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20 hours ago, spork said:

 

That doesn't actually combat the issue we have at the moment though. If they say a forward can be 10cm ahead of the defender, then we will be measuring to see if they are 10.1cm ahead which would then presumably be called offside. 

 

They need to change the offside rule somewhat from it's current place to something that can actually be quickly and efficiently used with VAR.

 

Just change it to the eyeball system - if you can't clearly state someone's offside when looking at the available angles at the rough moment of the pass, then they're not offside.

 

The offside rule's origins predate the sport, but it exists to encourage teams to not simply hoof the ball to goal-hanging forwards. It allows defenders to move up and contribute to an attacking play rather than be spread across the length of the pitch. The precision sought by VAR at the moment doesn't do anything to enhance what we had before, it only serves to frustrate, and as you say the introduction of a set leeway distance just moves the problem 10 cm forward.

 

Looking at the images and using human judgement means players won't be ruled offside for marginal cases, while also allowing VAR to remove the clear issues that sometimes crop up when making the decision in real time from the sidelines.

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Adding rule based 'confusion' with an 'eyeball test' isn't the way to clear it up and get consistency, it will just encourage a new set of different moaning.

 

 

 

 

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There will always be moaning in any situation where you hold players to a level of positioning accuracy that they're incapable of. Comparisons to ice hockey don't hold up - that's a fixed line, not a moving target.

 

The present situation is worse than what we had without VAR. Let the fans moan if they concede a goal they're adamant was offside. They've been doing it for over a hundred years, they're not going to stop now, and if you can't actually tell from several angles in the VAR booth, they're most likely just exhibiting their usual bias.

 

Drawing lines and all that bullshit they do now treats a 2D image as a 3D one, and is therefore essentially making shit up.

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Just now, Gotters said:

I like VAR calling those cheating pen encroachments like that. 

 

The City player encroached first. That should be taken into account.

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Just now, Gotters said:

What is the law on double encroachment if both in box ? Do they cancel out ?

Coady cleared the ball so I understand it to be fair. 
 

feels harsh though. Sterling has missed three pens against Rui now this season. 

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3 minutes ago, Adrock said:

 

The City player encroached first. That should be taken into account.

The wolves player who encroached was literally the player who cleared it though. 

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1 minute ago, Gotters said:

From the FA site

 

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That's interesting, is it the first offence they go on? I thought the attacking player encroached first but I could be wrong.

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Here we go, both encroach should be a retake

 

a player of both teams infringes the Laws of the Game, the kick is retaken unless a player commits a more serious offence (e.g. illegal feinting);

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