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Di Maria should have gone earlier too for a disgrace of a challenge on Payet.

 

Neymar has complained of a racist insult from Alvaro - apparently telling the Brazillian to "shut up you macaco (Portuguese for monkey)".

 

 

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13 hours ago, Pants McSkill said:

Check this for a photo:

 

Thanks for sharing that, we made the file saying 'play beautiful/play free' so the photo's going down well among my team :)

 

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21 hours ago, Sirloin said:

Five red cards in injury time in the PSG vs Marseille game. First Marseille win in 10 years and PSG lost both their opening two games.

 

Didn't Di Maria also spit in the face of an opponent? Disgusting enough at the best of times, but with the pandemic going on, and also considering it was Di Maria's first game back after actually fucking contracting Covid, it's genuinely next-level cuntery. 

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26 minutes ago, bradigor said:

Adam Lallana just can't catch a break.


This is why Klopp didn’t play him at the end of the season. Kepa failing to keep out a long range shot again.

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those proper football men that find xG distasteful are really not going to warm much to PPDA - passes per defensive action, an interesting look at the stats behind Mourinho claiming Spurs' press at the weekend was 'lazy' - from the Athletic

 

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The main source of Mourinho’s disappointment (despite the result) was how his side attempted to press Everton. “Lazy pressure” was what he labelled his side’s attempts to close down their opponent, especially when Everton were passing out from the back.

So, was Spurs’ pressure lazy?

PPDA, or passes allowed per opponent defensive action, is one such proxy to try and capture the degree to which an opponent is pressuring the opposition. For those unfamiliar, the stat looks to count the number of times that a team attempts a defensive action, such as a tackle or interception, compared to the number of times the opposition attempts a pass.

A low PPDA number indicates higher intensity when trying to win the ball back and a higher figure indicates a team that is more passive without the ball.

Spurs’ PPDA for the game against Everton sat at 11.9, lower than Mourinho’s average of 12.4 since joining last November and slightly lower than the league average too. All models are wrong but some are useful, as the saying goes, and that’s definitely the case here. PPDA tells us that Tottenham tried to press, but it doesn’t give us any indication of the successful execution of that strategy — or the degree of laziness, if we’re talking in Mourinho’s language.

Another perspective is required, one that attempts to understand the quality of a press, not the mere presence of it.

One means of understanding this is to consider how many times a team pressures the ball, and how often that leads to a turnover of possession. Statsbomb pressure data via fbref calculates exactly this and can help to evaluate the quality of a press. Again, no model is perfect, but it’s a good enough proxy.

Spurs pressured Everton 220 times and, of those, won possession of the ball back just 43 times within five seconds. As a percentage, that indicates Tottenham’s pressure was successful 19.5 per cent of the time, the lowest figure in the Premier League so far this season, just a touch below Fulham (19.6 per cent).

Spurs were applying pressure, but it wasn’t leading to turnovers, and also failing to stop Everton from getting into the final third or progressing through to the middle of the field. Lazy pressure indeed.

So does the blame automatically go to the players though? Well, not entirely.

Pressing isn’t a binary tactic. You don’t decide as a manager that you want your team to press, and it suddenly is a successful means of approaching the game when out of possession.

Pressing can be co-ordinated and deadly if employed correctly, something with which Spurs fans are only too familiar, given they were one of the best pressing sides in the league during the early years of Mauricio Pochettino’s reign at the club.

Mourinho succinctly summed up the impact of a bad press to Sky Sports after the game, saying “when you have lazy pressure, you don’t press, you allow opponents to build from the back. Lazy pressure up front creates unbalanced situations for the rest of the team”.

The key part of that first quote is how lazy pressure means you don’t press. That’s an important delineation to bear in mind. Pressure comes from one player, a press is the co-ordination of multiple pressures simultaneously or sequentially.

Think of a time when you’ve played football and you’ve chased down the player on the ball, only for them to fully alleviate all the pressure you applied by making a simple sideways pass to a free team-mate. That was good pressurefrom you (give yourself a pat on the back) but bad pressing (give your team-mates the hairdryer after the match).

