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This kind of thing has happened before, starcraft springs to mind!

 

its Devs not putting framerate limits in menus!

 

The cards will shut down it you try to push them too far, hence why its nearly impossible to brick a card with normal OC'ing. But this is just so much so fast, it causes damage

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I assume a lot of 3090 owners probably use it for other stuff besides MMOs (production work or summat). Which is even worse if it then fails I guess.

 

Anyway, I'd heard about the old starcraft bug before but since this appears to mainly (only?) be affecting evga cards I wonder if it may be a design issue too?

Don't some cards have a little fuse/LED that goes in exactly these circumstances to avoid damage to the card itself? Might be what the 'pop' noise is.

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48 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

This kind of thing has happened before, starcraft springs to mind!

 

its Devs not putting framerate limits in menus!

 

The cards will shut down it you try to push them too far, hence why its nearly impossible to brick a card with normal OC'ing. But this is just so much so fast, it causes damage

 

Nah, for me, the onus is on the card to protect itself from this. And you'll excuse me but 'so much fast' doesn't really sound like a thing.

 

This all reminds me of a time when I was young and I asked my dad what would happen if he revved the car into the redzone, which he did to show me, then the car wouldn't start again and we had to walk home. Asked and answered!

 

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They do, they shut down, as it did he first time (specifically relating to the person who shared the story)...he then did it again, only this time as the card was still saturated with heat from the previous time, it went before it could stop.

 

The issue is the game going weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee because the devs haven't put a frame rate cap in place, which they should, (in fact, ALL games should have fucking frame rate caps!) and then if you try to load the game again, while its still, say, "smoking hot" from the previous time, it may not be able to shut down quick enough, which appears to have been what happened.

 

It would be like the breaker in your electrics tripping, and you turn it back on, and it trips again, and you turn it back on, only this time the thing that was tripping goes on fire, as you keep sending current to it.

 

 

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Not for a real good while yet, imo.  Maybe 18 months from now things will be what could be considered on the high side of reasonable.

 

It'll get better than it is now if there is another dip in crypto mining (though that has seen a rise in recent weeks again, since a dip a month or so ago becauae of Chinese regulations), but not to the extent that things become widely available for MSRP.

 

Other raw materials besides the silicon to make them, the metals and plastics, have seen substantial rises in their cost due to shortages caused by the long term knock on effects of Covid work shortages.

 

If/when Nvidea pump out the 4000 series cards next year, that will only cause another mad rush to get whatever actually gets released, then that will also cause the 2nd hand market for 2000/3000 series cards to stay high.

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Over the last week I’ve been getting constant pings from one of the stock apps saying Amazon has the 3060ti in stock, but the prices have been around £720-£780 which is just silly.

 

I really want to pick up an old 1060/1070 for my arcade cabinet, but there’s no way I’m paying 3070 RRP prices for one. 

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Stock of RTX 3070 Ti seem to pop up from time to time on Amazon for £900, which is ridiculous. But it is more ridiculous than my need for one?

 

The issue now is my PC has a 550W PSU and an i7 6700k so do I just replace CPU, RAM and motherboard as well? Probably.

 

My biggest regret is passing up 20xx cards a few times when they probably would've suited my purpose and build something entirely new in another few years.

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1 hour ago, Colonel Panic said:

Stock of RTX 3070 Ti seem to pop up from time to time on Amazon for £900, which is ridiculous. But it is more ridiculous than my need for one?

 

The issue now is my PC has a 550W PSU and an i7 6700k so do I just replace CPU, RAM and motherboard as well? Probably.

 

My biggest regret is passing up 20xx cards a few times when they probably would've suited my purpose and build something entirely new in another few years.

3070ti FE was in stock today on scan for a good few mins for £529. Cards are coming through 

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My Scan order is due in a couple of weeks, and I must admit I am now wondering if I can make a last minute amendment to step up the 3060 to something with a bit more oomph. I knew something like this might happen when I put the order through, but I suppose if I'd have waited til now I wouldnt be getting it for another couple of months, so....  *shrug*

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  • 3 weeks later...
  • 2 weeks later...

I'm getting genuinely tempted to sell off my 3090. I was 'lucky' enough to buy one at rrp, but with my 144hz 1440p monitor (and no desire to upgrade to 4k anytime soon), it feels like utter overkill, and quite honestly I'd be very happy with the extra cash in my pocket.

 

Obviously, this is made more complicated by the overall lack of graphics cards around - suspect I'd attempt to find a 3070 / 3070ti , but if I could find one I guess even at the stupidly inflated prices, I'd probably still walk away with money in the bank.

 

I dunno. 

 

What does the hive-mind say on the subject?


Also, if anyone wants to buy it, let me know. I'd be generous in my discounts...

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4 minutes ago, Super Craig said:

My gut says to keep it unless you’re desperate for the cash.

 

I certainly don't need the cash, but it's always nice to have the money in the bank just in case...

 

...just in case I buy an iPad Pro...and a new iPhone.

 

Oh, wait...I did that already.

 

Hmm, maybe I do need the cash :P

 

Anyway, I thought I'd use this as a bit of an experiment and see what happens...I put it up just a second ago ;) . 

 

Already got an offer of £300 more than I paid for the thing. But quite frankly, I'll let it run for the seven days and see what happens! 

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3080ti's were in stock on scan earlier in the week and stuck around for a good 15-20 mins or so 

 

They aren't going for much more on ebay either - sales seem to be settling around £1300 for a GPU that costs around £1060 delivered - there is currently a lull with the higher end cards. It doesn't help that and the 3090 that the 3080 exists and once was available for £649 at basically the same performance. 

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