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3 minutes ago, freezycold said:

Time isn’t a linear sequence of events. Viewed from a higher dimension it’s an object with a specific shape. Tony calculates a 3D representation of this higher dimensonal shape/object we see a diagram of. 

 

Thats how he knows what to do.

 

The Ancient One, Keeper of the TIME stone,  literally says its a linear sequence of events, she draws a line on the screen.

 

EDIT - I'm out, no point arguing over something daft. 

 

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3 minutes ago, freezycold said:

Time isn’t a linear sequence of events. Viewed from a higher dimension it’s an object with a specific shape. Tony calculates a 3D representation of this higher dimensonal shape/object we see a diagram of. 

 

Thats how he knows what to do.

 

Tony's diagram is how to execute time travel successfully, not a representation of time itself. The Ancient Ones wee powerpoint animation is what we have to refer to and based on that when Cap replaces the stones all the new timelines that are potentially different from the events that have already played in the MCU movies are erased.

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How Cap fixes things...

 

The Army base timeline, no biggies for cap to replace the power stone, Tony walks out with his Dad, Cap just drops it back into the box. Easy! (Why he would give it back to Hydra is another matter.) (Time back on Track!)

 

The New York timeline, he could drop off the timestone easy! the other two he couldnt really replace, they made too much of a mess in new york! (Time way off Track! Potential future movie?)

 

Asgard, hmmm injects it into Jane. Brutal! Also drops off the hammer. (Time back on track!)

 

Returning the stones to Morag and Vormir fuck knows how you do the latter, and again why because other big bads are looking for them, for Thanos even if they dont know he is dead yet. But I suppose a Universe without Thanos, that cant be bad! (Time off Track, but for the better! Or is it... dun dun dun.)

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21 minutes ago, freezycold said:

I think the ancient one is representing how we experience time.

 

The Gold / Yellow line that the Ancient one shows is essentially the MCU so yes it is how we as the viewer of the movies and the characters in the movies experience time. The dark line that she shows when she removes the time stone from her diagram is just one of the new timelines that is created. When she puts it back the dark line disappears. It's actually very simple and it feels like you are deliberately over complicating things when the movie literally shows how those timelines are impacted when Cap replaces the stones.

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What’s that comic book story where one of the space gods is all “we’re sick of Earth’s heroes messing about with the timeline, STOP IT”. Needs to happen in the films for all the Thanos SnapBack truthers who can’t let go. Nice way to shoehorn in some Galactus or Eternals action maybe.

 

Also, some more geekery nods that were cool:

-Captain Marvel giving War Machine the side eye

-Hydra Captain America

-Tony Stark leaving enough of himself via all those tapes that he could come back as an AI for new Iron Man

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3 minutes ago, Steely said:

How Cap fixes things...

 

The Army base timeline, no biggies for cap to replace the power stone, Tony walks out with his Dad, Cap just drops it back into the box. Easy! (Why he would give it back to Hydra is another matter.) (Time back on Track!)

 

The New York timeline, he could drop off the timestone easy! the other two he couldnt really replace, they made too much of a mess in new york! (Time way off Track! Potential future movie?)

 

Asgard, hmmm injects it into Jane. Brutal! Also drops off the hammer. (Time back on track!)

 

Returning the stones to Morag and Vormir fuck knows how you do the latter, and again why because other big bads are looking for them, for Thanos even if they dont know he is dead yet. But I suppose a Universe without Thanos, that cant be bad! (Time off Track, but for the better! Or is it... dun dun dun.)

 

Thanos isn't removed from 2014 from the perspective of the MCU. The Thanos that dies at the end of Endgame is from a disrupted, new timeline created when Rhodey and Nebula go back for the power stone so him and his army getting killed by Tony doesn't affect previous events from IW, etc.

 

The stones going back erases EVERY possible new timeline that is potentially created during Endgame, except the timeline that the escaped Loki is now in. 

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6 minutes ago, freezycold said:

The multiple timelines overcomplicates things. Tony sending Thanos back to 2014 repairs the complication.

 

There are no multiple timelines. They are all erased when Cap puts the stones back. If Thanos went back to 2014 after his experiences of Endgame and set about getting the power stones the way he does leading up to IW that would be completely incompetent, just as @And has articulated above.

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22 minutes ago, MardiganX said:

 

Thanos isn't removed from 2014 from the perspective of the MCU. The Thanos that dies at the end of Endgame is from a disrupted, new timeline created when Rhodey and Nebula go back for the power stone so him and his army getting killed by Tony doesn't affect previous events from IW, etc.

 

The stones going back erases EVERY possible new timeline that is potentially created during Endgame, except the timeline that the escaped Loki is now in. 

 

This, and 2024 Thanos is Dead because Thor chopped his head off and the Stones no longer exist, job done, world avenged.

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After the endgame fight in 2021 Thanos doesn’t know where all the stones are. He just knows that he has managed to gather them and do his snap. He goes back to 2014 with that knowledge. When he gets hold of the stones/gauntlet in 2021 he doesn’t know where they all necessarily came from.

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12 hours ago, linkster said:

This. She's currently the MCU equivalent of a loot crate. No doubt people will argue she's now the tentpole character and this was simply establishing her as top dog but that's to be seen. I groaned at the "I'll be gone for a while" but I was relieved the end went to the characters who deserved it most.

 

 

Oh boy did you see the interview, pretty frosty:

 

 

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7 minutes ago, freezycold said:

After the endgame fight in 2021 Thanos doesn’t know where all the stones are. He just knows that he has managed to gather them and do his snap. He goes back to 2014 with that knowledge. When he gets hold of the stones/gauntlet in 2021 he doesn’t know where they all necessarily came from.

 

Please stop. 

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13 minutes ago, freezycold said:

After the endgame fight in 2021 Thanos doesn’t know where all the stones are. He just knows that he has managed to gather them and do his snap. He goes back to 2014 with that knowledge. When he gets hold of the stones/gauntlet in 2021 he doesn’t know where they all necessarily came from.

 

He never goes back to 2014 - he gets dusted.

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Stop talking about time travel rules, and start talking about what proportion of Dr Strange's 14 million+ alternate endings went awry because the rat never reactivated the van's quantum tunneller. :quote:

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So why didn't Strange heal Tonies wounds? The time stone has been shown to be able to reverse time on organic matter before (the apple).

 

Thanos did for Vision too, he reversed time just on Vision, nothing around him.  He was able to pinpointed Vision and healed him, no one else around him were reversing back in time at the same point.

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Just now, Nick R said:

Stop talking about time travel rules, and start talking about what proportion of Dr Strange's 14 million+ alternate endings went awry because the rat never reactivated the van's quantum tunneller. :quote:

 

I guess if that rat (or its mum) had a 50% chance of surviving the snap in the first place then we can wipe out 7 million of those in one go!

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