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1 hour ago, Gotters said:

 

The way Barca are structured you can't sack the elected board, but could call a vote of no confidence if enough members vote for it, but they didn't as the club rules meant the elections for a new board would run later than this lot finishing their term anyway.

 

Not sure of the angle in resigning now like this other than the club is about to implode both financially and on the pitch and he simply can't be arsed with it anymore.

It says in the article that the vote of no confidence was scheduled to take place in November with the 1st and 2nd of the month as the likely dates. 

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I think that the resignation is a way of avoiding responsibility for the club debts.  I can't remember the exact detail, but the club is structured in such a way that the board become personally liable for losses in certain circumstances, hence the massive cost-cutting and weird exchange transfers.  I remember reading something about selling Messi being incredibly attractive as it means it covers the losses, but letting him go for free would cause such a storm that Bartomeu would be forced to exit in a way that makes him culpable for the money.

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4 hours ago, Gotters said:

 

thanks, I stand by my previous post.

 

all diving drives me mad, but when its a huge club doing it against relative minnows its somehow even worse, pathetic behaviour on his part and then we have the madness of VAR backing up the call.

I normally wouldn't bother responding, but this is ridiculous. Salah was running full tilt, and the other bloke stood on his heel, then steps across Salah and trips him. It was soft, I'm pretty sure it was accidental, and we can argue about whether it warranted a penalty, but it definitely wasn't a dive.

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Good background piece from the Athletic on the behind the scenes chaos at Barca

 

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In an extraordinary turn of events on Tuesday night, Josep Maria Bartomeu resigned as president of Barcelona in a move that is likely to increase the chance of Lionel Messi remaining at the club.

Bartomeu, who became president in 2014, was under intense pressure to leave the club and has now walked away along with his entire board of directors.

Why has he resigned? 

Bartomeu and his entire board stepped down to avoid having to face a referendum of all club members which could have forced them from their posts.

Problems for the club and its directors have been mounting in recent years — going all the way back to when Bartomeu became president in January 2014, after predecessor and close associate Sandro Rosell shocked everyone by resigning in the wake of an investigation into the arrival of Neymar at the club the previous summer.

Barcelona later agreed to pay a fine of £4.4 million to the Spanish authorities to settle a tax fraud case over Neymar’s transfer. After the Brazilian departed for Paris Saint-Germain, big-money arrivals Ousmane Dembele, Philippe Coutinho and Antoine Griezmann have not worked out. The role of club legends including Johan Cruyff and Pep Guardiola in past successes has been minimised, including by a social media consultancy paid for by Barca’s board themselves (this is now the subject of an ongoing police investigation).

The team has won three of the last five La Liga titles, but their true level was shown by a run of increasingly embarrassing Champions League exits. Meanwhile, the COVID-19 crisis laid bare huge issues in the club’s accounts.

August’s 8-2 humiliation by Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarter-finals was followed by a group of concerned fans and potential next presidents of the club launching a “motion of censure” to gather enough signatures to force a referendum of all blaugrana socios on whether the board must resign or not. They easily cleared the 16,520 threshold by more than 4,000 signatures. However, the board continued to stall and find excuses to avoid holding the full referendum.

As recently as Monday evening Bartomeu and his remaining directors were firmly holding onto their positions, while claiming the worsening situation with COVID-19 made organising the referendum too challenging. However the Catalan authorities refused to give backing for the vote to be postponed, and on Tuesday night Bartomeu announced in a bombshell 45-minute speech that he and the entire board were stepping down with immediate effect.

How has his public feud with Lionel Messi and the players influenced this?

The transfer saga involving Messi this summer was definitely a factor in the motion of censure receiving enough signatures to force the vote of all club members.

Gerard Pique’s critical interview in the Catalan press last weekend was yet another sign the players had little remaining respect for the directors. That led to a source close to one senior squad member telling The Athletic that it seems “very clear that trust has been totally, totally lost between the boardroom and dressing room”.

