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Been having a lot of internet problems at my flat these last few months but for the time being I can put them behind me so I've gotten into streaming again.
Been playing a variety of things from retro shumps to smash bros and more.
Currently playing a new game run of Three houses on Maddening difficulty. Hopefully I don't run into any more net issues so I can do thsi for the liong run/

/radirgyfgc is my twitch handle. Would post a link but embedding seems to be not working.

 

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On 22/05/2020 at 13:07, Luseth said:

Having just started streaming yesterday, you guys got any tips for it? I ask because I do have a goal in mind to work towards as I would like to turn it into something that I can use to bring in extra income that I can donate to a charity close to my heart.

 

I am by no means an expert, but there are tips in the Achievements tab of the Twitch creators dashboard. They have gamified the process so that you can steadily build a following and start earning directly on the platform. As of today, you need to meet the following requirements over a 30 day period before you can start earning cash via Twitch:

  • 50 Followers
  • Stream for 8 hours
  • Stream on 7 different days
  • Have an average of 3 viewers

 

And so if you want to accept donations, I'd make sure to add links to your PayPal, Bitcoin addresses, etc. in your About section somewhere.

 

From what I hear from partnered streamers, the key is to make sure you have a half-decent cam and mic,  broadcast at a regular time slot and interact with viewers of your stream. And patience. There is apparently a lot of time that you might end up talking to yourself.

 

All the people with the fanciest animations, overlays and crap on their stream seem to use StreamLabs OBS, which is the free and open source Open Broadcaster Software with a bunch of customisation thrown on top. There's also Twitch Studio if you like your first-party offerings.

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Not sure on the ins and outs of it but a Twitter account @watchbrime recently teased about a new streaming platform to rival Twitch/mixer, rumoured to be started by some top streamers like Dr Disrespect. Cue me having watchbrime.com open in a tab to try to reserve my username, although the Twitter account insisted it was just a code amen and it wouldn’t be called BRIME.

Anyway, just randomly checked the tab - it was previously a default parked domain page - and whoever registered it has now put a message on saying he managed to get the domain and if there was any serious thought or effort being put into this new streaming platform, they’d have planned ahead further than just a Twitter account. :lol:

It’s here: https://watchbrime.com/

OK, Let's have a chat.



First things first, this page/domain was not set up by whomever set up @WatchBrime on Twitter. I have nothing to do with that.
But I'd like to talk about how we got here. Forgive me, this is long but I hope it is insightful.

It is quite funny actually because I was asked if it was possible to set up a new streaming service shortly after the Mixer shutdown announcement and after initially brushing it off as crazy, I actually gave it some serious thought.

After all, I can code and set up infrastructure. 
Money though is another story. This is not like starting up a blog or something - it is not cheap to build something like a streaming platform.

What about investors and funding? Well, it is difficult to market this to investors since if Microsoft, a company that in my opinion is OK with losing a bit of money on something to remain in the market - pulled the plug. That is a move that is going to frighten quite a lot of investors or potential backers, since no one wants to throw money at something unless there is some sort of chance of a return and if a company like Microsoft can walk away after all their investment, it does not really inspire confidence for others to jump into that market.

With all that in mind and ignoring all the obvious ways it could go wrong, could it theoretically take on Twitch (and Amazon)? I sincerely doubt it and I held no false illusions about that, I said so as much to those who asked or thought about starting an alternative. But the technical side interested me and that is what got me thinking about it and actually keen on building something (without announcing it though) to see if I could pull it off. An ingestion server, transcoding server/process and transmitting it out to many viewers with little to no latency.

That was as far as the idea got at that point and I was not intending on going further.

And it didn't.

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The next day, this "WatchBrime" Twitter account came out and I was told about it by others.


OK, cool! Someone was already giving it a go, I thought.

They sounded like they were way further along than my 'back of the napkin/do it for the experience' stage of my idea on how to do this and the timing was just strategic or highly coincidental. Strangely though, there was no information, the name appeared to be an amalgamation of WatchMixer and Amazon Prime, the details revealed were weird and gimmicky at best and it really looked like some sort of piss-take.

