GAME

[isogashii]

Someone who works at Zoonami? Sign my face!!!!!!!1111111111111111oneoneone

I used to work there, so I'm a nobody now. I had to quit, as I took issue with the special mind-control games (with accompanying peripherals) they were developing for Nintendo. They’re going to subliminally take control of the next generation of kids and rule the world.

[Alex W.]

I've yet to have a problem with a PS2 on its side scratching disks. If you sell someone a PS2 that does, they deserve a refund, whether it's Sony's fault or yours (it's the shop's duty under the Sale of Goods Act to replace faulty goods, and then seek a refund from the manufacturer).

[JPickford (retired mod)]

I used to work there, so I'm a nobody now. I had to quit, as I took issue with the special mind-control games (with accompanying peripherals) they were developing for Nintendo. They’re going to subliminally take control of the next generation of kids and rule the world.

I've had a go on one of those. My mate works there.

[DJ Sack]

I've yet to have a problem with a PS2 on its side scratching disks. If you sell someone a PS2 that does, they deserve a refund, whether it's Sony's fault or yours (it's the shop's duty under the Sale of Goods Act to replace faulty goods, and then seek a refund from the manufacturer).

hatscrret, but the fault im describing is akain to you getting a car, putting the steering lock on, then accelerating and then crashing into a wall on the other side of the road, or picking up your cd player and shaking it again. Its a design fault (or as sony will probably call it, a feature), basically the laser is not stuck it can move up and down slightly, as any one with a psone knows when they have seen the laser move. What happens is when the ps2 is on end and the disc is spinning is causes the unit to move if it isnt a solid surface, especially as the drive moto is at the top of the unit causing the most wobble. This can then cause the laser to hit the underside of the disc and cause a thick deep circular scratch, its not like normal use scratches its a perfect deep circle, which even a disc dr cannot fix.

[Willei]

That sounds like bullshit. Surely that'd cause major damage to your lens? And why would Disc Doctor not fix it? Does it detect a cyclical scratch and then decide not to bother filling it?

And I think you'll find that the lens has to move in order for it to focus. This happens on every lens I've seen, so it's hardly Sony's fault, aside from the probability that the PS2s in question are faulty.

And also, you can start a car engine with the steering lock engaged, or vice versa

[DJ Sack]

It does also cause damage to the lens yes, and a disc dr cannot fix it as the scrach is deep, its not a light one, you can feel the difference in layers with your finger because it cuts into it. And ye the lens does have to move, but if you hit the ps2 or it vibrates it'll move further than it should do as its a 'floating' design allowing it to focus, and thus the discs goes towards the lens, and the lens goes towards the discs causing the a giant scratch.

And it is sony faults, because that was how it was designed, if you want more info do a google search for hundreds more explanations identical to mine. It is a desin fault and only happens when the ps2 is in a vertical position on an uneven surface or gets knocked.

[Willei]

For the record: Did a couple of Google searches, came up with nothing. If I found anything though, most of it would have been from Xbox or 'Cube fanboys.

Surely a simple remedy would be not to knock it? I can't see how this would happen to the extent required to cause the error, but not do permanant damage, unless you have your PS2 set up on a washer/drier. This could just as easilly happen on an Xbox if knocked though, so it certainly isn't inherent to the PS2. I guess the GC is less voulnerable, since the smaller discs are much less prone to disc balancing (which is what the problem really is) issues.

[Alex W.]

I still don't see how the lady could've caused this damage herself. There's a history of older PS2s having scummy lenses that adjust themselves until they're pressing against the disk in an attempt to see, subsequently scratching it, but that's both a geniune fault and something that probably couldn't have happened, unless it was an old PS2.

[Dimahoo]

I still don't see how the lady could've caused this damage herself. There's a history of older PS2s having scummy lenses that adjust themselves until they're pressing against the disk in an attempt to see, subsequently scratching it, but that's both a geniune fault and something that probably couldn't have happened, unless it was an old PS2.

Ahh. Bless the Poor old blind Sony lasers. You gotta love em.

[Alex W.]

You really do have to RTFM and keep those dust grilles cleared, otherwise the dust just goes inside and the poor wee lens can't see anything.