However, those organising the motion of censure believe that it was more the accumulation of missteps and scandals going back throughout the presidencies of Rosell and Bartomeu that led socios to want them out — even knowing that new elections would have taken place in March 2021 anyway.

“The main reason was that people are just very tired,” Mes Que Una Mocio spokesperson Marc Duch told The Athletic in early October. “We have now spent many years angry with the club, the socios are being disappointed all the time. When it is not a spying scandal, it is a lack of money, or a strange signing. Everything is working badly. And the fans are just fed up.”

Who will run Barcelona now he has gone?

According to Article 35.4 of Barcelona’s club statues an “interim management commission” takes over when the previous board resigns.

Carlos Tusquets, currently president of Barca’s finance commission, will lead this “caretaker” body which must have at least seven members, drawn from the club’s finance and discipline commission. Tusquets was a member of Barca’s board under the reign of previous president Josep Lluis Nunez. He is president of Spanish private bank Banco Mediolanum, whose past clients include controversial former Italian president Silvio Berlusconi.

The primary job of this interim commission is to call and organise the vote to elect a new president and board of directors. Given the three-month period mandated in the club’s statutes, the elections must take place before the end of January 2021.

The steps to be taken include the public setting of the election date, confirming the “census” of socios eligible to vote, choosing a separate “election committee” to oversee the vote, presentation of candidates, and finally the scrutiny and counting of votes before the declaration of the new president.

Some of the candidates want the club to ask for special permission from the local government to amend the club’s statutes to allow e-voting, as a result of the ongoing pandemic.

Who are the main candidates?

While, in theory, any Barca socio can run for president, all candidates must present 5,506 signatures of other club members backing them. They must also present bank guarantees of 15 per cent of the club’s annual budget — a figure of around €120 million. This can be done either personally, or jointly with those who would form part of his or her incoming board.

Five “pre-candidates” have already said they will run to replace Bartomeu: Victor Font, Toni Freixa, Agusti Benedito, Jordi Farre and Lluis Fernandez.

Font has long been seen as a front runner and has talked up his closeness to former Barca playmaker Xavi Hernandez (although without any formal relationship in place).

Freixa is a former ally of Bartomeu and Rosell who has twice before resigned from roles at the club.

Benedito is a long-time critic of recent Barca boards. Farre has less institutional support, but his profile has grown hugely as he was the primary instigator of the motion of censure which finally brought down Bartomeu. Fernandez is a local businessman who wants to be a “unity candidate” and bring together the different divisions within the fanbase.

Others who may throw their hats into the ring include former president Joan Laporta, who held the role from 2003 to 2010. The most likely “continuity candidate” would be Xavier Vilajoana who, until Tuesday night, was a director in charge of Barca B and the club’s women’s teams. Former Girona president and Federacion Catalana de Futbol chief Jordi Roche is rumoured to have the backing of Rosell, who remains an influential figure in everything that goes on around the club.

Font is arguably favourite to land the role. A source close to senior dressing room figures informed The Athletic just last week that “I’d put all my money on him”. However Laporta remains a very popular figure among many Barca fans due to his association with the golden era when Pep Guardiola was coach. However the results of Barca presidential elections are notoriously difficult to predict in advance.

It is traditional for candidates to announce a “project” or “ticket”, ready to come in and hit the ground running from day one. However the current climate means none of the current candidates are in a position to promise the club can spend big money on new star signings, while vowing to change coach mid-season would be a risky campaign promise.

What does this mean for Barcelona’s finances and January spending?

In his exit speech on Tuesday, Bartomeu said that among the pressing matters the caretaker body must deal with will be negotiations with all the club’s staff over pay cuts. “We hope that in the coming days a salary adjustment can be agreed with the squad and employees, or if not there could be serious consequences for the club,” he warned.

This again laid bare the serious financial problems at Barca, which were mounting even before the COVID-19 pandemic cut off much of its revenues.

