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24 minutes ago, deerokus said:

Football manager is terrible. Mad, octodad esque controls and blurry ps1-level graphics in the match engine. Wtaf. 

 

I'm doing something I've never done on xbox before and getting a refund. 

2 questions

can you plug in a mouse, or not just click the stick and use it like a mouse?

what were you expecting the match engine to look like? its not a looker! hell, i have mine set to the old 2d dots!

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5 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

2 questions

can you plug in a mouse, or not just click the stick and use it like a mouse?

what were you expecting the match engine to look like? its not a looker! hell, i have mine set to the old 2d dots!

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No mouse support. You can click the stick but that moves so slowly (or too fast if you hold down a button to speed it up)

 

I was at least expecting the match engine to run at something approaching native resolution as it always has on pc. Not a lie, it seems to be 480p, even the character creator is aliased like I'm playing through a composite cable.

 

I had a previous version of this on switch and it wasn't this poor. 

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On 28/11/2020 at 18:42, Parksey said:

Not sure why there's a smoke for Horizon 5 to be set in Japan - I've only played FH4 admittedly but you'd have to play really loose with authenticity to have wide open spaces and a free "drive anywhere" experience. 70% of the country is dense forest or inhospitably steep terrain and the remaining 30% are quite narrow, packed urban spaces. 

 

It would basically be the opposite of FH4's map. I can understand the desire to race around a Tokyo-esque neon cityscape, but wouldn't that be a bit of an antithesis to Horizon's approach? 

 

I've only played 4 though, so maybe the others have mixed their map up a bit more. I guess they may also just sort of create a fictional Okinawa-style island where it's flatter and more open, and then just make it generically Japanese. 

 

I wonder if it would be something they'd consider in order to back up their recent push into the Japanese market though. 

 

As a complete aside, the tone of the game is quite jarring and annoying too. Aren't Playground doing Fable? Hope it doesn't bode ominously for them nailing it in a game which largely depends on tone...

 


I wouldn’t mind a different approach to Horizon so some more packed urban areas together with mountainous off road stuff they could take a bit of poetic licence with would be fine with me.

 

It peaked with 2 for me, despite the sequels being objectively better, because they felt quite samey.

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Yeah. If you go back to the first one it's open world but with closed roads, you can't go tearing through the country side. To be honest I'd prefer a return to that more skill based approach for at least one game. I went back to check out the auto-hdr and spent ages doing races because it was more fun than 4.

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36 minutes ago, SweatyTravolta said:

Yeah. If you go back to the first one it's open world but with closed roads, you can't go tearing through the country side. To be honest I'd prefer a return to that more skill based approach for at least one game. I went back to check out the auto-hdr and spent ages doing races because it was more fun than 4.

Horizon 1 is awesome, a really fun game, the festival / storyline was engaging and it was all new and exciting, 2 on the 360 still keeps you stuck to roads, I played a week or so of it and then decided on my next gen console, the X1 and a copy of FH2, it was liberating to race off road, everywhere I wanted, but it's all just a bit much really, I played a decent amount of 3 and only a few hours of 4, diminishing returns, a shift back to the style of the first one would be welcomed.

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If they keep the seasons from FH4 but set in Japan then they'll have plenty of scope to go mad with the cherry blossoms and snowy mountains. If anything it would be the most obvious setting they've chosen so far, nobody was lobbying for a racing game set in Colorado, Australia or Northumberland.

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10 minutes ago, SteveH said:

You need to use an HDMI adaptor that has an optical output, but so far I don't believe any are 2.1 compatible.

Right, I know what I'm looking for now. Thanks very much. I doubt 2.1 will be relevant for me, I don't have a new enough TV. Or even a Series X yet, but there's no harm in getting things straight early :P

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10 hours ago, deerokus said:

I like 4 but can only play in short bursts. They've obviously gone for a very open structure with this series but it just means nothing is very satisfying or rewarding, the original had the structure perfect for me. 


I think it peaked with the race that was available for the demo, the off-road one where you’re tearing through a vineyard, then jump onto a huge hill with hay bales scattered around and the Eric Prydz track blasting out. That’s not to say all the rest aren’t very good, they are, it’s just that felt new and epic and I replayed it about 50 times.

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10 hours ago, deerokus said:

I like 4 but can only play in short bursts. They've obviously gone for a very open structure with this series but it just means nothing is very satisfying or rewarding, the original had the structure perfect for me. 

 

I've been thinking a lot about this with so many game these days. The trip back to the original Horizon was eye opening as to how much easier the series had become, being able to plow though trees and not worry about racing lines. Stuck within the rigid confines of Colorado I was having to actually learn the roads properly and because of that I began to actually memorise the roads and when they'd feature in other races I could use that knowledge. A far cry from the hold accelerate to win of the modern games.

Another series that has done this is Assassin's Creed. Getting to an eagle tower used to be a game in itself. Looking for hand holds and slowly navigating your way up an impressively tall building with leaps of faith and heart stopping moments. Now it's hold A to scale impossible mountain.

Ultimately none of it is very satisfying and just seems like the same thing that happened to cinema, with everything becoming a brainless popcorn blockbuster.

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42 minutes ago, SweatyTravolta said:

 

I've been thinking a lot about this with so many game these days. The trip back to the original Horizon was eye opening as to how much easier the series had become, being able to plow though trees and not worry about racing lines. Stuck within the rigid confines of Colorado I was having to actually learn the roads properly and because of that I began to actually memorise the roads and when they'd feature in other races I could use that knowledge. A far cry from the hold accelerate to win of the modern games.

