GAME

[Halonic]

Sack: If I remember him correctly, Jpickford is a respected developer with a vast amount of industry experience. His is the attitude of a businessman and a manager.

Yours is of a Temp or Tesco till boy

His attitude gets him money and keeps him employed as well as earning him the aforementioned respect that so many of in work crave.

Yours is best suited for a role in a call centre or as an estate agent

Drop it.

If he beats you round the head with another weighty concept again, I dont think you are getting up

[DJ Sack]

Just because you have worked in the games industry doesnt mean anything. And i find your post quiet offensive.

His attitude doesnt get him money or keep him employed, doing a good job at work does that no matter what your views are of the world.

But i'll say it again i do find your post very offensive and totally uncalled for.

[kamrantaz]

Sure, but politely informing them that you don't deal in such stuff is all you need to do.

How about if you were at E3 and some spotty nosed US teenager in a slipnot T shirt came upto you said that he wasnt going to buy your game because he's been playing a stolen bootleg copy of it for the past 3 weeks and then laughed in your face as if you were some kind of sucka?

[Halonic]

But i'll say it again i do find your post very offensive and totally uncalled for.

You should try working for me, this was me being nice

[sega_kid]

erm, if your still after a bba then we have em in our gamestation.

[suzakuseven]

I've worked in an Indy and two Branches of GAME. When working in the Indy we had to deal with people akin to those on this forum. When working In GAME we delt with the general public, who just wanted to come in and buy a fun game to play. In all honesty I preffered serving people in GAME.

Note: At the Indy I worked at the manager LIED to customers. He sat there and bare faced lied to them. Told them he could get them an import game next week, then again and again and again, every week. It was scam after scam at that place.

I do think there is a big difference between being misinformed and lying however. And using such a crass generalisation as 'GAME employs liars' is unwarrented.

[Guest Penguin_Lad]

His attitude doesnt get him money or keep him employed, doing a good job at work does that no matter what your views are of the world.

I think these two often go hand in hand. People respect a good attitude, often because it shows in your work.

[JPickford (retired mod)]

How about if you were at E3 and some spotty nosed US teenager in a slipnot T shirt came upto you said that he wasnt going to buy your game because he's been playing a stolen bootleg copy of it for the past 3 weeks and then laughed in your face as if you were some kind of sucka?

What about it?

Are you trying to say I would lecture him about the evils of piracy?

I'd say 'Good for you' and remove myself from his company at the earliest opportunity.

[JPickford (retired mod)]

I think these two often go hand in hand. People respect a good attitude, often because it shows in your work.

Agreed.

[DJ Sack]

Im not to sure, many bosses in companies are not respected by their employee's mainly because they are the boss man but sometimes for other reasons, yet companies can still be successful even if people are not respected. thats not to say thats the case for everyone though.

[Jim Miles]

Im not to sure, many bosses in companies are not respected by their employee's mainly because they are the boss man but sometimes for other reasons

I think there's an element of truth to that. Although no doubt tongue in cheek, Halonic's comment makes me think his staff may not like him! (I wouldn't like being talked rudely to by a boss, and the good ones I have had were all polite).

suzakuseven, do you live in Cambridge and used to work at Gametron? I bet you did! haha.

[Halonic]

I think there's an element of truth to that. Although no doubt tongue in cheek, Halonic's comment makes me think his staff may not like him! (I wouldn't like being talked rudely to by a boss, and the good ones I have had were all polite).

Tongue in cheek? more like biting my tongue. Work and responsibility hasnt made me a "nice person". It has made me honest.

As for rudeness? Being liked by my staff? I'll leave my response to your imagination

No no, darker then that

[shynra]

Scenareo 1 mid2004

Me: do you have any of thoes GCN Keyboreds?

Game: There has NEVER been any keybords released at all!!!!! (very rudely)

Me: walks of to HMV and buy a datel powerbord

Scenareo 2 dec 2004

Me: Do you have Breath Of Fire 4 for the PSX?

Game: Breath of fire came out YEARS ago you cant get it anymore at all (prodly)

Me: walks of to other indipendent game store and buy a Pc version

"not as bad but heck... commen sence they had like 12 copies of BoF 1 and 2 for the GBA and they had the pc version of 4 (which i just refused to buy from them beacuse of there rudeness) highly unhelpful"

Scenareo 3 Early 2003

Me: do you have PSO for the GCN ? (on the day of it release)

Game: You what??!!