The knowledge of when and where to press in a game to form an effective press has to come from training, and that’s on the coaching staff.

Going back to the numbers, Tottenham’s 220 pressures was the most in the Premier League this weekend, and the third-highest in a game under Mourinho. That’s ammunition to suggest that the level of effort was there from the players, but the co-ordination of the press wasn’t.

 

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4 hours ago, DirkCrisis said:

Well that was annoying. A good performance wiped out by a mistake, a worldie and a deflection. 

 

And we lost Lallana but at least got 40 minutes out of him.

 

Yeah, a better illustration of why Chelsea have bought defensively you couldn't hope for than this performance before they arrive. (While also missing the only 2 redeeming features of last season's defence).

 

Could very easily have gone the other way as a game.

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2 hours ago, Gotters said:

those proper football men that find xG distasteful are really not going to warm much to PPDA - passes per defensive action, an interesting look at the stats behind Mourinho claiming Spurs' press at the weekend was 'lazy' - from the Athletic

 

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The main source of Mourinho’s disappointment (despite the result) was how his side attempted to press Everton. “Lazy pressure” was what he labelled his side’s attempts to close down their opponent, especially when Everton were passing out from the back.

So, was Spurs’ pressure lazy?

PPDA, or passes allowed per opponent defensive action, is one such proxy to try and capture the degree to which an opponent is pressuring the opposition. For those unfamiliar, the stat looks to count the number of times that a team attempts a defensive action, such as a tackle or interception, compared to the number of times the opposition attempts a pass.

A low PPDA number indicates higher intensity when trying to win the ball back and a higher figure indicates a team that is more passive without the ball.

Spurs’ PPDA for the game against Everton sat at 11.9, lower than Mourinho’s average of 12.4 since joining last November and slightly lower than the league average too. All models are wrong but some are useful, as the saying goes, and that’s definitely the case here. PPDA tells us that Tottenham tried to press, but it doesn’t give us any indication of the successful execution of that strategy — or the degree of laziness, if we’re talking in Mourinho’s language.

Another perspective is required, one that attempts to understand the quality of a press, not the mere presence of it.

One means of understanding this is to consider how many times a team pressures the ball, and how often that leads to a turnover of possession. Statsbomb pressure data via fbref calculates exactly this and can help to evaluate the quality of a press. Again, no model is perfect, but it’s a good enough proxy.

Spurs pressured Everton 220 times and, of those, won possession of the ball back just 43 times within five seconds. As a percentage, that indicates Tottenham’s pressure was successful 19.5 per cent of the time, the lowest figure in the Premier League so far this season, just a touch below Fulham (19.6 per cent).

Spurs were applying pressure, but it wasn’t leading to turnovers, and also failing to stop Everton from getting into the final third or progressing through to the middle of the field. Lazy pressure indeed.

So does the blame automatically go to the players though? Well, not entirely.

Pressing isn’t a binary tactic. You don’t decide as a manager that you want your team to press, and it suddenly is a successful means of approaching the game when out of possession.

Pressing can be co-ordinated and deadly if employed correctly, something with which Spurs fans are only too familiar, given they were one of the best pressing sides in the league during the early years of Mauricio Pochettino’s reign at the club.

Mourinho succinctly summed up the impact of a bad press to Sky Sports after the game, saying “when you have lazy pressure, you don’t press, you allow opponents to build from the back. Lazy pressure up front creates unbalanced situations for the rest of the team”.

The key part of that first quote is how lazy pressure means you don’t press. That’s an important delineation to bear in mind. Pressure comes from one player, a press is the co-ordination of multiple pressures simultaneously or sequentially.

Think of a time when you’ve played football and you’ve chased down the player on the ball, only for them to fully alleviate all the pressure you applied by making a simple sideways pass to a free team-mate. That was good pressurefrom you (give yourself a pat on the back) but bad pressing (give your team-mates the hairdryer after the match).

The knowledge of when and where to press in a game to form an effective press has to come from training, and that’s on the coaching staff.