Head coach Koeman has openly called for reinforcements at centre-forward (preferably Memphis Depay from Lyon) and centre-back (possibly Eric Garcia from Manchester City) but, with money so tight, significant transfer business was unlikely even had Bartomeu and his board remained in charge. In the summer transfer window, Barcelona agreed to sign just one player — 19-year-old Ajax right-back Sergino Dest. Indeed, the main news out of the club on deadline day was the announcement of losses of almost €100 million in their annual accounts.

A source close to one of the likely contenders to win the presidency told The Athletic that under no circumstances should the interim board conduct transfer policy.

“Tusquets just has to pay the light, water and gas and call the elections,” the source said. “They have to cut money from the budget, that is clear. But the most important thing is to have elections as soon as possible.”

What other implications will this have for Barcelona on and off the field?

Senior players like Messi and Pique have been heavily critical of Bartomeu and will be relieved to see the back of him and his directors. After a disappointing start to the season, they now have no excuses for continued below-par performances on the pitch.

The first signs under new boss Koeman were quite positive but last week’s Clasico defeat by Real Madrid showed how the squad is still lacking in top quality and depth.

Koeman is unlikely to be enjoying all the extra commotion around the team, but the former Barca player and assistant manager knew what he was getting into when he accepted the job offer from Bartomeu last summer. Koeman has claimed that if the team has a successful season then whoever is the new president is unlikely to remove him.

Xavi has long been seen as a future Barca coach in waiting. Font and Laporta are among the candidates to say they see Xavi as a future Barca coach in waiting.

However, a source familiar with the 40-year-old said he had given a firm commitment to his employers in Qatar to stay there until the Gulf nation hosts the 2022 World Cup late that year.

“Xavi’s return might not be so quick,” the source said. “Also for self-preservation reasons. Maybe give Koeman another year, and then that would be a smart time to come in.”

What now for Messi?

A new board will surely have as their first order of business sorting out Messi’s future — given his current contract with Barca ends next June. If the elections are won by anybody closely associated with Rosell or Bartomeu, then it is difficult to see the Argentine agreeing to stay. Meanwhile, the club’s still delicate finances will make it tricky to keep paying his current huge salary past his 34th birthday next summer.

However Messi has repeatedly said his ideal situation is staying at Barca to win more trophies before he hangs up his boots. So his father and agent Jorge and the new president will have plenty to discuss when they do meet.

Whether or not Messi is there next season, further deep restructuring is required in the squad and the team. “A generational change is needed,” said one experienced source close to a number of Barca players, and the futures of Pique, Jordi Alba and Sergio Busquets will have to be handled very carefully.

Other players will also be wondering about their long-term futures at the Nou Camp. The questionable purchases of Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann are all closely associated with Bartomeu, so the new regime might look on them as players who could be sold to raise the funds badly needed to properly rebuild the squad.

Did Bartomeu really say he had entered Barcelona into a future European Super League?

Bartomeu shocked everyone on Tuesday night by announcing he had “accepted a proposition to form part of a new European Super League” and also agreed with FIFA the format for a new Club World Cup.

However a club source told The Athletic these agreements were still at an “initial” stage and there was “nothing concrete signed or agreed”. Any formal agreement would also need to be ratified by the new board and then voted through an AGM of socios. “It would be part of the president’s legacy, but it is still a long way away,” the source said.

Is this the end of Bartomeu’s association with Barcelona?

Under Barca’s statutes, outgoing directors can be held responsible for losses racked up during their terms of office, via the bank guarantee they signed up to when they originally took office.

In 2014 Bartomeu and Rosell both gave evidence in court in a bid to reclaim alleged losses of €47.6 million over Laporta’s seven years in charge, maintaining that each director from that time be made to make good on their “guarantee” to the tune of €2.86 million per head. That case ran on until 2017 when Barca eventually gave up appealing it through different levels of the Spanish court system.

