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Can I ask I really stupid question - how do I ensure I'm getting Atmos to my headphones on the pad? I paid for the app, pretty sure I selected headphones and... it isn't really any different.

 

I know I have almost the cheapest headphones possible, waiting for v2 hardware of the official Xbox ones. But still, I was expecting something.

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1 minute ago, TehStu said:

Can I ask I really stupid question - how do I ensure I'm getting Atmos to my headphones on the pad? I paid for the app, pretty sure I selected headphones and... it isn't really any different.

 

I know I have almost the cheapest headphones possible, waiting for v2 hardware of the official Xbox ones. But still, I was expecting something.

I think you'll be waiting a while for v2 of the headphones, they've only just released the current ones. What's wrong with the current ones anyway?

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2 minutes ago, JPL said:

I think you'll be waiting a while for v2 of the headphones, they've only just released the current ones. What's wrong with the current ones anyway?

I can wait. I don't really want to go first on new hardware if I can avoid it. 

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1 minute ago, TehStu said:

I can wait. I don't really want to go first on new hardware if I can avoid it. 

Not sure why, they're supposed to be really good. I'd definitely pick some up if I needed some, but I'm sure a few people on here already have them and will be able to let you know if they're worth getting.

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7 minutes ago, JPL said:

What do you mean by the tab order? I'm pretty sure you can rearrange the order of the guide menu, if that's what you're referring to.

Not the order of the guide menu.

 

So I guess we don't have a "tab" button on the Xbox so I didn't mean the literal tab order, but the design of the navigation in general. There's no neat up/down and left/ right, the layout of actionable things on-screen is all over the place. This would be fine with a mouse, or haha a Kinect, but it doesn't lend itself to a control mechanism which largely gives digital up/down and left/right input (I'm mostly using the d-pad to get around). 

 

For example, open Game Pass app to get to the quests, which are inexplicably buried toward the bottom rather than something you can pin to the guide. Now this screen is largely up/down to get to the section you want, and then left/right to select things on it (good). So you select quests and now you're on a new screen. 3 tabs across the top in the center, and then a nav menu down the left, and then things to scroll through on the right. There's no neat navigation, hitting up and down can go from the top, centered nav to the "scroll through the stuff" on the right, which is NOT a direct up/down movement. So now you're hitting left to get to the left nav to make sure you're on game pass quests instead of the other stuff (achievements? I'm doing all of this via memory).

 

I think it's called the social screen and they need to change it. The navigation in the store, and the game pass app, is better. It should be a grid. Hitting up and down should not also cause the cursor/selection thing to move left/right.

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5 minutes ago, JPL said:

Not sure why, they're supposed to be really good. I'd definitely pick some up if I needed some, but I'm sure a few people on here already have them and will be able to let you know if they're worth getting.

It's a general policy after having experience some v1 hardware woes over the years. Obviously, no avoiding it for a console launch. It is in no way a reflection of these headphones, I'm sure they're great.

 

Anyone know how to verify I'm definitely getting Atmos over my $9.99 Sony tat while plugged into the pad 3.5mm jack?

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18 minutes ago, TehStu said:

Anyone know how to verify I'm definitely getting Atmos over my $9.99 Sony tat while plugged into the pad 3.5mm jack?

 

Make sure you've selected Dolby Atmos for Headphones as the output format in Settings, for a start. And load up the Dolby Access app at least once to enable it.

 

Then you need to play something that actually supports Atmos. One reliable way to check it's working is to load up Netflix or Disney+ - if you go into a movie or show that supports Atmos, it will show up when you click on the movie alongside 4K, HDR and whatever other options it supports. If you don't have Atmos it will just say 5.1.

 

Not many games explicitly support Atmos but even for those that don't, you'll get a decent virtual surround presentation. Also I find the various equaliser presets in the Dolby Access app make a huge difference. I think I settled on Game mode, Performance mode OFF, Equaliser set to Warm, but YMMV.

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2 hours ago, TehStu said:

Can I ask I really stupid question - how do I ensure I'm getting Atmos to my headphones on the pad? I paid for the app, pretty sure I selected headphones and... it isn't really any different.

 

I know I have almost the cheapest headphones possible, waiting for v2 hardware of the official Xbox ones. But still, I was expecting something.

TBH, I don't think spatial audio makes much difference either. I think DTX has demo videos that you can watch and listen to, but I'm honestly not sure they're a great advert.

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A friend of mine is buying a Series X and has the game library sharing thing going on with a friend.

 

How does he set up the Series X to keep the sharing? Log in as the person he's sharing with first, then himself? Will that do?

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Just now, ilpostino said:

A friend of mine is buying a Series X and has the game library sharing thing going on with a friend.

 

How does he set up the Series X to keep the sharing? Log in as the person he's sharing with first, then himself? Will that do?

Just set it up as himself, then add the friend’s details, login as the friend, make it his home console, then log back in as himself.

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Just now, JPL said:

Just set it up as himself, then add the friend’s details, login as the friend, make it his home console, then log back in as himself.

Nice one, thank you.

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It's pretty obvious when you're getting atmos but it does need half-decent headphones to get the most out of it. 

 

Crackdown 3 is a very good showcase to try it out. I can pinpoint those orbs easily with headphone atmos on. 

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6 hours ago, Garwoofoo said:

I tried playing Gears 5 and had no idea what was going on, I guess it assumes you’ve played the previous games. Is Hivebusters any more accessible for newcomers?