Going back to the numbers, Tottenham’s 220 pressures was the most in the Premier League this weekend, and the third-highest in a game under Mourinho. That’s ammunition to suggest that the level of effort was there from the players, but the co-ordination of the press wasn’t.

 

 

 

That's a very strange article. While it does a good job of describing one difference between effective and non-efffective pressing, it's also completely fails to explain what Spurs were doing. If there was a press from the front three but none from midfield (the lack of co-ordination it mentions), then surely that backs up Jose's claims of lazy players? 

 

And I'm not a fan of the insinuation that stats around pressing are a marker of how well a team is doing. Leicester won the league with a low block. Chelsea won the league with Conte's take on a mid-block Catenaccio.

 

There's a thing in football where it's clickbaity to just claim whatever is currently fashionable is the best way to play. But most of us know it's far more rock/paper/scissors than that. 

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That's a very strange article. While it does a good job of describing one difference between effective and non-efffective pressing, it's also completely fails to explain what Spurs were doing. If there was a press from the front three but none from midfield (the lack of co-ordination it mentions), then surely that backs up Jose's claims of lazy players? 

 

And I'm not a fan of the insinuation that stats around pressing are a marker of how well a team is doing. Leicester won the league with a low block. Chelsea won the league with Conte's take on a mid-block Catenaccio.

 

There's a thing in football where it's clickbaity to just claim whatever is currently fashionable is the best way to play. But most of us know it's far more rock/paper/scissors than that. 

 

I left a lot out as it was specific examples with a lot of pics that wouldn't carry across, here is the whole article - I think the purpose of the article was taking a good quote from Jose and trying to demonstrate what he meant by it, its not advocating that the pressing game is the only way to play.

 

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“I’m disappointed with my team.”

There are few things worse for a manager to say after an opening game of a new season, but that’s exactly what Jose Mourinho told reporters after his side’s defeat by Everton on Sunday.

Spurs lost 1-0, and were outshot (15 to nine) and out xG’d (1.2 to 1.13) in the process. On paper, that says they were slightly unfortunate to come away from the game without any points, given Everton didn’t batter them in terms of the quality of chances that they created.

Matt Doherty had his now-characteristic big chance of the match after floating in from the right, and Dele Alli also had a great opportunity to score (worth 0.36 xG, Spurs’ best chance of the game), although that was arguably a bad outcome, and one reflective of new-season rustiness, given Spurs created this…

…from this…

Nevertheless, this is a team who have top-six aspirations and should be either creating far better chances or limiting those of their opposition.

The main source of Mourinho’s disappointment (despite the result) was how his side attempted to press Everton. “Lazy pressure” was what he labelled his side’s attempts to close down their opponent, especially when Everton were passing out from the back.

So, was Spurs’ pressure lazy?

PPDA, or passes allowed per opponent defensive action, is one such proxy to try and capture the degree to which an opponent is pressuring the opposition. For those unfamiliar, the stat looks to count the number of times that a team attempts a defensive action, such as a tackle or interception, compared to the number of times the opposition attempts a pass.

A low PPDA number indicates higher intensity when trying to win the ball back and a higher figure indicates a team that is more passive without the ball.

Spurs’ PPDA for the game against Everton sat at 11.9, lower than Mourinho’s average of 12.4 since joining last November and slightly lower than the league average too. All models are wrong but some are useful, as the saying goes, and that’s definitely the case here. PPDA tells us that Tottenham tried to press, but it doesn’t give us any indication of the successful execution of that strategy — or the degree of laziness, if we’re talking in Mourinho’s language.

Another perspective is required, one that attempts to understand the quality of a press, not the mere presence of it.

One means of understanding this is to consider how many times a team pressures the ball, and how often that leads to a turnover of possession. Statsbomb pressure data via fbref calculates exactly this and can help to evaluate the quality of a press. Again, no model is perfect, but it’s a good enough proxy.

