Edge #342

[Mr Do 71]

 

Hype has a look at, The Room VR: A Dark Matter, Zombie Army 4: Dead War, Drake Hollow, Receiver 2, GTFO, and Meteorfall: Krumit's Tale

 

Hype Roundup has a quick shifty at, Pokémon Sword & Shield: Isle of Armor, Say No! More, Weird West, Wicca, and Resident Evil 3.

 

Fewtures include, Hytale - A next generation block game that gives power to the people, Collected Works: Naoki Yoshida - Final Fantasy XIV director. Chaos Engine - More games than ever run on randomness, and it's transformed the industry as we know it.

 

Reviews:

Kentucky Route Zero -  9

Darwin Project - 8

Darksiders Genesis - 6

Arise: A Simply Story - 8

Shovel Knight: King of Cards - 8

Super Crush KO - 7

Lego Builder's Journey - 7

Kuukiyomi: Consider II - 6

Lightmatter - 7

 

The Making of Observation.

Studio Profile visits Inkle.

Time Extend looks back on The Banner Saga Trilogy.

The Long Game is still playing Destiny 2.

[Rex Grossman]

Nothing to do with the content in this issue but I'm finally cancelling my subscription with this one after 342 issues. Keep putting it off.

[Alex W.]

Observation was criminally overlooked last year (although not by Edge). Looking forward to reading that article.

[vladtepess]

Am I the only one to think that at least on the Hype section recently we have too many PC games? I mean in the last three issues the 60% of the games were PC exclusives, probably the post Christmas drought is to blame but I do not buy PC magazine for a reason...

[Rex Grossman]

Just now, vladtepess said:

Am I the only one to think that at least on the Hype section recently we have too many PC games? I mean in the last three issue the 60% of the games were PC exclusives, probably the post Christmas drought is o blame but I do not buy PC magazine for a reason...

 

Having never been a PC gamer this is one of the main bugbears nowadays.

[joffocakes]

Damn the PC and its interesting games.

[Rex Grossman]

6 minutes ago, joffocakes said:

Damn the PC and its interesting games.

 

They're less interesting if you're never going own a gaming PC though.

[Radish]

Edge should change from being multi platform to only the platforms I’m interested in. 

[Rex Grossman]

3 minutes ago, Radish said:

Edge should change from being multi platform to only the platforms I’m interested in. 

 

Or strike a better balance, I dunno?

[Fry Crayola]

Surely it should follow the interesting games where they go? 

[Broker]

Maybe the console manufacturers need to strike a better balance of shit, generic games and interesting ones. When everything the triple A publishers are pushing is just a reskin of the same garbage they’ve been selling us since the 360 launch what are edge supposed to say? Yup, it’s yet another Asscred/cod/far cry/uncharted/forza. How many times can they review or discuss franchises with no real innovations before they basically start copy and pasting?

[Rex Grossman]

11 minutes ago, Fry Crayola said:

Surely it should follow the interesting games where they go? 

 

I don't disagree, I just haven't felt those PC games I'll never play looked so interesting I wanted to read about them anyway.

 

Not that I blame Edge for this, but a typical issue feels like 50% PC, 40% PS4/Xbox One bland franchise updates, 5% mobile, 5% Switch.

[Capwn]

Imagine being Kojima and reading this issue of Edge to discover that they gave the same score that they did to Death Stranding to Kuukiyomi: Consider II;

 

[Broker]

6 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

I also think they would benefit from re-appraising prominent GaaS titles annually or following a particularly major update - like they did with Destiny. A one side cursory glance at the odd title isn’t sufficient.

Jesus Christ, so your plan is for them to write fucking updates on the exact same games every month that they’ve already reviewed? Like “bit of trouble in Fortnite 6 weeks ago when we were writing this”? What benefit could there possibly be to discussing games that make tiny changes once a week in a format that can’t get into readers hands for several weeks after publication? 

[Mr. Gerbik]

47 minutes ago, vladtepess said:

Am I the only one to think that at least on the Hype section recently we have too many PC games? I mean in the last three issues the 60% of the games were PC exclusives, probably the post Christmas drought is to blame but I do not buy PC magazine for a reason...

 

46 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

 

Having never been a PC gamer this is one of the main bugbears nowadays.

Edge has always gravitated towards interesting and innovative games. They should not consider the platform, since they're not there to advocate one platform over another. Since you both seem to be buying a multiplatform magazine, I would assume you also like to read about interesting games. Or else you surely would buy the official single platform magazine?