Some critics have wondered whether the current board remained in office so long, despite all the pressures against them, as they were concerned about being held to account in this way themselves. Bartomeu denied this outright on Tuesday, saying that “all the insinuations about these guarantees are false, and motivated by political and electoral interests”.

A source close to one of those who could become president told The Athleticthe first thing a new board would do was carry out an independent forensic investigation of the club’s accounts. The source said pursuing former directors over their guarantee was unlikely even if losses were confirmed, but any evidence of criminal wrongdoing such as misuse of funds or fraud would be passed to the authorities.

There is also a police investigation still ongoing into the social media scandal (see above), with documents taken from the Nou Camp back in July.

“The principal problem is that we do not know the exact seriousness of the club’s situation, as everything has been done out of sight,” a source close to a potential new president says. “It will be impossible to make any decisions until the new president comes in and sees the reality of the situation.”

 

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Was thinking - there is always a lot of drama around the superclubs.  Almost as if when you are winning almost everything almost every year, you have to invent something to keep yourself occupied.  I wonder how that would work if they started regularly finishing 6th in an European Super League.

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1 hour ago, Gotters said:

Good background piece from the Athletic on the behind the scenes chaos at Barca

 

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In an extraordinary turn of events on Tuesday night, Josep Maria Bartomeu resigned as president of Barcelona in a move that is likely to increase the chance of Lionel Messi remaining at the club.

Bartomeu, who became president in 2014, was under intense pressure to leave the club and has now walked away along with his entire board of directors.

Why has he resigned? 

Bartomeu and his entire board stepped down to avoid having to face a referendum of all club members which could have forced them from their posts.

Problems for the club and its directors have been mounting in recent years — going all the way back to when Bartomeu became president in January 2014, after predecessor and close associate Sandro Rosell shocked everyone by resigning in the wake of an investigation into the arrival of Neymar at the club the previous summer.

Barcelona later agreed to pay a fine of £4.4 million to the Spanish authorities to settle a tax fraud case over Neymar’s transfer. After the Brazilian departed for Paris Saint-Germain, big-money arrivals Ousmane Dembele, Philippe Coutinho and Antoine Griezmann have not worked out. The role of club legends including Johan Cruyff and Pep Guardiola in past successes has been minimised, including by a social media consultancy paid for by Barca’s board themselves (this is now the subject of an ongoing police investigation).

The team has won three of the last five La Liga titles, but their true level was shown by a run of increasingly embarrassing Champions League exits. Meanwhile, the COVID-19 crisis laid bare huge issues in the club’s accounts.

August’s 8-2 humiliation by Bayern Munich in the Champions League quarter-finals was followed by a group of concerned fans and potential next presidents of the club launching a “motion of censure” to gather enough signatures to force a referendum of all blaugrana socios on whether the board must resign or not. They easily cleared the 16,520 threshold by more than 4,000 signatures. However, the board continued to stall and find excuses to avoid holding the full referendum.

As recently as Monday evening Bartomeu and his remaining directors were firmly holding onto their positions, while claiming the worsening situation with COVID-19 made organising the referendum too challenging. However the Catalan authorities refused to give backing for the vote to be postponed, and on Tuesday night Bartomeu announced in a bombshell 45-minute speech that he and the entire board were stepping down with immediate effect.

How has his public feud with Lionel Messi and the players influenced this?

The transfer saga involving Messi this summer was definitely a factor in the motion of censure receiving enough signatures to force the vote of all club members.

Gerard Pique’s critical interview in the Catalan press last weekend was yet another sign the players had little remaining respect for the directors. That led to a source close to one senior squad member telling The Athletic that it seems “very clear that trust has been totally, totally lost between the boardroom and dressing room”.

However, those organising the motion of censure believe that it was more the accumulation of missteps and scandals going back throughout the presidencies of Rosell and Bartomeu that led socios to want them out — even knowing that new elections would have taken place in March 2021 anyway.