Me: walks of to game across the road and gets there last/only copy they got in

Scenareo 4 - now present day

Me: Walks in and find everthing on my own and never talk to the guys unless i know them or need to (which is rarely)

[Ed-E]

When I was doing my stint as a receptionist, often I got bothered by people ringing up and saying "Oh, do you know if the offices are open on suchandsuchaday?". Rather than just bullshit and say "YEAH!" or "NO!", I'd say I didn't know, apologise, and then use the other phone to ring the other receptionist to find out.

I know that the stress levels of the job aren't comparible but that's irrelevant - they are both jobs where your main aim is to serve people, and if you won't, then you're doing the job badly. There are other people who would rather have that job so it's just being selfish as well.

[Jacopo]

Scenareo 1 mid2004

Me: do you have any of thoes GCN Keyboreds?

Game: There has NEVER been any keybords released at all!!!!! (very rudely)

Me: walks of to HMV and buy a datel powerbord

Scenareo 2 dec 2004

Me: Do you have Breath Of Fire 4 for the PSX?

Game: Breath of fire came out YEARS ago you cant get it anymore at all (prodly)

Me: walks of to other indipendent game store and buy a Pc version

"not as bad but heck... commen sence they had like 12 copies of BoF 1 and 2 for the GBA and they had the pc version of 4 (which i just refused to buy from them beacuse of there rudeness) highly unhelpful"

Scenareo 3 Early 2003

Me: do you have PSO for the GCN ? (on the day of it release)

Game: You what??!!

Me: walks of to game across the road and gets there last/only copy they got in

Scenareo 4 - now present day

Me: Walks in and find everthing on my own and never talk to the guys unless i know them or need to (which is rarely)

Do you still go in?

[Jim Miles]

Tongue in cheek? more like biting my tongue. Work and responsibility hasnt made me a "nice person". It has made me honest.

As for rudeness? Being liked by my staff? I'll leave my response to your imagination.

Hehe, well I suppose there are a lot of jobs where honesty is more important than and mutually exclusive with tact.

[shynra]

Do you still go in?

I do actully... but that because that two of my friends work in the local one (one of them has vast VG knowlage, the other not so) i just normally go in to chat to them really...

[Monkichi 2.0]

Scenareo 1 mid2004

Me: do you have any of thoes GCN Keyboreds?

Game: There has NEVER been any keybords released at all!!!!! (very rudely)

Me: walks of to HMV and buy a datel powerbord

Scenareo 2 dec 2004

Me: Do you have Breath Of Fire 4 for the PSX?

Game: Breath of fire came out YEARS ago you cant get it anymore at all (prodly)

Me: walks of to other indipendent game store and buy a Pc version

"not as bad but heck... commen sence they had like 12 copies of BoF 1 and 2 for the GBA and they had the pc version of 4 (which i just refused to buy from them beacuse of there rudeness) highly unhelpful"

Scenareo 3 Early 2003

Me: do you have PSO for the GCN ? (on the day of it release)

Game: You what??!!

Me: walks of to game across the road and gets there last/only copy they got in

Scenareo 4 - now present day

Me: Walks in and find everthing on my own and never talk to the guys unless i know them or need to (which is rarely)

Another scenario:

Shynra - Do you have the new spellchecker software?

GAME - Yeah, it's in the back there.

Shynra - Oh damn, I forgot my card, I'll get it tomorrow.

[SeanR]

Scenareo 3 Early 2003

Me: do you have PSO for the GCN ? (on the day of it release)

Game: You what??!!

"Phantasy Star Online for Nintento Gamecube"

I'm thinking the abbreviations probably didn't help here...

[Haribokart]

When people come into my shop I don't offer my opinion on something unless they ask. If they want something I will look for it (or probably know if we have it anyway). Being biased does not work because you are bound to wind somebody up. It is no secret that I am not a huge fan of the Gamecube, but if somebody asks if we have Gamecube's I do not say 'that is shitttox' or anything, the only time I give my opinion is if somebody asks for it (eg: Do you think Super mario Sunshine is any good? Me: Not really, but then it is not my type of game. It is very popular and has got good scores, depends what type of games you like etc etc).

I don't mind giving up my time talking to people because at the end of the day, what else is there to do in the wacky world of retail?! I do however CONSTANTLY have to tell off my staff for their stupid behaviour and blatant fanboyisms

[Guest Penguin_Lad]

When people come into my shop I don't offer my opinion on something unless they ask. If they want something I will look for it (or probably know if we have it anyway). Being biased does not work because you are bound to wind somebody up. It is no secret that I am not a huge fan of the Gamecube, but if somebody asks if we have Gamecube's I do not say 'that is shitttox' or anything, the only time I give my opinion is if somebody asks for it (eg: Do you think Super mario Sunshine is any good? Me: Not really, but then it is not my type of game. It is very popular and has got good scores, depends what type of games you like etc etc).

