Copyright strikes on Retro game Youtube vids - Paul Andrews?

[Rex Grossman]

CVG had a retro gaming section in the late 90s: The Micro Goblin’s Computer Cabin (or something).

The first regular mainstream retro collecting coverage in the British media?

[Rex Grossman]

Also I had some C64 games that let you play a Space Invaders clone during loading in the late 1980s.

[Camel]

In the mid-late 90s I bought an Atari 2600 from Computer Exchange in Notting Hill. I'd seen it in the window a couple of times and was strangely drawn to it, having had one as a child. I'd say that was the start of my retro gaming adventures, but the truth is I had never got rid of my Mega Drive, SNES or Commodore 64. The latter was stored at my parents' though and it wasn't until I'd bought that 2600 and a couple of games, that I dug it out and started using that too. 

 

Anyway, the point is Computer Exchange had a big retro section even then and that's where I started my 2600 cartridge collection. They also sold C64/Spectrum tapes, though I don't believe I picked any up. I doubt they would have called it 'retro', they just had a load of old second hand gaming stuff in stock.

[Protocol Penguin]

36 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

CVG had a retro gaming section in the late 90s: The Micro Goblin’s Computer Cabin (or something).

The first regular mainstream retro collecting coverage in the British media?

Super Play did a feature on retro gaming in issue 37, cover-dated November 1995, which (IIRC) pre-dates the C&VG columns. Although there is almost certainly earlier articles than that. 

 

 

[nakamura]

But what is retro?

[Dudley]

11 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

CVG had a retro gaming section in the late 90s: The Micro Goblin’s Computer Cabin (or something).

The first regular mainstream retro collecting coverage in the British media?

 

Yep, went through 2 or 3 editors, most notably Dave Kelsall.  Wasn't even late 90s, was 95/96.

[strider]

19 minutes ago, Camel said:

 

Not so sure about this personally.

 

Mini consoles - the Atari Flashback came out in 2004. The C64DTV in the same year. 

Games being released on old hardware - has this ever really stopped? The GBA version of Activision Anthology (2003) contains homebrew Atari 2600 games.

Events - I remember attending a retro gaming event in Croydon's Fairfield Halls sometime in the early 2000s. No small thing. eg, Archer Maclean, Billy Mitchell and Doris Self were there.
 

I'm not saying all these things only just happened, I simply observed that they seem far more commercial now than they've ever been and that's largely happened in the last decade.

[maryliddon]

How has Retrogamer's sales tracked that boom?

[strider]

3 minutes ago, maryliddon said:

How has Retrogamer's sales tracked that boom?

We’ve seen a notable increase in both subs and newsstand sales, so we’re doing okay.

[Protocol Penguin]

From Super Play issue 35 (dated September 1995), on their guide to the fledgling World Wide Web (source):

 

 

Edit: even earlier is sort of a proto-retrogaming article in issue 17 of ACE from December 1988 (source), which isn't about retro gaming as we'd know it as such, more a "remember those early 8-bit computers we used to play games on?" nostalgia fest. Nostalgia for computers which in some cases were barely more than half-a-decade old at the time of publication.

Edited October 23, 2019 by Protocol Penguin

[K]

5 minutes ago, strider said:

We’ve seen a notable increase in both subs and newsstand sales, so we’re doing okay.

 

I guess one of the advantages of a retro mag is that its core audience will always prefer a magazine over a website.

[Rex Grossman]

31 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

Yep, went through 2 or 3 editors, most notably Dave Kelsall.  Wasn't even late 90s, was 95/96.

I work with Dave now and he never stops talking about it.

[strider]

8 minutes ago, K said:

 

I guess one of the advantages of a retro mag is that its core audience will always prefer a magazine over a website.

Let’s hope so.

[SeanR]

15 minutes ago, K said:

 

I guess one of the advantages of a retro mag is that its core audience will always prefer a magazine over a website.

“a whaaaaat?”

[Anne Summers]

58 minutes ago, Rex Grossman said:

CVG had a retro gaming section in the late 90s: The Micro Goblin’s Computer Cabin (or something).

The first regular mainstream retro collecting coverage in the British media?

 

Didn't Edge have a retro page right from issue 1 in 1993/94?

 

Our infographic picks out 1997 as a particularly notable year in the "Birth of retro" ...first version of MAME is released, first recorded use of the term "retro game", in Next Generation magazine. Also the first museum exhibition opens dedicated to gaming history, at the Computerspielemuseum, Berlin.

 

I remember when I was writing it people asking me why I didn't include the release of Pong in 1972. Not quite understanding the difference between writing an infographic on video game history (starts in the 70s) and an infographic on retro gaming history (starts in the 90s, probably). 

[Swainy]

I used to run a website during the late 90’s/early 2000’s called Gamestyle and we used to have a retro section on that by some bloke called Darran Jones. 

[Rex Grossman]

This really has gone way off topic now – into something legitimately interesting. Well done, everyone.

[strider]

12 minutes ago, Anne Summers said:

 

Didn't Edge have a retro page right from issue 1 in 1993/94?

 

Our infographic picks out 1997 as a particularly notable year in the "Birth of retro" ...first version of MAME is released, first recorded use of the term "retro game", in Next Generation magazine. Also the first museum exhibition opens dedicated to gaming history, at the Computerspielemuseum, Berlin.

