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I really wanted to get into CK2 but somewhere along the line the endless patches and DLC packs broke the game‘s tutorial, and from that point on there was no chance. I’ll be jumping on this day one. 

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It feels like I should play CK2 for hundreds more hours than the hundreds of hours I've already played it for and get my money's worth before dipping into a new one. It does look incredible though. 

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I'm building a PC for this, Cyberpunk and MSFS 2020. Just waiting for the 3080 and the Zen 3s to drop.

 

Have watched all the CK3 dev diaries and playthroughs. Cannot wait.

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1 hour ago, Triple A said:

Wow this is on Game Pass?  Incredible deal - I hope the studio got paid enough

 

I'm sure they did, and will continue to be when people buy all 500 expansions. ;)

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This is excellent. They've put a ton of work into making this more user friendly. If you're someone who always liked the idea of Crusader Kings but found it too fiddly then I'd highly recommend giving this a look.

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I haven't followed the dev diaries for this and only put about 50 hours into CK2 (I know, right? I'm more of an EU/HoI fan myself). What in a nutshell differentiates this from CK2 (other than looking much prettier)?

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17 minutes ago, Gabe said:

I haven't followed the dev diaries for this and only put about 50 hours into CK2 (I know, right? I'm more of an EU/HoI fan myself). What in a nutshell differentiates this from CK2 (other than looking much prettier)?

 

There's a good bit. Really briefly

 

- Huge improvements to the UI. It's hard to overstate how much of a difference this makes until you're playing it but everything is a lot more obvious and easier to follow.

- Added mechanics to help with roleplay. Your character can now level up essentially and specialise into skill trees which give them boosts. There's a dread stat which increases the more tyrannical you are which if high enough will intimidate or even terrify other characters letting you control them more easily. There's a Stress mechanic which will add stress on to your character if you pick options that go against their traits. For example if you're a coward you'll gain stress for choosing brave options like standing up to your liege lord for example.

- Massively fleshed out the Faith system. Each faith has doctrines associated to it like for example Christianity is based on holy wars, confession & I think male privilege. You can start your own religion and put in your own doctrines.

- Better models which reflect the state of the character. Like I have a blind chancellor and his model has a bandage wrapped around his eyes.

- Slightly more in depth combat

 

There's a ton more but tldr: The two things I thought CK2 was bad at was a) Explaining to you why things are happening in the world and b) Easily understanding all of the various mechanics and terms and they've put a massive tick beside those two while adding on elements to make it very much its own game.

 

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4 minutes ago, Zael said:

 

There's a good bit. Really briefly

 

- Huge improvements to the UI. It's hard to overstate how much of a difference this makes until you're playing it but everything is a lot more obvious and easier to follow.

- Added mechanics to help with roleplay. Your character can now level up essentially and specialise into skill trees which give them boosts. There's a dread stat which increases the more tyrannical you are which if high enough will intimidate or even terrify other characters letting you control them more easily. There's a Stress mechanic which will add stress on to your character if you pick options that go against their traits. For example if you're a coward you'll gain stress for choosing brave options like standing up to your liege lord for example.

- Massively fleshed out the Faith system. Each faith has doctrines associated to it like for example Christianity is based on holy wars, confession & I think male privilege. You can start your own religion and put in your own doctrines.

- Better models which reflect the state of the character. Like I have a blind chancellor and his model has a bandage wrapped around his eyes.

- Slightly more in depth combat

 

There's a ton more but tldr: The two things I thought CK2 was bad at was a) Explaining to you why things are happening in the world and b) Easily understanding all of the various mechanics and terms and they've put a massive tick beside those two while adding on elements to make it very much its own game.

 

 

Ooh, what have they done with that?

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1 minute ago, Gabe said:

 

Ooh, what have they done with that?

 

Not a huge pile. Men at Arms take the place of retinues and they're slightly more customisable and now include siege weaponry. They've added Knights which are actual characters in the game and can be added into armies. Fights are a lot more deadly, you can expect usually one or more named characters (usually knights) to get badly hurt or die in fights. They've added the Advantage mechanic to battles which is a number that is taken from a ton of different things (martial skill of a commander, terrain fighting in, type of troops, are you attacking or defending, a random dice roll) and compares it to your opponents number. Then the remainder is taken and a damage boost is given to the army with the bigger Advantage. It then continues throughout the fight so over the course of it the two armies will roll again which makes traits more interesting. So say you have the Cautious attacker trait, the modifier you give to your Advantage at the start of a fight is really low but as Advantage rolls throughout the fight your modifier will be a lot higher. Supply also works a bit differently making it more difficult to go deep into enemy lines.

 

They're not massive changes but it is a little bit more nuanced than CK2.

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Second night of playing this, carrying on from where the tutorial leaves off, and I just accidentally installed my layabout half-brother as the King of Jerusalem (and lost control of my original character just as he was about to crown himself King of Ireland). :lol:

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Heh.

I had awful time trying to get this to work unfortunately. Had this windows store issue that seems quite a common occurrence - if the amount of complaints online are anything to go by. Basically Windows store fucks itself and then no windows store apps, including the Xbox app, work properly. 

Ended up reinstalling Windows!

 

Anyway, I started properly tonight, loving the stress level guage :) I started as petty king of Cornwall with a ruler who was totally insane. Shy and paranoid he kept losing it until I chose for him to turn to the bottle and he was dead before he was fifty. His son was only ten, but was already looking better, with some decent traits. I paid close attention to them and married him to a common born woman whose traits complimented his. This has worked superbly, my king and his wife are massively in love and have been at it like bunnies with six children and they're only thirty!

 

Meanwhile I betrothed his little sister to a nephew of the king of Wessex - this turned out better than I could have imagined when the little bugger only went and inherited the whole Kingdom. Giving my young king a massively powerful ally right next door.

 

I tried out the befriending scheme which was quite amusing as the two clashed characters, but I got them chummy enough and when I left off this evening we were working together to rid the British isles of the viking invaders :)

 

Me with my 1000 man strong army and him with his 5000 one. Winning one of the little wars has just given me a toehold in Ireland though, I think the petty Kingdom of Cornwall might be able to expand over there, especially if I keep inter marrying and keeping sweet with Wessex.

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It’s these completely unique stories that emerge from the game that have me so excited to play it. And the fact you can do this from pretty much anywhere in the medieval world is amazing to me.

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You can always just let the game come to you and respond - plenty of tips and messages will be coming through. Also, if you can afford it, it's worth building a professional army by adding Men-At-Arms. 

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2 hours ago, Garwoofoo said:

I played through the tutorial and was quite enjoying it.

 

Then the tutorial ended and I realised I had *no idea* what to do.

 

That's how I typically feel about games such as this or management Sims. Tutorials so long and complicated by the time you get to the end you've forgotten how to do anything and then you're just left to it! 

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I think the tutorial does a great job setting everything up and gives you a good idea of what the different buttons are. But there's two more hurdles. Firstly there are a lot of things the tutorials can't cover like the maze that is claims & inheritance and you just need to play the game to get your head around it. 

 

The second one is I expect the bigger hurdle which is that it's a grand strategy game so you have no clear goals and in fact is one of the stranger grand strategy games where it's not really about painting the map your colour. It's a story generator and you play the game to create stories. That open endedness can put a lot of people off. 

 

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