“The main reason was that people are just very tired,” Mes Que Una Mocio spokesperson Marc Duch told The Athletic in early October. “We have now spent many years angry with the club, the socios are being disappointed all the time. When it is not a spying scandal, it is a lack of money, or a strange signing. Everything is working badly. And the fans are just fed up.”

Who will run Barcelona now he has gone?

According to Article 35.4 of Barcelona’s club statues an “interim management commission” takes over when the previous board resigns.

Carlos Tusquets, currently president of Barca’s finance commission, will lead this “caretaker” body which must have at least seven members, drawn from the club’s finance and discipline commission. Tusquets was a member of Barca’s board under the reign of previous president Josep Lluis Nunez. He is president of Spanish private bank Banco Mediolanum, whose past clients include controversial former Italian president Silvio Berlusconi.

The primary job of this interim commission is to call and organise the vote to elect a new president and board of directors. Given the three-month period mandated in the club’s statutes, the elections must take place before the end of January 2021.

The steps to be taken include the public setting of the election date, confirming the “census” of socios eligible to vote, choosing a separate “election committee” to oversee the vote, presentation of candidates, and finally the scrutiny and counting of votes before the declaration of the new president.

Some of the candidates want the club to ask for special permission from the local government to amend the club’s statutes to allow e-voting, as a result of the ongoing pandemic.

Who are the main candidates?

While, in theory, any Barca socio can run for president, all candidates must present 5,506 signatures of other club members backing them. They must also present bank guarantees of 15 per cent of the club’s annual budget — a figure of around €120 million. This can be done either personally, or jointly with those who would form part of his or her incoming board.

Five “pre-candidates” have already said they will run to replace Bartomeu: Victor Font, Toni Freixa, Agusti Benedito, Jordi Farre and Lluis Fernandez.

Font has long been seen as a front runner and has talked up his closeness to former Barca playmaker Xavi Hernandez (although without any formal relationship in place).

Freixa is a former ally of Bartomeu and Rosell who has twice before resigned from roles at the club.

Benedito is a long-time critic of recent Barca boards. Farre has less institutional support, but his profile has grown hugely as he was the primary instigator of the motion of censure which finally brought down Bartomeu. Fernandez is a local businessman who wants to be a “unity candidate” and bring together the different divisions within the fanbase.

Others who may throw their hats into the ring include former president Joan Laporta, who held the role from 2003 to 2010. The most likely “continuity candidate” would be Xavier Vilajoana who, until Tuesday night, was a director in charge of Barca B and the club’s women’s teams. Former Girona president and Federacion Catalana de Futbol chief Jordi Roche is rumoured to have the backing of Rosell, who remains an influential figure in everything that goes on around the club.

Font is arguably favourite to land the role. A source close to senior dressing room figures informed The Athletic just last week that “I’d put all my money on him”. However Laporta remains a very popular figure among many Barca fans due to his association with the golden era when Pep Guardiola was coach. However the results of Barca presidential elections are notoriously difficult to predict in advance.

It is traditional for candidates to announce a “project” or “ticket”, ready to come in and hit the ground running from day one. However the current climate means none of the current candidates are in a position to promise the club can spend big money on new star signings, while vowing to change coach mid-season would be a risky campaign promise.

What does this mean for Barcelona’s finances and January spending?

In his exit speech on Tuesday, Bartomeu said that among the pressing matters the caretaker body must deal with will be negotiations with all the club’s staff over pay cuts. “We hope that in the coming days a salary adjustment can be agreed with the squad and employees, or if not there could be serious consequences for the club,” he warned.

This again laid bare the serious financial problems at Barca, which were mounting even before the COVID-19 pandemic cut off much of its revenues.

