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thesnwmn

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Fantastic. Utterly gripped.

 

Agreed about the resolution on Pathfinder being a little contrived in terms of lack of talking. Which is one of my bug bears of many shows and films. Tension and mystery built through complete lack of communication isn’t really interesting to me. It’s simply frustrating.

 

What I appreciate most about the show I think is the way it doesn’t cliff hanger season ends. Tell the stories of a series. Trust that good stories carry the viewer and leaving them for a year with some massive hook isn’t necessary.

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Agree that the Pathfinder versus Burran standoff was one of the weaker points of the episode, and possibly the season – it made short-term dramatic tension at the expense of coherence logical sense.

 

Predictions for season 3? It seems almost certain that the USSR will still be around in this timeline’s 1995, so I’m wondering if the first people on Mars will be NASA, Soviet or astronauts from the private spaceflight company which has already been foreshadowed.

 

 

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thesnwmn

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I think I’d like to see the Russia vs US race take a little bit of a back seat for at least some of the next series.

 

And going to be interesting to see if/how they tackle the journey times and transmission delays. I suspect the later to be used to provide at least some of the tension. The journey times mean this series’ frequent and quick launches to the moon to tell the story of militarisation don’t really work unless they’re prepared to have longer jumps in time during the series which might make telling some of the home based drama a bit trickier.

 

It also feels like an opportunity to start to transition to a focus on newer astronauts. So far we’ve spent little time focused on anyone in a space suit who wasn’t in series 1. But surely they’ll all be a bit old to be on the first Mars missions.

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Absolute trash. Boring. Bad. Tropes so old and tired they were parodied in Blazing Saddles. Sample line of dialogue. “Forget for a moment just how nonsensical it is to have nuclear weapons on the moon at all...” Sadly most of the actors were quite bad too. Gordo in particular, gurning as he has to put his helmet on again. Mrs Baldwin was the only halfway decent one, once again in the meaty role of “wife”. They’ve spent a lot of money on it. Good people on it, Spielberg’s second unit guy, one of the main Sopranos directors, The Last Seduction guy, a Better Call Saul director, the Wall E / Toy Story / John Carter guy. Battlestar Galactica showrunner. I’m quite cross that it was supposed to be good and I’ve wasted my time on it. I’m also cross the Apple TV apps are bad at remembering which episodes I’ve seen. I’m even more cross I’ll probably end up watching S3 because I’m a stupid sucker for Apollo who deserves everything he gets. 

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I thought it was Mega.

 

Slight niggles for me were the Aleida actor in season 2 was a little stilted and didn't really portray rebellious early twenty-something very well. I also couldn't get on with the new young astronauts, they were a bit Big Bang Theory for me, especially after 10 episodes of the prim and proper NASA guys and gals during the early days of the space program. 

 

I also had to skip the scenes with Mrs Baldwin towards the end of second season... I really couldn't see a reason for that to occur twice! (Other than to get Ed to drop.the ball)

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It’s always been a bit lumpy across episodes. More so in the first season. Second season has been on the whole great.

 

I LOVE that a space show is getting megabucks spent on it. And it’s not deep space future mission starts > something goes wrong > against the odds to overcome OR shitty horror / aliens insert whatever here. I am so bored of that. 

 

The attention to detail in this, the world you know but it different. Moving through eras to keep it fresh. It’s a great idea. I’m just amazed it actually happened.

 

I’d do 2 more series. 90’s, and early 2000’s and then call it a day. Once you don’t have the cultural references of that period to fall back on I think it would be less interesting. 

 

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As for the finale, as soon as Gordo started becoming likeable it was inevitable he was going to get offed. Bringing both of them to the station was roll eyes but after that I couldn’t help rooting for them both and was genuinely sad throughout their final scenes. Both actors did a great job in the end.

 

Weirdly and almost hardly linked at all but it made me think of Space Above and Beyond and desperation of the final episode. I was pretty sure they were going to kill off Ed too!

 

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Mogster

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I'm about six episodes into season one at the moment and I'm absolutely loving it. I'm a sucker for space to start with, and it does that stuff really well, but I think it's been a really good drama on top of all that.