Spurs pressured Everton 220 times and, of those, won possession of the ball back just 43 times within five seconds. As a percentage, that indicates Tottenham’s pressure was successful 19.5 per cent of the time, the lowest figure in the Premier League so far this season, just a touch below Fulham (19.6 per cent).

Spurs were applying pressure, but it wasn’t leading to turnovers, and also failing to stop Everton from getting into the final third or progressing through to the middle of the field. Lazy pressure indeed.

So does the blame automatically go to the players though? Well, not entirely.

Pressing isn’t a binary tactic. You don’t decide as a manager that you want your team to press, and it suddenly is a successful means of approaching the game when out of possession.

Pressing can be co-ordinated and deadly if employed correctly, something with which Spurs fans are only too familiar, given they were one of the best pressing sides in the league during the early years of Mauricio Pochettino’s reign at the club.

Mourinho succinctly summed up the impact of a bad press to Sky Sports after the game, saying “when you have lazy pressure, you don’t press, you allow opponents to build from the back. Lazy pressure up front creates unbalanced situations for the rest of the team”.

The key part of that first quote is how lazy pressure means you don’t press. That’s an important delineation to bear in mind. Pressure comes from one player, a press is the co-ordination of multiple pressures simultaneously or sequentially.

Think of a time when you’ve played football and you’ve chased down the player on the ball, only for them to fully alleviate all the pressure you applied by making a simple sideways pass to a free team-mate. That was good pressurefrom you (give yourself a pat on the back) but bad pressing (give your team-mates the hairdryer after the match).

The knowledge of when and where to press in a game to form an effective press has to come from training, and that’s on the coaching staff.

Going back to the numbers, Tottenham’s 220 pressures was the most in the Premier League this weekend, and the third-highest in a game under Mourinho. That’s ammunition to suggest that the level of effort was there from the players, but the co-ordination of the press wasn’t.

Here’s one such example of that lack of co-ordination. Everton start with a goal kick in the fourth minute of the game, and Jordan Pickford elects to play it short. Yerry Mina receives the ball from Pickford, which triggers Alli to pressure the Colombian…

…but given the lengths Alli has to go to, Mina has time to coolly play it square to Michael Keane, who is under no pressure from Harry Kane. Kane jogs in Lucas Digne’s general direction with little conviction, and Keane passes the ball out to him.

Lucas Moura is triggered to start pressuring Digne when the Frenchman receives the ball. Digne is still able to get the ball down the line with relative ease. While he makes the pass, Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg sprints to close down Andre Gomes, leaving a big gap behind him.

Richarlison receives the ball and is under intense pressure from Doherty. A heavy touch should be pounced on by Spurs, but the ball pops back to Digne…

…who gets a pass off to Abdoulaye Doucoure ahead of Hojbjerg…

…who knocks it back to Gomes despite being under pressure from Harry Winks…

…who sprays it out wide to Seamus Coleman.

From there, Everton manage to get the ball into the box, but a Richarlison air-shot ends the sequence of play. Below is an overhead view of how that sequence unfolded.

There’s another example again in the 28th minute. Jordan Pickford receives the ball and is being closed down by Kane.

Kane’s pressure is fairly poor, however, and Pickford is easily able to step past him and slot the ball through to Gomes in midfield, with Allan moving to the right side of the pitch to make space for Gomes in behind. Hojbjerg again is very aggressive in his movement, following Allan without thinking of what’s happening behind him.

Again, Spurs’ structure in this situation is pretty poor. Kane’s pressing was lazy here, yes, but there’s no player on the left side of the field to close down Gomes or stop Keane — who is stood behind Kane inside the box — from being an easy passing option.

Again, this move progresses upfield fairly quickly from here, reaching the penalty area, as you can see from the pass map below.

These examples point to a clear lack of principles: the when and where aren’t clear, and all of the effort that’s required to turn pressure into pressing is wasted.

There’s also a clear thread in both examples of Hojbjerg’s high-energy approach, which provides a wonderful example of why sprint distance and speed without context is useless. The Dane may need some time to unlearn the high-octane pressing style that he was a part of at Southampton.

