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I've had All Access since Christmas and when you factor in the expected cost of the Ultimate subscription (if you've used the £1 to convert trick), i think its good value. I initially did it for the Series X upgrade after a year (which was the deal last Christmas). Its only Game and Smyths who did it at the moment, but i would be surprised if that changes in the future.

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Anyone else worried that Facebook Gaming will be integrated in the dash now? Imaging clicking the new share button to open Facebook Gaming.

 

I think I'm actually out now.

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if you're required to have a FB account in any way I'll be giving it a hard pass. That's the same reason I wont buy an Oculus.

 

I mean, FaceBook?? Anyone under 30 thinks its for old farts (I'm 49 by the way so no hate, please)

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Facebook is something that is either required for work or the go-to platform for conservative grandparents to get their daily dose of right-wing conspiracy theories. Under 30 is putting it mildly, imo anyone under 45 /50 avoids it like the plague.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

Facebook is something that is either required for work or the go-to platform for conservative grandparents to get their daily dose of right-wing conspiracy theories. Under 30 is putting it mildly, imo anyone under 45 /50 avoids it like the plague.

 

Facebook still have them though as they are all using Instagram and WhatsApp

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I think it's crazy thst they're partnering with Facebook. I don't really know what it means for me, my data or my experience of the console, they need to announce that stuff ASAP before it becomes the new TV,TV,TV.  Sony must be grateful for this news at the moment.  

 

Speaking of whom, do they have their own streaming service? Why do Microsoft need one? Can't they just leave it to twitch and not create a pr clusterfuck?

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To be fair they haven't said they are partnering with FB. They have said they are migrating their current streamers to FB Gaming. The rest is all conjecture and speculation

 

EDIT: Actually I'm completely wrong about the above, they are talking about partnering with FB Gaming especially with relation to XCloud.

 

I stil don't believe that MS are going to force you to log into FB to use their services, why would they give up all their data, everything in their entire eco system is tied to your live account. They might tie in FB gaming to the platform to allow you to stream, but only in the way you can currently stream via twitch if you so desire.

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I imagine Xbox will support streaming to Twitch, YouTube and Facebook, they're just forming a 'special relationship' with the latter because they're the only real choice for the click-to-play xCloud stuff: Amazon and Google run their own cloud platforms and are hoping to break into game streaming, so they're Microsoft's direct competitors in two different ways.

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Maybe if this keeps spinning out of control and the narrative becomes that the XsX is the Facebook console, Microsoft could clarify. Instead of waiting until the end of July, or whenever their big event is. They don't even have to reveal anything substantial, just confirm that XsX won't require a Facebook account and won't be tied to Facebook in another way. 

 

To be honest, I would be very surprised if they did this after all the goodwill moves they've made. Surely they know how Facebook sits with their target audience, they're not stupid. They want to lure people into Game Pass, not drive them away by requiring another subscription to a controversial platform.

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Alternatively, MS think that partnering with Facebook helps them tap into the broader gaming market of however many billion players Phil Spencer's previously referred to. If it gets them the subscriber numbers MS want, maybe they're happy to accept the loss of some of their current user base for a net increase in users and revenue.

 

I'd be surprised if there was a mandatory signup for Facebook gaming (yikes if there was however). I don't know if the current terms of service enable MS to share user data with their partners unless you're playing one of their games or linking accounts (like EA or Epic accounts).

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3 hours ago, BubbleFish said:

if you're required to have a FB account in any way I'll be giving it a hard pass. That's the same reason I wont buy an Oculus.

 

You don't need a Facebook account for Oculus stuff. It's an option, but you can just set up a regular Oculus account instead.

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16 hours ago, Purin said:

Anyone else worried that Facebook Gaming will be integrated in the dash now? Imaging clicking the new share button to open Facebook Gaming.

 

I think I'm actually out now.

 

No. 

 

I think this could be a good thing for Xcloud. Think of the billions of people on Facebook. Any of them want to play a game on their Phone / PC  / Tablet. Chances are now they're gonna be able to easily play Xbox titles anywhere streaming through Xcloud.

 

 

Also I saw a post somewhere today, but it's confirmed that it's not being integrated into the dash. If you want to stream you can still do it with Twitch. 

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9 minutes ago, Mogster said:

 

You don't need a Facebook account for Oculus stuff. It's an option, but you can just set up a regular Oculus account instead.

 

If you want to do any social stuff (friends list, party invites, chat etc) on the Quest now you do need to have a facebook account 

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Just now, metallicfrodo said:

 

If you want to do any social stuff (friends list, party invites, chat etc) on the Quest now you do need to have a facebook account 

 

Ah, I didn't realise that. You're right, although I seem to still have an Oculus friends list with a single occupant, which must have been from the CV1 days.

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I'm not surprised at all they dropped mixer. I'm not into streaming or watching so makes no odds to me.  I think people are getting bit too worked up over facebook integration, the original article is only talking about xcloud and it seems like an ok move for both parties, gives facebook gaming a massive content boost and a platform for MS to open up to with xcloud and gamepass. 

 

I cant see it making a difference on the Fat console experience, they are making all the right noises about that as we've all mostly agreed?

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On 23/06/2020 at 12:27, therearerules said:

I'm clueless about the next gen consoles- what's all this about old MS consoles being forwards compaitble (have I got that right?)

 

There's a couple of things. Games you buy for current Xbox's with 'smart delivery' will automatically download the upgraded XSX version when you are playing on that.  MS and lots of Devs will support that. EA have some borked time limited upgrade offer instead.  Because of course they do.

 

For back compatibility, Xbox tends to add higher resolution and faster frame rates. That'll continue with XSX.  They're also adding HDR support to titles that didn't support it originally, using some clever machine learning thingybob.

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