Yet people were taking it seriously.

That led me into doing some simple whois checks. Trying to dig information up because if it was legit than surely they registered relevant domains?
I noticed none of the domains I would have registered if it was me (or anyone with a percentage of seriousness about starting this up), like "watchBrime.com" or variants with TLDs like .live or .tv, were taken.

It's odd because it's really something you would register way ahead of time to prevent exactly what I did here, codename or otherwise and at the very least, before you even mention any name publicly.

I said this to a few people who kept talking about "Brime" and how they really hoped they would pull it off and surprise everyone. 
None of what I saw added up to this and to say anything more against it was considered negative or pessismistic by others.

So I bought watchBrime.com and parked it. Domains are not really that expensive. 
I did so more to prove a point, that it was not real. I would not have paid the money required for a .tv or .live (they can be a lot more expensive than a .com) but now, I can see others did.

Then something weird happened.

People were tweeting as if they got into some special 'partner program' and even mentioned URLs of *this* domain that did not exist or ever existed.
What the hell? Were people *still* talking about this? Some even started drawing lines between a popular Twitch streamer being banned and *this*.

Then some news websites, reddit, twitter, talking about this domain among the others.

I couldn't believe it. None of it was making any sense to me.

Well, may as well put something up I thought to myself.
If people would generate theories with close to nothing, then what would happen If I added an image to a page? 
I published the page and whacked on some analytics to see real world impact, and then watched as this thing just exploded.

Then the regret kicked in.

So, I apologise to those that had hope about this thing as a result of this web page. If it's any consolation, I have been inspired to tinker away on the idea I mentioned earlier as a form of penance and also becaue I really am interested on a technical level but I wouldn't start holding my breath to be a user of that any time soon, nor should you expect any Twitter accounts or other forms of 'teasers', it's just not how real people interested in building something kick off.

In closing, I honestly believe this whole thing started with just a couple of streamers that got together and started spitballing an idea around and the furthest they got was a twitter account. They did not actually have any capacity to execute or follow through on their `snowball's chance in hell` dream and were very likely way out of their depth and it would not have gone further any other day of the week, but the internet did what the internet does. The coincidence and timing of certain events certainly did not help.

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I think redirecting to a Rick Roll-style video or other form of 'gotcha' may have been easier than writing all this up, but I think it's important we understand how we got here.

We started with a weird Twitter account, and then it just snowballed into this mess with people filling in the blanks. Some well meaning, some not so.

If I had not registered this domain, someone else would have.
Would whoever had registered it have tried to get email addresses, etc? I don't know.

But, I am responsible for somewhat wasting your time with this page and/or possibly giving you false hope and I wanted to apologise for that.

I sincerely hope the above was if anything, educational or at the very least - interesting.

Fun and games.

Although there is supposedly another new one in the works called Compose, which is on Twitter too @WatchCompose. Who knows though.

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DrDisrespect, Ninja and Shroud would all break recent multi-million dollar contracts with their respective platformers to start a new, unproven streaming service in which they have no experience and would cost them millions - millions they'd just defaulted on. Sounds very likely and not at all a little story made up by online teenagers. :wacko:  No idea if Brime is a real thing or not, but come on. 

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On 01/07/2020 at 00:39, BlackHoodedCrow said:

From what I hear from partnered streamers, the key is to make sure you have a half-decent cam and mic,  broadcast at a regular time slot and interact with viewers of your stream. And patience. There is apparently a lot of time that you might end up talking to yourself.

 

I started off great and was averaging 10-14 viewers per stream this time last year. Work got in the way, but now I'm back to it after finding the mood to play anything for the first time this year.

 

I'm in the 0-2 viewers camp now. It's hard work, and yeah, lots of talking to yourself. Hilariously (or just plain sad) I'm semi-roleplaying a Skyrim run with a whole batch of realism/immersion/survival mods, so I'll do things like sit down to eat, drink or pray at regular intervals.