Another series that has done this is Assassin's Creed. Getting to an eagle tower used to be a game in itself. Looking for hand holds and slowly navigating your way up an impressively tall building with leaps of faith and heart stopping moments. Now it's hold A to scale impossible mountain.

Ultimately none of it is very satisfying and just seems like the same thing that happened to cinema, with everything becoming a brainless popcorn blockbuster.

This feels like a very narrow view of both games and cinema. 

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6 hours ago, moosegrinder said:

Right, I know what I'm looking for now. Thanks very much. I doubt 2.1 will be relevant for me, I don't have a new enough TV. Or even a Series X yet, but there's no harm in getting things straight early :P

 I have this adapter:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B084S83ML9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I can confirm that it (at least) works with 1080p at 120hz. It also introduces no frames of input lag based on my small amount of testing (using app that uses high frame function of phone to measure time from a button press).

 

So, it works great.

 

But there's a big issue for me. I wanted to have chat also outputted via the optical (i.e. via the xbox's HDMI) . You can set party chat to do this on the system level, but you can't for game chat. This means that if I don't have a mic plugged in, game chat goes through optical. But if I plug a mic into the controller, game chat is rooted to headset connected to the controller, even if there isn't one plugged in (only a mic). Oddly, it is a game by game setting that allows game chat to go through HDMI. Party chat is fine (can set to HDMI always, even with a mic plugged in), but game chat isn't.

 

The above is an issue for me because I wanted to use the DAC I used with my PS4 that accepted optical to drive my headphone (which are high impedance and don't play nicely with the xbox controller). So now I use a different pair of headphones via the 3.5mm connector on the controller, instead of using the optical.

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Quick resume has not worked for me at all the last 10 days and now the normal launch resume for one game isnt working either, does anyone else have this issue?

 

On X1X if i had shut the console down and played the last game i was playing before i shut down it would restart exactly from where i left off, now i dont even have this on the newer console

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I had a weird glitch yesterday and today since the update. I've created a group called "Now Playing" to distinguish the half dozen games I'm currently concentrating on from the dozens more on my external drive. I had that group pinned to the home screen, but the update removed it (the group still existed, it just wasn't pinned any more). I added it back, then today (I had a quick go at lunchtime :D ) my Now Playing group was the only thing pinned to the home screen and all the other stuff (Game Pass, Store, Events etc.) had disappeared. So I added those back too, and now I'm wondering what will or won't be on my screen next time I turn it on.

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22 minutes ago, Ry said:

Quick resume has not worked for me at all the last 10 days and now the normal launch resume for one game isnt working either, does anyone else have this issue?

 

On X1X if i had shut the console down and played the last game i was playing before i shut down it would restart exactly from where i left off, now i dont even have this on the newer console


Yeah, I’ve mentioned a couple of times here or in the other thread that this is the case for me too, stuff doesn’t stay in memory like it did on the Xbox One. Well, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t. I’m sure it’s a bug that’ll end up getting fixed soon enough. 

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15 minutes ago, hub2 said:

Is the console set to Instant On or Power Save mode?

 

I imagine resume would only be available in the former?

Instant on. 

 

Just have to accept that QR and normal resume are fucked for now. 

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2 hours ago, Chooch said:

This feels like a very narrow view of both games and cinema. 

 

Well, obviously I'm only talking about those franchises that have chosen to simplify the spectacle. I can't exactly include indie open world racing games as there aren't any to my knowledge, so the only game left doing that is Horizon and it has chosen the instant satisfaction route.

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24 minutes ago, Ry said:

Instant on. 

 

Just have to accept that QR and normal resume are fucked for now. 

 

Assassins Creed doesn't QR or normal resume for me at all.

 

Most other games seem to work ok but I have started going to home before powering off or switching game.

 

I have no idea if this is actually making a difference or if it's Spectrum/C64 level bullshit like "don't move while it's loading".

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4 hours ago, Alshie said:

 

Assassins Creed doesn't QR or normal resume for me at all.

 

Most other games seem to work ok but I have started going to home before powering off or switching game.

 

I have no idea if this is actually making a difference or if it's Spectrum/C64 level bullshit like "don't move while it's loading".

:) Think the velocity engine needs an oil change :D

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I've having a really weird issue with Series X. Granted, I've only had it a couple of days but everything seems to work fine. Except Need For Speed Hot Pursuit remastered. 

 

The game loads, I get to the screen to press start, press start and then it crashes back to the dashboard. Every time. 

 

 

 

Any ideas? I've tried deleting and reinstalling. I've tried knocking the video feed down to HD rather than 4K. Tried resetting the console, tried it without the console being connected to the Internet. It just seems a massively weird problem. 

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7 minutes ago, McCoy said:

I've having a really weird issue with Series X. Granted, I've only had it a couple of days but everything seems to work fine. Except Need For Speed Hot Pursuit remastered. 

 

The game loads, I get to the screen to press start, press start and then it crashes back to the dashboard. Every time. 

 

 

 

Any ideas? I've tried deleting and reinstalling. I've tried knocking the video feed down to HD rather than 4K. Tried resetting the console, tried it without the console being connected to the Internet. It just seems a massively weird problem. 


do you have it installed twice? Ie once internal and once external?

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