at least how your brain has stored your previous experiences. The only draw back is the animation will probably look worse than you remember and god only knows how the combat holds up after all this time.

2 and 3 are still brilliant to play. Satisfying gunplay, with the powers being even more satisfying. I replayed them last year on PC with Hi-res texture mods. 

[IcEBuRN]

2 hours ago, Dudley said:

Absolutely, you might as well be surprised making the live action Aladdin was expensive given they already had the script from 1992.

Yeah, cmon mate. I know that's a pisstake example, but that's not even remotely comparable.

 

That ME1 exmaple. They literally said they took the old level, and added effects, and burning debris. It would be more akin to filming alladin in 1992. Reusing the old sets, tarting  them up, and using red 6k cameras.

[mdn2]

23 hours ago, Oz said:

Wonder if some of the camera placement for Miranda will be a bit out of place in 2021. I think it would be a shame if they mess with that. I would rather they just do bum shots for more male characters to balance it out. 

 

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In an interview with Metro, Mass Effect: Legendary Edition's Project Director Mac Walters said that the team changed certain camera angles that were deemed gratuitous. "Kevin [Meek] actually called out some camera cuts that were just.... why was that focusing on Miranda's butt?," Walters explained. So in some cases, we said, 'Okay, we can make a change there'."

Elsewhere in the interview, Character and Environment Director Kevin Meek alludes to another low camera shot where a male Shepherd is sat with his legs open. The developers were unable to change the animation itself, but they could alter the position of the camera to change how the shot is framed. "If you were wearing a skirt, it would be a bit unflattering," Meek explains. "So we can’t necessarily change that animation, but you can raise that camera up slightly to reduce the problem.’

The developers stopped short of changing entire character models, noting that the camera shots that they did change were "a decision that was made as part of many creative decisions and just showing it at the best possible fidelity that we could going forward".

https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-legendary-edition-changes-some-gratuitious-camera-shots?amp=1

[Oz]

59 minutes ago, mdn2 said:

 

https://www.ign.com/articles/mass-effect-legendary-edition-changes-some-gratuitious-camera-shots?amp=1

Guess it’s now in the hands of the mod community. I am starting my petition now in any case. I will also  issue some dead threats to developers on Twitter. #bumgate

[Mars]

Rear windu. 

[mdn2]

With nowhere better to put this:

 

Voiceover for the new game? Or possible new TV series with Cavill?

[df0]

This reeks of "I want to see those words".

It can literally be anything.

[Wiper]

I don't care what anyone else says, he's going to make a beautiful Tali.

[Thor]

 

He'd a make a great Shepard. I know many say Femshep is the best, but not for me. My first run through the original Mass Effect will always be special, and that was with the original Sheploo. Henry Cavill fits the bill. I'd love a TV series, but honestly ... it would be RIDICULOUSLY expensive. All those effects! And would they use prosthetics or CGI for the alien species?

 

Also, Brandon Keener for Garrus or GTFO. Honestly, recasting him would be like replacing Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime. 

[Alex W.]

I played around with Focus Magic myself and although it clearly says "Tali Zorah" and "Admiral", I think that first word might be "Carbonara" and not "Cerberus", and that could be "Goth" and not "Geth". 

[Don Wiskerando]

2 hours ago, Alex W. said:

I played around with Focus Magic myself and although it clearly says "Tali Zorah" and "Admiral", I think that first word might be "Carbonara" and not "Cerberus", and that could be "Goth" and not "Geth". 

It says Frei Gomar

 

[squirtle]