 

Besides, and this is besides the point but probably illuminating nonetheless: most, if not all of those interesting games you're complaining about eventually make their way to consoles. So either way you look at it, this is probably the weirdest complaint I've read about edge on this forum since I joined in 2005.

[Broker]

6 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

Is this a defence or criticism of Edge? Because there are some franchises that get a pass on exhaustive coverage without offering anything particularly innovative over the previous entry. They just aren’t by big western devs.

A defence. Triple A games and most major console releases are generic, identical shite. Why would journalists who want to write about games want to repeatedly write the same shit about the same boring games?

[Alex W.]

It is not what is happening.

 

Also the idea that a magazine shouldn’t be writing about games you’ve never heard of seems to completely misunderstand one of the purposes of writing about new games.

[Broker]

It’s not what’s happening, they’re neglecting boring shite. Which obviously differs person to person, but if your idea of interesting is more insights into Fortnite, a game whose innovations are entirely in forcing people to play more and creating FOMO in their shop I’m bloody glad you’re not editing any magazines.

[Qazimod]

24 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

I also think they would benefit from re-appraising prominent GaaS titles annually or following a particularly major update - like they did with Destiny. A one side cursory glance at the odd title isn’t sufficient.

The Long Game and Still Playing do this.

[Alex W.]

I came off as harsh there but I would personally rather read a dozen articles about games I might never play - especially if I’m not going to play them but there’s something interesting about them I might enjoy reading - than a month-late write-up of the same scripted corporate preview event every web site and Twitter account has already picked apart.

[Mr Combo Breaker]

where the fuck is all the Pokemon Go coverage, assholes, I want to know what was happening in the game a month ago!

 

so apart from fortnite what Console games worthy of coverage are they ognoring?

[Broker]

5 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

Nobody is forced to play more Fortnite. Ignorance.

 

Kinda strange they never reviewed it given they awarded PUBG a 9 or 10 right?

 

I don’t think they should be omitting games for being ”too casual”. Or whatever.

They gave PUBG a good score because it was a new idea. I imagine they’ve probably covered interesting aspects of Fortnite, like it’s huge popularity, since it released. But their scores are almost entirely based on innovation. They’re the kind of entity that gives LittleBigPlanet a 10 because it’s a clever idea, even though the controls are broken. Fortnite isn’t casual, it’s popular. And desperately chasing whatever is popular has never really been the point of EDGE. The only really innovative parts of Fortnite are the shop, and the speed of updates. Those things are not really worth covering in a magazine that you won’t be able to read until they’ve changed completely.

 

Fortnite isn’t interesting, it’s popular. You generally don’t get very popular by being too clever or interesting. It’s the same reason Empire doesn’t critically reassess Michael Bay’s transformers every few months. You can just assume those things are still bland garbage.

[PeteBrant]

4 minutes ago, Broker said:

 

 

Fortnite isn’t interesting, it’s popular. You generally don’t get very popular by being too clever or interesting. 

popularity and quality are not mutually exclusive . 

[Mr. Gerbik]

If edge doesn't cover exactly what you specifically want, I have good news for you:

[Rex Grossman]

I’ve played a part in derailing this thread which wasn’t my plan.

 

The issue for me as someone who is unfortunately bored of Edge is that I’ve not been finding the interesting-to-the-majority-of-readers PC games interesting to read about any more. 

 

I’m not convinced Edge has changed its approach but I’ve certainly changed. Didn’t quite expect people to get so agitated about this but I probably should have.

[Isaac]

9 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

I’ve played a part in derailing this thread which wasn’t my plan.

 

The issue for me as someone who is unfortunately bored of Edge is that I’ve not been finding the interesting-to-the-majority-of-readers PC games interesting to read about any more. 

 

I’m not convinced Edge has changed its approach but I’ve certainly changed. Didn’t quite expect people to get so agitated about this but I probably should have.

 

Why don't you find them interesting any more?

[Rex Grossman]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

If edge doesn't cover exactly what you specifically want, I have good news for you:

 

Yes, there are only two types of gamer/magazine! LOL!

[womblingfree]

12 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

Didn’t quite expect people to get so agitated about this but I probably should have.

This should be the Forum's motto.

 

Maybe in Latin 

[Rex Grossman]

3 minutes ago, Isaac said:

 

Why don't you find them interesting any more?

 

Not sure. Maybe it's because I have less time for games in general so I'm less likely to get into something that isn't necessarily a potential purchase. As a kid and a teenager I read pretty much every games mag on the shelf. It's probably why I work on magazines now.

[gossi the dog]

3 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

This will surprise you, but the writing is not of the same quality as Edge.

 

But you get two free water pistols and a pack of sweets!