Head coach Koeman has openly called for reinforcements at centre-forward (preferably Memphis Depay from Lyon) and centre-back (possibly Eric Garcia from Manchester City) but, with money so tight, significant transfer business was unlikely even had Bartomeu and his board remained in charge. In the summer transfer window, Barcelona agreed to sign just one player — 19-year-old Ajax right-back Sergino Dest. Indeed, the main news out of the club on deadline day was the announcement of losses of almost €100 million in their annual accounts.

A source close to one of the likely contenders to win the presidency told The Athletic that under no circumstances should the interim board conduct transfer policy.

“Tusquets just has to pay the light, water and gas and call the elections,” the source said. “They have to cut money from the budget, that is clear. But the most important thing is to have elections as soon as possible.”

What other implications will this have for Barcelona on and off the field?

Senior players like Messi and Pique have been heavily critical of Bartomeu and will be relieved to see the back of him and his directors. After a disappointing start to the season, they now have no excuses for continued below-par performances on the pitch.

The first signs under new boss Koeman were quite positive but last week’s Clasico defeat by Real Madrid showed how the squad is still lacking in top quality and depth.

Koeman is unlikely to be enjoying all the extra commotion around the team, but the former Barca player and assistant manager knew what he was getting into when he accepted the job offer from Bartomeu last summer. Koeman has claimed that if the team has a successful season then whoever is the new president is unlikely to remove him.

Xavi has long been seen as a future Barca coach in waiting. Font and Laporta are among the candidates to say they see Xavi as a future Barca coach in waiting.

However, a source familiar with the 40-year-old said he had given a firm commitment to his employers in Qatar to stay there until the Gulf nation hosts the 2022 World Cup late that year.

“Xavi’s return might not be so quick,” the source said. “Also for self-preservation reasons. Maybe give Koeman another year, and then that would be a smart time to come in.”

What now for Messi?

A new board will surely have as their first order of business sorting out Messi’s future — given his current contract with Barca ends next June. If the elections are won by anybody closely associated with Rosell or Bartomeu, then it is difficult to see the Argentine agreeing to stay. Meanwhile, the club’s still delicate finances will make it tricky to keep paying his current huge salary past his 34th birthday next summer.

However Messi has repeatedly said his ideal situation is staying at Barca to win more trophies before he hangs up his boots. So his father and agent Jorge and the new president will have plenty to discuss when they do meet.

Whether or not Messi is there next season, further deep restructuring is required in the squad and the team. “A generational change is needed,” said one experienced source close to a number of Barca players, and the futures of Pique, Jordi Alba and Sergio Busquets will have to be handled very carefully.

Other players will also be wondering about their long-term futures at the Nou Camp. The questionable purchases of Dembele, Coutinho and Griezmann are all closely associated with Bartomeu, so the new regime might look on them as players who could be sold to raise the funds badly needed to properly rebuild the squad.

Did Bartomeu really say he had entered Barcelona into a future European Super League?

Bartomeu shocked everyone on Tuesday night by announcing he had “accepted a proposition to form part of a new European Super League” and also agreed with FIFA the format for a new Club World Cup.

However a club source told The Athletic these agreements were still at an “initial” stage and there was “nothing concrete signed or agreed”. Any formal agreement would also need to be ratified by the new board and then voted through an AGM of socios. “It would be part of the president’s legacy, but it is still a long way away,” the source said.

Is this the end of Bartomeu’s association with Barcelona?

Under Barca’s statutes, outgoing directors can be held responsible for losses racked up during their terms of office, via the bank guarantee they signed up to when they originally took office.

In 2014 Bartomeu and Rosell both gave evidence in court in a bid to reclaim alleged losses of €47.6 million over Laporta’s seven years in charge, maintaining that each director from that time be made to make good on their “guarantee” to the tune of €2.86 million per head. That case ran on until 2017 when Barca eventually gave up appealing it through different levels of the Spanish court system.

