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Jg15

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34 minutes ago, Stanley said:

Ooh I hope so, God these companies have a way of making me part with my money :doh:

 

What is the promotion btw? 

Possibly Win a Series X, also includes a free 7 day Gamepass trial with every purchase, just have to register on the Pringles website with the promo code on the bottom of the tin to redeem.

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Mr. Gerbik

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5 hours ago, fattakin said:

Question.  My mate and I gameshare so have the standard setup, his xbox series x is my home and my xbox series x is his home. No issues works well.  We both also have our own separate Gamepass Ultimate separate subs stacked for 3 years.

 

My Bro in Law has an unused One S that I was considering borrowing and hooking up to a monitor so my kids can play minecraft / roblox etc in the same room at the same time. If i login with my account and just leave it there, will their accounts be able to play online the way they can on the main series X?  I don't really want to go down the route of having to get them separate xbox live  / gamepass for their accounts. 

The One S can't be set as your home Xbox because you can only have one home Xbox. And that's already your mate's Xbox since you're game sharing with him.

 

On the One S your kids will be able to play online on YOUR account. But NOT on their own accounts and not if you're actively logged in (playing a game) on your own Xbox as the other session on the same account will be automatically suspended. The way it works is that there's one main account on an Xbox (the account that is set as the home account) and all other accounts on that same Xbox share subscription and purchase benefits, ergo Gold or Game Pass or actual purchases.

 

On the One S, one of your kid's accounts would be the main one so that account will need its own subscription. 

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Oh Danny Boy

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10 hours ago, MikeBeaver said:

 

Nah, The Getaway was better than Legion, for me anyway, I played through both on the PS2, never bothered with the PSP game though.


The Getaway was a flying turd that looked like dogshit even on release.  One of those early PS2 games which pre console release was showing incredibly detailed and interactive environments (I remember reading about destructible scenery etc) which what eventually was released was a dull, flat textured and empty environment that barely reflected the early mock ups.

 

Legion despite its flaws has done a great job recreating a dystopian London that’s fun to just mess about in and explore. It’s light years ahead of the Getaway. 

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Legion's environment is extraordinary. You should just walk around slowly and soak in the absurd detail that's probably lost on most players as they whiz around on drones or fast travel. Perhaps the assets can be reused for a better game, one day.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

The One S can't be set as your home Xbox because you can only have one home Xbox. And that's already your mate's Xbox since you're game sharing with him.

 

On the One S your kids will be able to play online on YOUR account. But NOT on their own accounts and not if you're actively logged in (playing a game) on your own Xbox as the other session on the same account will be automatically suspended. The way it works is that there's one main account on an Xbox (the account that is set as the home account) and all other accounts on that same Xbox share subscription and purchase benefits, ergo Gold or Game Pass or actual purchases.

 

On the One S, one of your kid's accounts would be the main one so that account will need its own subscription. 


That’s kind of what I thought but thanks for that. I see on Twitter earlier that alpha ring testers are getting a build with FTP enabled so I guess I’ll maybe just buy a 3 month XBL code command should be fine till that lands. It would only be used for minecraft, fortnite and roblox and the main Xbox for everything else.

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5 hours ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

On the One S your kids will be able to play online on YOUR account. But NOT on their own accounts and not if you're actively logged in (playing a game) on your own Xbox as the other session on the same account will be automatically suspended. The way it works is that there's one main account on an Xbox (the account that is set as the home account) and all other accounts on that same Xbox share subscription and purchase benefits, ergo Gold or Game Pass or actual purchases.

I don’t think that is quite correct. If @fattakin’s account is set to auto login (or is manually login in) then the kids can play online with their accounts by just switching to their profile but not logging off fattakin’s. What can’t happen is for fattakin’s account to be actively logged in to the Series X at the same time.

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43 minutes ago, scottcr said:


ah. Ok, that’s not so bad.

 

Worth considering the initial pain of setting up a child microsoft account now as it makes some things easy - screen time, purchases, profile on the computer as he gets older.

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It's strange that all these AAA games business model seem predicated on it being something you play for 12 months now. They all seem to assume you're all just waiting there for whatever they add.

 

Do people really mostly play games like that? Watch Dog Legion is a story game that's been out for the best part of 6 months now.  I enjoyed it more than most here, despite the crashing but that's 4 story games ago now.

 

How many people are really sitting around waiting for half a multiplayer mode for something most of the player base completed a whole lockdown ago?

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14 minutes ago, Dudley said:

It's strange that all these AAA games business model seem predicated on it being something you play for 12 months now. They all seem to assume you're all just waiting there for whatever they add.

 

Do people really mostly play games like that? Watch Dog Legion is a story game that's been out for the best part of 6 months now.  I enjoyed it more than most here, despite the crashing but that's 4 story games ago now.

 

How many people are really sitting around waiting for half a multiplayer mode for something most of the player base completed a whole lockdown ago?

 

Yep. Every game seems to assume it's the only one you're playing, and is determined to keep things that way.

 

Assassin's Creed Valhalla is the same. It's a massive, story-based single-player game. It's getting a couple of story-based expansions too, which is fair enough.