I don't mind giving up my time talking to people because at the end of the day, what else is there to do in the wacky world of retail?! I do however CONSTANTLY have to tell off my staff for their stupid behaviour and blatant fanboyisms

You also have to watch for them stealing

[dam_aks]

Yes.

If I cleaned the streets I would give a shit.  If you take a job on then you should do that job to the best of your ability.

And I HAVE worked in a computer game shop (20 years ago!).  And I didn't feel the need to lie, contradict or insult customers.

If you were working in GAME five days a week for £5 an hour, I think your opinion would be very different.

I also doubt that the game shop you worked in 20 years ago has any resemblance to the Game stores of today...

I would never ever want to work in a shop like Game. If you can't enjoy what you do, then you shouldn't do it. As I wouldn't enjoy the job, I would never work to the best of my ability. Not that working in retial requires much of that.

[squirtle]

Yours is best suited for a role in a call centre...

Guess where I work? All staff at Game are liars. All people who work in Call Centres don't care, yadda yadda yadda.

Don't you just love unfounded assumptions.

I'm with JPickford in this little debate. We do have the advantage when we go into Game because we are already fairly knowledgable about what they sell. Any ignorance or tom foolery is not looked on favourably. The general public, however, are not so clued up on the ins and outs of the videogame world. And so, the truth must be given to them. And if the assistant doesn't know, then they should say so and go find out.

As for staff in Game, I've usually found them ok. I remember before the Xbox and Cube were released over here but I had already picked up a Jap import one. I was stood in game watching one of the videos on the big screen of all the GC games. An assistant asked me if I would be getting one. I replied I already had one but was interested in the PAL release. We then had a good 20 minute chat about it and he seemed genuinely interested in my opinions as already had one. So fair play, he had no pretensions and took on board what I thought etc etc. Not all Game staff are idiots.

[JPickford (retired mod)]

If you were working in GAME five days a week for £5 an hour, I think your opinion would be very different.

I also doubt that the game shop you worked in 20 years ago has any resemblance to the Game stores of today...

I would never ever want to work in a shop like Game. If you can't enjoy what you do, then you shouldn't do it. As I wouldn't enjoy the job, I would never work to the best of my ability. Not that working in retial requires much of that.

My opinion would NOT be different. I don't see how you can say that.

I believe that if you agree to do a job then you should do it to the best of your ability. Anything else is dishonest.

It's also FAR more enjoyable to do something well.

You have no idea what the shop I worked in was like and NO BASIS for your speculation.

[dam_aks]

My opinion would NOT be different. I don't see how you can say that.

I believe that if you agree to do a job then you should do it to the best of your ability. Anything else is dishonest.

It's also FAR more enjoyable to do something well.

You have no idea what the shop I worked in was like and NO BASIS for your speculation.

The industry has changed a lot in twenty years - you know that.

Retial has also changed.

I can see your standpoint on work ethic - but very few teenagers think the way you do.

I do not see how you can possibly think that working in retail now is the same as 20 years ago.

[dam_aks]

You also get paid £5 an hour to do the job well.

You get paid £5 an hour to do the job adequately.

[Jack]

Turns out I don't need to buy one now. My mate managed to get one from GameStation. Interestingly enough, I've never had any problems in there apart from this kid who asked me to buy MGS2: Substance for him, because he wasn't old enough. In front of the counter.

[Laine]

I didn't enjoy working in GAME very much, but I worked damn hard.

ALWAYS with a smile, ALWAYS doing the best for the customer, ALWAYS being polite, helpful and generally fabulous. ALWAYS.

I don't care if you only earn £5 an hour (I was on less than that) or you don't like it, you have to have respect for the job and yourself.

If you walk around all day with a face like a smacked arse and not giving a damn, you'll make it worse for yourself.

If your day is going crappy, just do something about it.

Make yourself care, and be proud of your work.

[Uncle Mike]

I do not see how you can possibly think that working in retail now is the same as 20 years ago.

Bollocks. A shop's a shop's a shop.

You earn your money, you do the job.

[JPickford (retired mod)]

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I do not see how you can possibly think that working in retail now is the same as 20 years ago.

I didn't actually say it was that same I said you have no basis for your speculation; and you don't.

But, to go along with your argument; Shops were invented ages ago. I can't see any difference. I have eyes in my head I can see what the staff do and and how they operate. As far as I can see, 'retail' or 'working in a shop' (as we used to call it) is exactly the same job now as it was in 1984.