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PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

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2 minutes ago, MansizeRooster said:

The base is ludicrously over-engineered.

 

I'm re-watching it with subtitles, but when I saw that the SSD was literally chips soldered to the motherboard, I thought, oh shit, there goes the hopes of upgradable storage.

 

At the beginning he shows the storage expansion options. 2:46

 

 

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The liquid metal TIM does make a decent difference - I have an intel i7 8700k that I had someone replace the thermal interface with liquid metal and that shit dropped 10-15 degrees on average (although the original TIM application was gargabe from intel) - the cooling is likely why it can clock so insanely high at over 2.2ghz

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As a second thought, they absolutely must be selling this thing at loss. I realise this is the case with the XSX as well, but the components in this look expensive. No wonder why Bloomberg said prices were being pushed up by the non-standard cooling solution.

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You won't be able to accuse them of having scrimped on cooling this time around. It's basically 75% cooling. And the user-installable storage socket being underneath the faceplates bodes well for anyone that wants them in black instead. I'll take giant and quiet.

 

And the dust collector holes, if they work, seem like a good idea.

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1 minute ago, MansizeRooster said:

Is there any chance that having a liquid component could constitute a huge fault risk?

 

Based on what? It's liquid metal but it has the same form that normal thermal interface would - ie the form of a paste that is applied. It's been used in the PC space for a good while

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1 minute ago, Phil said:

I like that they've engineered the base so that if you remove it, the mounting screw can be clipped into a recess and then sealed inside by twisting the base shut.

 

I couldn't help but laugh at that. It's thoughtful but crazy over-engineered for such a minor thing at the same time.

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1 minute ago, Majora said:

 

I couldn't help but laugh at that. It's thoughtful but crazy over-engineered for such a minor thing at the same time.

 

It's a very Japanese design idea. Especially the little plastic dot to fill the hole left by removing the screw.

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1 minute ago, hub2 said:

This might sound dumb, because i thought they were separate, but is that a custom CPU/GPU rather than two chips? Or have I missed something in the video? 

It is a single chip like the xbox series s/x - the die contains CPU cores and GPU compute units as well as other controllers

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2 minutes ago, Uzi said:

 

Based on what? It's liquid metal but it has the same form that normal thermal interface would - ie the form of a paste that is applied. It's been used in the PC space for a good while

If it's accepted tech then fair play. I've always just accepted the mantra that as soon as you add moving components to a system, you drastically reduce its lifespan. I suppose I just figured that adding liquid into the mix was another step in that direction.

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1 minute ago, MansizeRooster said:

PS4 also has a unified CPU/GPU on a chip.

 

Just now, Uzi said:

It is a single chip like the xbox series s/x - the die contains CPU cores and GPU compute units as well as other controllers

 

Thanks!

 

Also quite neat about the circuit board design was the radial placement of the memory. Don't know if there is a technical reason for that, but it looked quite elegant. 

 

Design is growing on me.

 

 

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Just now, MansizeRooster said:

If it's accepted tech then fair play. I've always just accepted the mantra that as soon as you add moving components to a system, you drastically reduce its lifespan. I suppose I just figured that adding liquid into the mix was another step in that direction.

 

The name "liquid metal" is a bit misleading - it is no more of a moving component really than normal thermal paste is (which is not a solid object) - once the pressure of a heatsink comes down it keeps the material in place. This provides more for who are curious

 

 

 

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