 

But they're also drip-feeding all sorts of other rubbish into the game - Christmas festivals, Easter festivals, new mini-games, river raids - exactly as if, like you say, we are all sitting here just waiting for whatever new stuff they add. Whereas in reality half the player base will have burned through the story within weeks of release, and the other half aren't playing it at all because they are waiting for them to fix the thousands of bugs in the game (which they're not doing fast enough because they are adding all this Games as Service crap). No-one, and I mean no-one, thinks "oh, I must boot up that Assassin's Creed game I finished three months ago because they've added an egg hunt".

 

I get that they want to keep people engaged with the game, but honestly all this sort of thing does is put me off playing it - I'll come back to it in a year's time when they've actually added all this stuff and fixed the bugs and then I'll have a good experience. Then of course that translates into me waiting a year to actually buy the next game in the series rather than excitedly getting it full price at launch. I think it's self-defeating.

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If they did stuff like that, I wouldn't mind if it was really quite rare and perhaps not sign posted... imagine if Nintendo said 'and after this direct, if you go to Tarry Town, the festival has begun...' and you go there and things have changed and there's a wee mini quest with a couple of new shrines or something.

 

but they won't do that - because it won't them any more money and would take development away from BOTW2.

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59 minutes ago, Dudley said:

It's strange that all these AAA games business model seem predicated on it being something you play for 12 months now. They all seem to assume you're all just waiting there for whatever they add.

 

Do people really mostly play games like that? Watch Dog Legion is a story game that's been out for the best part of 6 months now.  I enjoyed it more than most here, despite the crashing but that's 4 story games ago now.

 

How many people are really sitting around waiting for half a multiplayer mode for something most of the player base completed a whole lockdown ago?

 

I think this might well be a "the forum is not the average person" thing.  And despite that, the number of people here who do play either Apex Legends or Destiny daily isn't zero. I think for a lot of people the annual update /season passes and then the next full release is something that works both for them and the publishers - if it didn't work it wouldn't be happening so often, would be my assumption.

 

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1 hour ago, Dudley said:

It's strange that all these AAA games business model seem predicated on it being something you play for 12 months now. They all seem to assume you're all just waiting there for whatever they add.

 

Do people really mostly play games like that? Watch Dog Legion is a story game that's been out for the best part of 6 months now.  I enjoyed it more than most here, despite the crashing but that's 4 story games ago now.

 

How many people are really sitting around waiting for half a multiplayer mode for something most of the player base completed a whole lockdown ago?

Why I'm generally not interested in AAA games any more. Prefer variety and this is why indie games are much more appealing for me these days.

 

I expect with the amount of investment needed to make AAA games these days this is the way it will continue to go. Also with the success of the "Fortnite" model too. My youngest son plays practically nothing else on his XBox seemingly. And this has been for a number of years.

 

Guess its also to do with the mindset these days where games with extended life are now becoming the norm rather than my old school way of thinking regarding AAA games.

 

I expect all upcoming MS games to be long term games with things added over time. Suppose its just progress really and the shape of gaming chaning.

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Just now, Don Wiskerando said:

Now that my son's PS5 is sorted I can get to work trying to find a series x for myself.

 

Are there any good discord channels for stock alerts?


Discord and Twitter were shit for me, I used the HotStock app in the end :)

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4 hours ago, Garwoofoo said:

No-one, and I mean no-one, thinks "oh, I must boot up that Assassin's Creed game I finished three months ago because they've added an egg hunt".

 

 

Exactly, and I'm not saying I don't like the game, it was great, I'd buy another in 2-3 years. I got my money's worth.

 

But now it'll be 5 years because they've spent 2 years making extra bollocks.

 

3 hours ago, Wahwah* said:

 

I think this might well be a "the forum is not the average person" thing.  And despite that, the number of people here who do play either Apex Legends or Destiny daily isn't zero. I think for a lot of people the annual update /season passes and then the next full release is something that works both for them and the publishers - if it didn't work it wouldn't be happening so often, would be my assumption.

 

 

Yeah, although that's expecting rationality from publishers.  Do they really do it with Watch Dogs Legion though or are they just trying to be one of the 3 in a generation that are Fortnite, Apex or Destiny.

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5 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

Exactly, and I'm not saying I don't like the game, it was great, I'd buy another in 2-3 years. I got my money's worth.

 

But now it'll be 5 years because they've spent 2 years making extra bollocks.

 

 

Yeah, although that's expecting rationality from publishers.  Do they really do it with Watch Dogs Legion though or are they just trying to be one of the 3 in a generation that are Fortnite, Apex or Destiny.

 

I would imagine it'd be foolish to set your breakeven point 11months after launch, etc. So I imagine Ubisoft's business model for Watchdogs (or whichever publisher/developer you might like to choose) factors the cost of this continued support into the budget that they expect to be covered significantly nearer launch. I also think that Ubisoft, with it's many studios and developers working across multiple titles simultaneously can cater for this sort of thing in a very different way to a smaller business. I can imagine it's almost like something that at this point is a bit of a gamble, but not one that dramatically effects profitability and also generates data that they can exploit to get closer to making their next games a more captivating prospect. 

 

On the other hand, the market research might say that players want this kind of support so they've got to do it because everyone else is. 

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Does anyone ever take advantage of those "free play days"?

 

I understand the purpose is to get you to try the game, get hooked and subsequently purchase when they get taken down a few days later. I usually ignore them for this reason.

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