 

I appreciated what I assume was a Battlestar reference with the whole 

 

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rolling the hard 6 thing. :D

 

 

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Eighthours

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There is a 7 season plan for the show, according to Ron Moore. Sorry, @mexos!

 

The biggest impediment to the future quality of the show is Ron Moore leaving Sony Television for a new megabucks deal with 20th TV. He won’t be involved in the day to day on FAM anymore. Then again, the other showrunners - Ben Nedivi and Matt Wolpert - seem like really good writers too. They wrote the S2 finale, for example, and were on Fargo’s early seasons.

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1 hour ago, davidcotton said:

Stopped watching this with three episodes of season 2 to go.  Worth ittokeep going?

 

It really is. The final episode is terrific, and the whole thing builds to a very satisfying conclusion whilst folding in a lot of the background elements we've seen throughout the season.

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8 hours ago, Eighthours said:

There is a 7 season plan for the show, according to Ron Moore. Sorry, @mexos!

 


Really?


I love it but that seems like a stretch. S3 will be the first Mars landing and then jump to an established colony in S4, possibly with the Chinese or other nations joining in but where do they go from there?

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1 hour ago, Vespa Alex said:


Really?


I love it but that seems like a stretch. S3 will be the first Mars landing and then jump to an established colony in S4, possibly with the Chinese or other nations joining in but where do they go from there?


I think the plan is to jump a decade at a time per season, and end the show in a near future time period.

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monkeydog

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Really enjoyed this.

 

The o ring problem  was annoying

 

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As Buran uses liquid fuel boosters. It wasn't a copy of the Shuttle in that regard.

 

But it isn't our timeline so who knows what happened in its development.

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We started this recently. Halfway into season 2 now.

 

It really depresses me though because I cannot stop thinking about what could have been. Man hasn’t walked in the moon in my lifetime and I really wished the space programme had continued. I just think about what could have been. 

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Mogster

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I finished season 2 yesterday, having watched the whole lot in a few weeks, and can only agree about the quality of the last couple of episodes.

 

I do like how the show manages to make space exploration feel inspirational despite its Cold War setting, even if it does get a bit melodramatic in the process. It's also a really original idea for a sci-fi show after so many space operas.

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12 hours ago, Mogster said:

It's also a really original idea for a sci-fi show after so many space operas

That really made me go "what space operas?".  I suppose there plenty of series that counts under the subgenre, including the recent Star Treks, but they're all so shit, except The Expanse.

 

I do wonder how they'll manage to weave actual events into the 90's and 2000's.  The cold war ended and turned into Iraq and then the war on terror. Do they go there or keep playing out a cold war that doesn't end? If they have a fifth season do they make China the cold war part II?

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Mogster

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38 minutes ago, monkeydog said:

That really made me go "what space operas?".  I suppose there plenty of series that counts under the subgenre, including the recent Star Treks, but they're all so shit, except The Expanse.

I didn't say they were all good space operas. ;)

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Boothjan

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I've just binge watched both seasons during my recovery from covid and I've enjoyed it.  However, I do think there is a significant drop off from season 1 to season 2.

 

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Some of the character plots are almost soap opera-esque in their nonsense.  The Karen/Danny thing was dreadful, really off putting and stupid.

 

FAM is best when they do the space-y stuff, and season 1 NAILS this, with the launchpad explosion (beautifully realised on screen IMO), Apollo 25 rescuing 24 and the subtle changes in history.  I think season 2 needed a few more moments like that, dispensing with the ludicrous character plots.

 

However, it definitely improved as the season went on and the finale in particular was gripping.

 

Looking forward to seeing the battle for Mars in season 3.  Hopefully it'll feature Bobbie Draper...

 

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Boothjan

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30 minutes ago, thesnwmn said:

It should definitely avoid leaning into too much of the personal drama. It's fine I think when used to create difficult mental situations for the main players but I don't really need the sitcom-esq relationships.

 

Yes, I agree

 

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Convoluted affair - unnecessary, whereas the way they depicted Molly and her husband's struggles with her glaucoma was far more relevant to their roles in the show.  Same with Ellen's battle to keep her sexuality hidden from her bosses.

 

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