 

I remember when I was writing it people asking me why I didn't include the release of Pong in 1972. Not quite understanding the difference between writing an infographic on video game history (starts in the 70s) and an infographic on retro gaming history (starts in the 90s, probably). 

I think you could be right about Edge.

i certainly remember the back page of arcade having a lot of retro stuff, like the force from r-type.

[SeanR]

I was emulating  the Apple Mac and spectrum on the Atari st. Is that retro?

 

once I emulated an Atari st emulating a spectrum on a pc, early 90s

[Swainy]

Just now, SeanR said:

I was emulating  the Apple Mac and spectrum on the Atari st. Is that retro?

 

once I emulated an Atari st emulating a spectrum on a pc, early 90s

I always trying to get Spectrum games running (via emulation) at a decent speed on my Amiga back in 91/92. God knows why. I still had my Speccy.

[Protocol Penguin]

Another early populariser of the concept of retro gaming, starting a regular column on the subject back in 1994...

[SeanR]

[Flub]

6 hours ago, maryliddon said:

 

William defintely doesn't any rights of the game and I had a chat with Alfred this morning. I used to work at Beam in my twenties

 

Did you take the mammoth to work grandad?

[wev]

If Andrews does indeed own the rights I still don't get why he didn't just show evidence of doing so, alot of the shit surrounding this would have disappeared if he had have done that. 

[maryliddon]

It'd also mean whoever is doing a LOT of Wikipedia editing claiming Andrews ownership of this IP would have something to cite.

Right now they keep getting reverted

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ch.Davis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.48.245.74?fbclid=IwAR0bTep_bbi5hWk0zUQA_WNk5oOT_Q7R2s9TrCH8m6wnQ_NCLzAramThSnI

 

[gizmo1990]

4 hours ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Edit: even earlier is sort of a proto-retrogaming article in issue 17 of ACE from December 1988 (source), which isn't about retro gaming as we'd know it as such, more a "remember those early 8-bit computers we used to play games on?" nostalgia fest. Nostalgia for computers which in some cases were barely more than half-a-decade old at the time of publication.

 

Good call! Goes to shelf and pulls out issue 17, finds article, smells paper. (Yes, I'm weird) What's really interesting (and what I find a lot now) is the way old computers like the Speccy were mentioned back then, as though they're machines from a far bygone age. Some of the computers we used then are still around today! When in reality it was just a few years! Correlate that with today when say 2015, doesn't feel very long ago at all. It's very odd and imo driven a lot by the pace of life now and tech bombarding and connecting us. Sorry, getting a bit off topic now..

[K]

5 hours ago, Anne Summers said:

 

Didn't Edge have a retro page right from issue 1 in 1993/94?

 

I’ve just had a flick through Edge issue 1, and it doesn’t. 

[DeciderVT]

8 hours ago, Camel said:

In the mid-late 90s I bought an Atari 2600 from Computer Exchange in Notting Hill. I'd seen it in the window a couple of times and was strangely drawn to it, having had one as a child. I'd say that was the start of my retro gaming adventures, but the truth is I had never got rid of my Mega Drive, SNES or Commodore 64. The latter was stored at my parents' though and it wasn't until I'd bought that 2600 and a couple of games, that I dug it out and started using that too. 

 

Anyway, the point is Computer Exchange had a big retro section even then and that's where I started my 2600 cartridge collection. They also sold C64/Spectrum tapes, though I don't believe I picked any up. I doubt they would have called it 'retro', they just had a load of old second hand gaming stuff in stock.

 

There was also a fully fledged "retro" CeX in Whitfield Street for a brief period, circa 1999. Nothing but old systems and games. Hardly any mention of it online, I'd be convinced I'd dreamt it if I didn't have games from there.

[peteprodge]

23 hours ago, Bluejam said:

Wonder if Pete approves of doxxing threats

 

Nope. Some of the leaks - which must have come from very authoritative sources - during the Vega+ scandal (and I'm referring to both sides) were disgusting.

 

23 hours ago, Bluejam said:

and Chinnyvision comparing Paul Andrews to an egg all over twitter.

 

I don't endorse attacks based on personal appearance, but it led to this note-perfect piece of satire.

 

 

23 hours ago, Bluejam said:

 

I saw that Vega cutting cheese video. It was a good chance for Larry etc to really stick it to those people who have defrauded people  of 500k much in the style of his ‘Fact Hunt’ videos

 

Instead, look, it cuts cheese lolz!

 

Don't go looking at back issues of Your Sinclair and Amiga Power. Sometimes they mess about and do jokes. It's really horrific.

 

 

23 hours ago, Bluejam said:

 

Next you’ll be attacking people with autism on twitter like RetroLaird.....

 

oh wait....

 

I don't attack RetroLaird (Kieren Hawken) for his autism.

 

I point out that he's a dubious fantasist whose word cannot be trusted because of the lies he's spouted.

 

Why would I want to attack him for his autism when I'm autistic myself? Why are you even bringing that up? Is this something he's told you to cite in here?

 

There are a lot of autistic retrogamers. Many are great. Some... aren't. Go bark up the right tree.

[Rex Grossman]

1 minute ago, peteprodge said:

Don't go looking at back issues of Your Sinclair and Amiga Power. Sometimes they mess about and do jokes. It's really horrific.

Wasn’t the issue less that it was focused on joking around and more that a golden opportunity to stand up for backers and give them some genuine insight was wasted on the lazy approach of terrible jokes?