 

I've got my desk all set up correctly for the first time, which feels great.

 

I'll update the first post at some point. Sorry!

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I don't venture into Online much, so I've only just found this thread and have been reading with interest.

 

I tried Twitch for the first time a year or so back and did it infrequently while I was learning the ropes, with huge gaps in-between streams sometimes. Since March I've been streaming almost every night and I've managed to build up a small but very loyal following. I'm at just under 100 followers but I've been lucky enough to find a small number of incredibly supportive people, which has encouraged me hugely and given me the motivation to keep at it regularly. My average viewers per stream in July so far is sitting at 12, so we're not talking massive numbers but already I've had a couple of people drop multiple gift subscriptions during my streams, which is ludicrous but absolutely a huge bonus.

 

I think the bit @BlackHoodedCrow mentioned that is key is interacting well with your viewers. I think that's something I'm reasonably good at so far, but I'm learning every day. Regular time slot is also a good shout. Although my exact start time differs from day-to-day, I'm always streaming roughly at the same time (late night UK time).

 

I don't have a camera yet. I'm just streaming directly from the PS4 so far, but the plan is to eventually get a decent PC and camera if I continue to grow the channel.

 

I think I'm following some of you already but I'm going to go back check the thread in case I'm missing anybody. I'll look forward to checking out your streams. I'm at twitch.tv/playingcatchup

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I'm live right now, too. Just gone down to concoct a big glass of absinthe prior to tackling a bandit cave. Character was left in prayer on top of a lookout tower facing Whiterun.

 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Just joined the stream crowd but on the creative side (which I'm ok at), rather than game playing (which I suck at).

 

The past few weeks have been about playtesting it, camera angles and shortcuts and so on, and August will be about making a 3d printed version of the dragon drawing. Dont know of I'll keep on after Sept, I've got a number of followers in my mind (fairly low but also not 2, which is as far as I've got so far) but it's relaxing and fun to do so far at least. 

 

If anyone's got any suggestions for improvement I'm all ears though :) still learning loads and making mistakes. 

 

/Kercal incidentally. Which, sigh, is the first mistake but can't change it now :)

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In what is probably the least professional stream.. I finally got going. I did a test stream today playing some Embr. Would love some feedback. 

 

Linky

 

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Edit: Youtube Version
 

 

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2 hours ago, Rob Rule said:

Good mic and camera quality for a test stream. I do think your co-host might be essential.

 

Seems to be the general consensus with her so far. 

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On 30/07/2020 at 21:14, bradigor said:

She'll be on from Mondays moving forward. Set up a bit of a schedule to get into a habit, if anyone fancies following the channel. 

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CHANNEL LINK 

 

 

Dude this is too much and a terrible idea. Are you just going to stream all weekend long? What about your family and health? If you want people to return you need to stream at the same time on days that you do so, nobody will pay attention to a schedule like this. Consistency is key, and don't fall into the 'always be streaming' trap. Also, casual reminder that you are not going to make any money beyond pocket change from this even if you dedicate more time to it than a full time job.

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5 minutes ago, Haribokart said:

Dude this is too much and a terrible idea. Are you just going to stream all weekend long? What about your family and health? If you want people to return need to stream at the same time on days that you do so, nobody will pay attention to a schedule like this.

 

Noooo

Monday - about an hour
Tuesday - about an hour
Weds - Nothing
Thurs - 1-2 hours
Friday - about an hours
Weekends - Something at any time in that period. Probably an hour or two if time allows. Due to most weekends spent out with the family in some fashion. Not even sure weekend streams will happen at all, or that regular. 


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2 minutes ago, bradigor said:

 

Noooo

Monday - about an hour
Tuesday - about an hour
Weds - Nothing
Thurs - 1-2 hours
Friday - about an hours
Weekends - Something at any time in that period. Probably an hour or two if time allows. 


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Okay good, I was worried for a second there. You'd be shocked at how many people do that. Would strongly suggest trying to have a consistent stream time if you want regulars or to retain viewers. Good luck!

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