Xbox Series X | S

[gooner4life]

That SOC is huge, yields are not going to be high on that thing.

[Uncle Mike]

What %age yield do you have written on your pad of prophecy?

[HarryBizzle]

11 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

That SOC is huge, yields are not going to be high on that thing.

The article says they’ve built in redundancy to increase yields. I don’t know how much it helps but I thought it was interesting. 

[JoeK]

2 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

The article says they’ve built in redundancy to increase yields. I don’t know how much it helps but I thought it was interesting. 

 

Wonder if we'll have a few machines able to run better than others with some clever tinkering?

[Alex W.]

Well, that happened for the PS3, but you could only use the extra core if you jailbroke the console, and only home brew software could use it once you unlocked it.

[Alex W.]

34 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

That SOC is huge, yields are not going to be high on that thing.

I think the pic is magnified a bit.

[HarryBizzle]

17 minutes ago, JoeK said:

 

Wonder if we'll have a few machines able to run better than others with some clever tinkering?

 

It's very unlikely. In the desktop GPU game they either laser etch the extra CUs dead or lock in BIOS. I also think console code isn't designed to take account of extra cores in the same way a PC game would.

[Harsin]

Are we having a SOC measuring contest?

[Alex W.]

4 minutes ago, Harsin said:

Are we having a SOC measuring contest?

Well, I think with SOCs, it’s like golf. Smaller is better. Actually that makes it more like jockeys. SOCs are like the jockey of the games console and the frequency is, like, the horse.

[5R7]

14 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Well, I think with SOCs, it’s like golf. Smaller is better. Actually that makes it more like jockeys. SOCs are like the jockey of the games console and the frequency is, like, the horse.

 

 

you seem to have said, a smaller SOC, that runs faster is better....so by that logic, a 2070s with 2560 cores, and a frequency of 1905mhz will perform better than a 2080ti with 4352 cores and a frequency of only 1650mhz...it wont.

 

 

[footle]

23 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

 

 

you seem to have said, a smaller SOC, that runs faster is better....so by that logic, a 2070s with 2560 cores, and a frequency of 1905mhz will perform better than a 2080ti with 4352 cores and a frequency of only 1650mhz...it wont.

 

 

 

smaller, with the same amount of functionality, is better than larger with the same amount of functionality. Hence the magic of die shrinks.

[Harsin]

2 minutes ago, footle said:

 

smaller, with the same amount of functionality, is better than larger with the same amount of functionality. 

 

That's just what she tells you.

[Alex W.]

Yeah, you still want that jockey to be absolutely fucking ripped, and you don’t want too fast a horse because jockey and horse will overheat or use too much electricity. They’re both robots in this analogy. Just a small Arnie terminator jockey on a cyber-horse.

[layten]

2 hours ago, gooner4life said:

That SOC is huge, yields are not going to be high on that thing.

360.4mm square is not particularly large in terms of GPU sizes. Less than half a 2080ti, while the slower but made on the same process RX 5700 comes in at 251mm square.

[rafaqat]

2 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:

The article says they’ve built in redundancy to increase yields. I don’t know how much it helps but I thought it was interesting. 

 

Read the article?  Sir, I'd rather argue and make baseless assumptions instead!

[gooner4life]

What article? it was a picture of the SOC (magnified), I wasn't arguing either, I was just making a comment based on experience, given that the article said they'd built in redundancy measures to work around it, i wasnt wrong either. This is the worst thread and full of the worst people on rllmuk.

[TehStu]

Not true in the slightest, but people are determined to perpetuate Brand is better than Brand, even through Brand has no affect on their decision to buy Brand instead, nor will it affect their enjoyment of Brand. You buy Brand and I'll buy Brand and we'll each have fun, and both be better off for the fact that Brand competes with Brand, keeping both honest.

[rafaqat]

29 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

What article? it was a picture of the SOC (magnified), I wasn't arguing either, I was just making a comment based on experience, given that the article said they'd built in redundancy measures to work around it, i wasnt wrong either. This is the worst thread and full of the worst people on rllmuk.

 

Oh come on man. I was just having a joke. Sorry.  xx

I took my inspiration where people joke about reddit thread titles being read and not the linked article

[Boozy The Clown]

2 hours ago, gooner4life said:

This is the worst thread and full of the worst people on rllmuk.

 

 

Fuck off then ya fuckin' dick.

[Boozy The Clown]

 

[Isaac]

Those are interesting specs if true - there really isn't a huge performance difference between Series X and S, barring less RAM and no disc drive in the S.

 

It would make sense - you can't have a slower CPU in the S as it would make developing for two different CPUs trickier, but it means that if the Series S is extremely aggressively priced it will be amazing in terms of bang for buck.

[Boozy The Clown]

 

[JPL]

9 minutes ago, Boozy The Clown said:

 

Who are tweaktown and where have they got this info from?

[Boozy The Clown]

https://twitter.com/TweakTown

 

Took 2 clicks. Now answer your own question.

[Boozy The Clown]

 

[SeanR]

28,000 thousand followers, but;

 

"Not followed by anyone you’re following"

 

 

[iknowgungfu]

Has the new controller been shown?

[iknowgungfu]

Ignore...I've found Google.

[Boozy The Clown]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74558/xbox-series-xs-ssd-was-13-years-in-the-making/index.html

 

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74557/7nm-soc-production-cost-drives-up-xbox-series-console-price/index.html

 

[bear]

 

Well that's nice.