Is this a case of paralysis by analysis, and we’re zooming in too much on a single game? Again, the data shows perhaps not. Here’s that successful pressure metric again, for each of Spurs’ games since the start of last season.

There was a clear fluctuation in the effectiveness of the pressing for Spurs under Pochettino and Mourinho before the COVID-19-enforced lockdown. Since the restart, there’s a clear downward trend on Spurs’ inability to apply pressure effectively.

It’s tough to predict which direction this will go in next, but for now, it seems clear that Spurs’ pressing, while present, isn’t all that effective. There are structural issues that need addressing.

So how do Spurs and Mourinho go about mending the press?

One such solution is to forget the press entirely and elect instead to clog the midfield and block the passing lanes that lead to easy ball progression. Spurs have great counter-attacking options and can use the energy they’re preserving from not applying pressure to break from deep instead.

This could either be a longer-term strategy — and that may well be the best option, given Mourinho hasn’t had overly effective pressing sides in the past — or just one to use until the squad is back to match fitness.

The alternative solution would be to use training to better teach the players about the triggers of when and where to apply pressure, turning Tottenham’s individual efforts to win the ball back into a more cohesive, mechanistic method when out of possession. History tells us that this is a big ask: Mourinho’s teams haven’t ever really been lauded for their high-pressing approach, especially not in a way that is comparable to effective high-pressing teams in the modern game.

Mourinho’s attempt to employ a pressing strategy after the shortest (and weirdest) pre-season ever does feel somewhat short-sighted, and also part of a recent trend in Spurs’ inability to turn pressure into pressing.

Of course, Tottenham’s season doesn’t hinge on one game, but how the side bounces back after an opening-day defeat, and either looks to fix or abandon the press, is one of the main themes to pay attention to in their next few games.

 

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Good news! The Burnley vs Sheffield United Carabao Cup tie will be streamed live via the official Carabao Cup website.

 

It's going to cost you the tiny sum of £10!  Just £10!  And season ticket holders get a 100% non-discount!

 

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12 minutes ago, Plissken said:

Good news! The Burnley vs Sheffield United Carabao Cup tie will be streamed live via the official Carabao Cup website.

 

It's going to cost you the tiny sum of £10!  Just £10!  And season ticket holders get a 100% non-discount!

 

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I think Leeds game against League 1 Hull is the same. Hope it's better than the EFL streaming site which is useless. Or is it the same thing?

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IIRC, the only Carabao Cup game that Dyche has won during his time at the club was Blackburn away, the one that he would have been absolutely criticised for if he hadn't.

 

I think his domestic Cup record overall is something like played 15, won 4.  Most of those losses are to lower division opposition.

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6 hours ago, Mike1812 said:

I think Leeds game against League 1 Hull is the same. Hope it's better than the EFL streaming site which is useless. Or is it the same thing?

 

I've watched two of our games on iFollow so far and it's been fine. It isn't TV coverage but it's fine. It's better than not seeing it. Our home games are free as we can't attend yet.

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I know it's only the League Cup, but it's Villa's opening game of the 2020/21 season as our Premier League fixture was postponed at the weekend. 
 

Grealish signed a new contract today and then plays a pass with so much disguise on it that Neil Taylor doesn't even realise where the ball has gone for a couple of seconds before he squares it to Ollie Watkins for a debut goal. Jack does another one of those volley's from a corner that he seems to be almost as good at doing as Paul Scholes was.  Decent day all round.

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Not sure what to make of the story about Bale returning to Spurs, and it being Levy not Jose behind the move.

 

Apparently Real will pay half his £600k a week wages to get him partially off the books, is this great business by Levy to get a top operator for 'just' wages or Levy unable to resist getting back a player he got a then world record fee as just a loaner.

 

Irrespective of the financials I'm not sure 2020 Bale is cut out for the EPL anymore, he's never been that robust and is now 30+ with a lot of muscle injuries, if not a lot of matches in his legs. My suspicion is he could look decent for a game or two but isn't worth the wages it would cost to get him back, even as a loan. 

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