I tried it yesterday and found the menus a nightmare and then in the game itself also found it hard finding my way around. Then I gave up.

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7 hours ago, TehStu said:

Not the order of the guide menu.

 

So I guess we don't have a "tab" button on the Xbox so I didn't mean the literal tab order, but the design of the navigation in general. There's no neat up/down and left/ right, the layout of actionable things on-screen is all over the place. This would be fine with a mouse, or haha a Kinect, but it doesn't lend itself to a control mechanism which largely gives digital up/down and left/right input (I'm mostly using the d-pad to get around). 

 

For example, open Game Pass app to get to the quests, which are inexplicably buried toward the bottom rather than something you can pin to the guide. Now this screen is largely up/down to get to the section you want, and then left/right to select things on it (good). So you select quests and now you're on a new screen. 3 tabs across the top in the center, and then a nav menu down the left, and then things to scroll through on the right. There's no neat navigation, hitting up and down can go from the top, centered nav to the "scroll through the stuff" on the right, which is NOT a direct up/down movement. So now you're hitting left to get to the left nav to make sure you're on game pass quests instead of the other stuff (achievements? I'm doing all of this via memory).

 

I think it's called the social screen and they need to change it. The navigation in the store, and the game pass app, is better. It should be a grid. Hitting up and down should not also cause the cursor/selection thing to move left/right.


The way they’ve hidden the game pass quests is crazy...there used to be a nice easy button in the rewards app that took you there. Now you have to hit the menu/x box button , scroll over to achievements and navigate through another menu before you get there.

 

I mean why?

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7 hours ago, dreamylittledream said:


The way they’ve hidden the game pass quests is crazy...there used to be a nice easy button in the rewards app that took you there. Now you have to hit the menu/x box button , scroll over to achievements and navigate through another menu before you get there.

 

I mean why?

Yeah it seems deliberately opaque but as you say, there is no reason for doing that. 

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17 hours ago, TehStu said:

 

 

Anyone know how to verify I'm definitely getting Atmos over my $9.99 Sony tat while plugged into the pad 3.5mm jack?

 

As has been suggested above go into settings->general->volume and audio setting. Make sure that you have the headphones plugged in and in the headset audio format dropdown on the right hand side of the screen you should have Dolby Atmos for Headphones selected.

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I have the new wireless xbox headset and I think it's brilliant personally. In general I found I get a really good sense of spatial audio with the that headset, although I've also used a cheaper headset plugged into the controller and they also sounded good when I tried them out with Foza Horizon 4 and I could certainly get a feel for where other cars were.

 

Gears 5 supports true atmos so is a good one to test. I ended up watching the entire end credits for Hivebusters just because the music sounded amazing, like you were actually sat in the middle of a big hall with the orchestra all around you. A real sense of instruments being near or far, and even some feeling above you, just lovely.

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I don’t understand the mechanics of gamepass at all - is what’s on gamepass not the full game in some cases ? And if they take a game off gamepass that you've downloaded, does it disappear off your drive. I realise these are clueless dad questions…

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51 minutes ago, djbhammer said:

“We believe that games, that interactive entertainment, aren’t really about hardware and software. It’s not about pixels. It’s about people. Games bring people together,” said Spencer. “Games build bridges and forge bonds, generating mutual empathy among people all over the world. Joy and community – that’s why we’re here.”

 

Naw Phil, its about good games. And you fucking know it. People suck and you know it cause i know you read resetera. 

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8 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Oh boy:

 

 

Clearly it's going to be Sega, Capcom, Namco Bandai.....

 


They’re bringing back Ocean, US Gold and Mastertronic.

 

I will have my fourth Magic Knight game eventually....

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I think it's already been confirmed by insiders that there will be some new studio acquisitions but not to expect anything in the AAA realm so temper expectations accordingly 

 

(Not to say they won't be great additions obviously, but before everyone starts throwing Remedy, CDPR and Sega around or something).

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15 minutes ago, Jammy said:

I don’t understand the mechanics of gamepass at all - is what’s on gamepass not the full game in some cases ? And if they take a game off gamepass that you've downloaded, does it disappear off your drive. I realise these are clueless dad questions…

Just think of it like Netflix. If you have it downloaded and it goes off gamepass you just can't play it. 

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Yeah, wanna see some leftfield acquisitions or companies struggling or not doing much. What’s the point of wanting them to buy something like Capcom when they are already productive, outputting and loaded. Look how Rare’s output dropped off a cliff.
 

Someone buy Konami’s IP and give us more Solid Snake adventures!

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2 minutes ago, deerokus said:

Just think of it like Netflix. If you have it downloaded and it goes off gamepass you just can't play it. 

 

I would say think of it more like Amazon video, it's there but you have to pay for it now.

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22 minutes ago, RaoulSilva said:

 

I would say think of it more like Amazon video, it's there but you have to pay for it now.

That's actually a great example. You can just buy stuff digitally, or you can subscribe and get Prime content probably forever and then a revolving door 3rd party stuff. And of course, still buy digitally for a reduced amount, which I think Prime also does.

 

@Jammy it's the full game.

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Kojima Productions, From and Valve purely for the entertainment value. Also Phil put your money where your mouth is. I've been listening to this games for the gamers shite for 4 fucking years now. I've bought your 2 premium consoles and paid full price for Gamepass since you added Sea of Thieves and Crackdown 3. You better deliver this time or I'm gonna keep giving you my money or something.......

 

 

Phil does read here doesn't he ?

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