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I believe I’ve some experience with pad failures, and the numbers are about even (PS4 stick rot aside) for both consoles.

 

I think they’re quite good, in the right hands, so to speak. But will suffer higher rates of “wear and tear” among the doyens of a gaming forum, non?

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The only thing wrong with my 360 pads are that the little texture on top of the sticks have worn out, nothing like the stick rot of DS4. I've had no issues with the XB1 pads. Now, joycons? Even ones purchased recently? They're a complete joke.

 

I think apart from design issues (joycons.. in general. The weak rubber on DS4 sticks. Design issues on Elites?) I suspect they're all much of a muchness, and wear at about the rate you'd expect them to. Although, I completely agree on the texture of plastic on the Series pads, it's lousy. I wish they had the rubber back of my Forza ed XB1 pad, although I assume the Elite does. Anyway, my kids have treated the Xbox pads like crap for years, so I don't agree that they "have terrible build quality full stop".

 

Fascinating pad discussion aside, could someone please recommend a cheap headset for the kids to use? Right now, they're yelling from upstairs to downstairs, and vice versa, while playing Grounded multiplayer. I had enough of this so had them setup a party and use earbuds that happen to have mics built in. But they're pretty awful and they could do with having the mic closer to the mouth.

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3 hours ago, TehStu said:

The only thing wrong with my 360 pads are that the little texture on top of the sticks have worn out, nothing like the stick rot of DS4. I've had no issues with the XB1 pads. Now, joycons? Even ones purchased recently? They're a complete joke.

 

I think apart from design issues (joycons.. in general. The weak rubber on DS4 sticks. Design issues on Elites?) I suspect they're all much of a muchness, and wear at about the rate you'd expect them to. Although, I completely agree on the texture of plastic on the Series pads, it's lousy. I wish they had the rubber back of my Forza ed XB1 pad, although I assume the Elite does. Anyway, my kids have treated the Xbox pads like crap for years, so I don't agree that they "have terrible build quality full stop".

 

Fascinating pad discussion aside, could someone please recommend a cheap headset for the kids to use? Right now, they're yelling from upstairs to downstairs, and vice versa, while playing Grounded multiplayer. I had enough of this so had them setup a party and use earbuds that happen to have mics built in. But they're pretty awful and they could do with having the mic closer to the mouth.

I got my boys some Turtle Beach ones that seem decent enough.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07NQXBZM9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_233NCPV5V2GXFEFZJ38K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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Just started Doom Eternal again after the recent upgrade. I remember it feeling a bit off when I first played it, but it’s staggeringly good. Think I might even prefer it to the first new one.

 

It seems to run steadily at 60fps with full ray-tracing, so I’m wondering why you’d ever choose not to do that. Resi VIII was the same.

 

Seems weird that lesser games like Fallen Order take a significant fps hit when in pretty mode, even once upgraded.

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TehStu

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2 hours ago, womblingfree said:

It seems to run steadily at 60fps with full ray-tracing, so I’m wondering why you’d ever choose not to do that. Resi VIII was the same.

Awesome. I couldn't remember which Doom to grab, haven't played any since 3. Meant to ask which I should play :)

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16 minutes ago, TehStu said:

Awesome. I couldn't remember which Doom to grab, haven't played any since 3. Meant to ask which I should play :)

Play Doom Eternal, there’ll be people here who tell you to play 2016 first, and that it’s better, but they’re dead wrong. 

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Mr. Gerbik

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1 hour ago, TehStu said:

Awesome. I couldn't remember which Doom to grab, haven't played any since 3. Meant to ask which I should play :)

DOOM 2016 is perfect DOOM. Everything is exactly as it should be. Doom Eternal is the Halo 2 of Doom, with iD Software convinced of their lore exposition skills and going way too zany in tone, making it awkward. While the combat in Doom 2016 is a perfect thrilling balance of balls to the wall action, they decided to stack systems upon systems upon systems in Eternal as if Xzibit was in charge of producing the sequel, taking away from the purity of the first. Like Halo 2 it has a handful of loud fans who are a tad too defensive, but Doom 2016 is one of the best shooters ever made and Eternal is not.

 

Hope that helps :)

 

 

 

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Mr. Gerbik

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@TehStuI'll help you with an actual answer, more serious and actually useful. Doom 2016 is the safe choice. *Everyone* loved that game. It's brilliant. Doom Eternal is incredibly divisive. A lot of people dislike it and say it's worse, a lot of people loved it and say it's better. But all agree that Doom 2016 is brilliant fun. So you can't go wrong with that one. Play Eternal after and see if you like it

 

Edit: you already decided :)

 

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Definitely start with 2016. Eternal - for me - has a groove that doesn't get established for hours of gameplay, but once it clicks in, it's absolutely incredible. Like, genuinely thrilling, tense, strategic mayhem in the combat, dynamic scenes that look like they've been ripped from metal album covers. But it builds on 2016.

 

They're fantastic games, but I'll give eternal one black mark at least for having unreadable tiny text and icons on the in game UI and title screens.

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2 hours ago, Wahwah* said:

Not for me. I like it very much.

It's definitely not a bad game, I was stunned by how little I enjoyed playing it though, which is why I say disappointing sequel - I wanted a completely different type of game from what they delivered.

 

It's almost a different genre, from a pure and brilliant FPS to a story-laden first person... character action game?!

 

I suppose it's better than doing the same thing over again. 

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After going from 2016 Doom to Eternal it can be a bit jarring as they’re very different, but Eternal has so much more depth, more variety and is more beautiful. It all at once reminds me of a perfect arcade game, but with D&D elements and weirdly it sometimes reminds me of a Platinum game.

 

Doom 2016 is merely amazing.

 

They’re both essential really.

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CarloOos

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Doom 2016 is in every sense an old-school 90s FPS given a very smart, self-aware, modernised make-over. It’s fun, it’s dumb, it’s gorgeous and it’s surprisingly funny. 
 

Doom Eternal is more like a first person Devil May Cry/Bayonetta, which bizarrely includes the overtly cringey approach to story those games entail. The gameplay is incredibly focused, it’s intensely difficult, it’s more more more of everything but somehow lost a chunk of 2016’s personality along the way. I’ve come to love them both but going from one straight to the other is incredibly jarring, especially considering they’re from the exact same creative team. Fair play to them for not resting on their laurels, I guess.

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Mr. Gerbik

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Titanfall 2 does have one of the best FPS campaigns ever made. I'm not kidding @TehStu, it's brilliant. You'd think it's just a campaign for some multiplayer focused game made by the CoD dudes, but it's actually amazing. If you've not played it, you must. The first level is just a shooter and then slowly the it becomes something more than that. Runs at 6k/60FPS on the Series X. Yes, it downsamples from 6k.

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I didn’t find Eternal much fun. You just don’t feel like Doom guy, unless of course you think Doom guy is meant to spend half his time running away from fights as he never has any ammo. It is just way too hard and has loads of horrible jumping sections and tonnes of new mechanics that aren’t much fun.
 

2016 is much simpler, it has a dead simple melee gameplay loop to regenerate health and ammo which is perfectly balanced and it has a better soundtrack. One of the best games ever. 
 

Titanfall 2 is good too. 

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