Some critics have wondered whether the current board remained in office so long, despite all the pressures against them, as they were concerned about being held to account in this way themselves. Bartomeu denied this outright on Tuesday, saying that “all the insinuations about these guarantees are false, and motivated by political and electoral interests”.

A source close to one of those who could become president told The Athleticthe first thing a new board would do was carry out an independent forensic investigation of the club’s accounts. The source said pursuing former directors over their guarantee was unlikely even if losses were confirmed, but any evidence of criminal wrongdoing such as misuse of funds or fraud would be passed to the authorities.

There is also a police investigation still ongoing into the social media scandal (see above), with documents taken from the Nou Camp back in July.

“The principal problem is that we do not know the exact seriousness of the club’s situation, as everything has been done out of sight,” a source close to a potential new president says. “It will be impossible to make any decisions until the new president comes in and sees the reality of the situation.”

 

The Athletic is great value for money, some superb articles on there on a weekly, if not daily basis. There's a great article on there at the moment about the tactics/formations during the Atalanta v Ajax game by Michael Cox, which was really informative and his excitement at 'rotating diamonds' was as engaging as it was insightful. Also enjoyed the article about our new defender, Wesley Fofana; there's some great club-specific stuff on there and some terrific writers, like Cox, Daniel Taylor etc. Also means you can enjoy the ad-free version of the Totally Football Show. 

 

Current offer is £6 for 6 months if anyone is on the fence about it. 

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Speaking of drama, apparently there are now TWO bids for Burnley.  We knew about ALK Capital, which looks like a bunch of American investors (including the ex-owner of Real Salt Lake) but now we have a bid from an Egyptian, Mohamed Elkahashy and a lawyer named Chris Farnell.

 

Chris Farnell, who actually failed the Fit and Proper Persons Test as he was recently involved in the chaotic takeover of Charlton.  Apparently he forgot to tick a box saying that he wasn't a director at the time of the takeover, an explanation that an independent tribunal has accepted and restored his status.

 

Farnell also was at Salisbury AFC, before they went bust.

 

He was also involved with Steve Dale at Bury - you know, the guy who made them go bust.

 

Farnell had previously worked with Massimo Cellino.

 

We've found our fucking Venkys.

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Have to agree with @Stopharage & @Plissken, the Athletic is excellent and I'd hate to be without it. It's raised the level of sport coverage so much it's good value even at the full whack £60 for a year.

 

Why I post the odd articles in here to give people an idea of the content - I've got some free 1 month passes if anybody wants one just PM me.

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Agreed, I signed up when it was half price and it’s definitely worth the money. I do wonder how well they are doing because they’ve just extended their £1 a month offer for another month and the number of people who paid full price to subscribe must be minimal.

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9 minutes ago, Plissken said:

A case of technology enhancing, rather than ruining football.

 

 

 

I believe FIFA are genuinely trying to automate VAR for offside, imagine those developers are scrambling back to look at their test scripts to see if 'bald striker runs past bald defender with bald referee' is one of their use cases.

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1 hour ago, layten said:

Is sports personality happening this year? Or are they just going to give the award to Rashford without the bother of a vote, as I cannot think of anyone else even being close to as deserving.

Is that against new BBC guideline though? And anyone in the crowd who works for the BBC could be sacked if they clap as him winning might upset racists, fans of clubs who don't like Man U, Tory MPs, rugby fans, etc.

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Wolves v Palace tonight, hope you Wolves boys enjoy the most possession (and probably goals) you will see this season!

 

I know "it's a results business" but I hate watching us sit back and do nothing for 90 minutes and preying that Zaha is having a good day, the less said about the pass completion % the better.  

 

                

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3 hours ago, skadupuk said:

Wolves v Palace tonight, hope you Wolves boys enjoy the most possession (and probably goals) you will see this season!

 

I know "it's a results business" but I hate watching us sit back and do nothing for 90 minutes and preying that Zaha is having a good day, the less said about the pass completion % the better.  

 

                

You guys are giving our wing backs far too much space. 

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